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wotfan

PostPosted: Tue Jun 21, 2005 10:38 am


I am asking this because I got pregnant around the same time as my friend we are very much alike in maturity and behavior. The only difference is i am succeeding and she is not. We both have boys we are both married. I got pregnant 4 months before she did, she waited till after her son was born to get married, I did not. She is a sweet person and she loves her son but she is not raising him. She sleeps, and her husband or roomate take care of the baby, She refuses to wean him off the bottle. He is a very whiny unhappy child begging for her attention all the time. I just dont understand why she is not succeeding. We are both stay at home parents and she still manages to ignore her son. It is bothersome and i worry about them. Does anyone have any ideas why this sort of thing happens, has anyone been in this situation, looking in on a family in turmoil?
What do you think is so different about us that is making one of us fail?
PostPosted: Tue Jun 21, 2005 11:41 am


I have a friend who is now 18, but had her baby in Jan of this year when she was still 18. She now has a 6 month old little boy, and is living with a "male roommate". She seems to be coping well enough, but I still feel sorry for her.

I don't know... your friend doesn't seem to be a very mature person, or a mature parent for that matter. Have you or her family or anyone else tried talking to her about it?
Maybe counselling or therapy would help her too. There has to be a reason why she's acting the way she is.

Nikolita
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Niarah Z`Ress

PostPosted: Tue Jun 21, 2005 12:27 pm


Perhaps you could encourage her to go to a parenting class by going with her to help convince her to go?
PostPosted: Tue Jun 21, 2005 12:57 pm


Even though she may say she doesn't, She could regret her son. Or suffer from post-partom depression. It happens more than people would like to think. She could also just be plain lazy and unmotivated. Maybe it is how her parents raised her? I agree with what both Nikolita and Niarah have said. Maybe she needs counsling or just maybe a good example to follow by?

Yi Min


wotfan

PostPosted: Tue Jun 21, 2005 1:35 pm


I'm afraid she is to far gone as a parent to be willing to take classes or counciling her son is 2 and a half i think his birthday is in october. I told her she should come visit some time soon so the boys can play but she didnt really give me an answer.
PostPosted: Tue Jun 21, 2005 9:16 pm


I think the way most parents parent is the way they were parented. So basically what were her parents like? That is really the only example she has so unless someone shows her another way then that is probably going to be the only way she knows. Maybe try finding a parenting book that you enjoy and passing it on to her or even just borrowing it from the library (then it's not charity which upsets some people) Unless the way things are going is actually bothering her though it's unlikely that she is going to have any motivation to change.

Chalda


Nikolita
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 21, 2005 10:07 pm


wotfan1983
I'm afraid she is to far gone as a parent to be willing to take classes or counciling her son is 2 and a half i think his birthday is in october. I told her she should come visit some time soon so the boys can play but she didnt really give me an answer.

It's never too late for counselling. My mom dragged my whole family in for counselling when I was in grade 9 (I'm going into my 2nd year of college now, in comparison).
And parenting classes, same thing. Her son is still young, she still has time to change her ways.

Her giving up and being unwilling to change won't solve anything.
PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 10:14 am


I know I have tried to help her out make friendly suggestions. She is very paranoid and force feeds her son because she doesnt think he eats enough.... I was like "sweetie, no toddler in the history of the world has starved to death when they are capable of eating and have food" I dont know what to do, my husband thinks I shouldnt talk to her anymore because he thinks maybe she will start trying to foist her son off on us. She has done that to someone else she knows she said she had to run some errands and didnt come get him from her friend until 2 days later. It is so sad, I thought seriously about calling social services but she is not seriously harming him. i think she is harming herself more.

wotfan


aino10shi

PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 10:46 am


wotfan1983
I know I have tried to help her out make friendly suggestions. She is very paranoid and force feeds her son because she doesnt think he eats enough.... I was like "sweetie, no toddler in the history of the world has starved to death when they are capable of eating and have food" I dont know what to do, my husband thinks I shouldnt talk to her anymore because he thinks maybe she will start trying to foist her son off on us. She has done that to someone else she knows she said she had to run some errands and didnt come get him from her friend until 2 days later. It is so sad, I thought seriously about calling social services but she is not seriously harming him. i think she is harming herself more.
I guess having to know she has to work, pay for the house, and taking care of a baby makes her stressed out. Teenagers, as you know, have mood swings and get depressed often (male and female). And having so many tasks to do will make her mood swings even more uncontrollable. ((I should know, Im a teen! X3)). I think you should try to encourage her....and help here and there ((but she still needs to work on her own)) 3nodding
PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 11:04 am


wotfan1983
I know I have tried to help her out make friendly suggestions. She is very paranoid and force feeds her son because she doesnt think he eats enough.... I was like "sweetie, no toddler in the history of the world has starved to death when they are capable of eating and have food" I dont know what to do, my husband thinks I shouldnt talk to her anymore because he thinks maybe she will start trying to foist her son off on us. She has done that to someone else she knows she said she had to run some errands and didnt come get him from her friend until 2 days later. It is so sad, I thought seriously about calling social services but she is not seriously harming him. i think she is harming herself more.

Have you tried talking to her parents about her behavior? If she's force-feeding her son, that's not good for the child, obviously, for many reasons.
She sounds like she needs help. And I mean if worse comes to worse, if she's really not doing well and you think her child is at risk, you could try calling Child Services and seeing if they can recommend something.

Nikolita
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Angel Fangs

PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2005 7:36 pm


wotfan
I am asking this because I got pregnant around the same time as my friend we are very much alike in maturity and behavior. The only difference is i am succeeding and she is not. We both have boys we are both married. I got pregnant 4 months before she did, she waited till after her son was born to get married, I did not. She is a sweet person and she loves her son but she is not raising him. She sleeps, and her husband or roomate take care of the baby, She refuses to wean him off the bottle. He is a very whiny unhappy child begging for her attention all the time. I just dont understand why she is not succeeding. We are both stay at home parents and she still manages to ignore her son. It is bothersome and i worry about them. Does anyone have any ideas why this sort of thing happens, has anyone been in this situation, looking in on a family in turmoil?
What do you think is so different about us that is making one of us fail?


You have to concider that you and she are differnet people and have different pasts and upbringing. How you are can be compleatly different to how she is. It doesnt matter how old you are you can still be a bad parent. I think that your friend jsut has some growing up to do yet. Its hard to be a teen mom. I am glad yuo are succeding but just because you are doesn't mean that she will. Keep in mind that you are going to parent in different ways and that mabye she wasn't ready for all of this ( honestly who is?) but hopefuly things will change for the childs sake. back to the topic. It really doesn't depend on age it really depends on the person.
PostPosted: Sat Oct 01, 2005 1:37 am


It sounds like she is having difficulty bonding with her baby... in Ontario Canada we have early years centers that offer free parenting and baby and me classes that can help with this... many mom's do not know how to play with their babies. She may not be finding the "joy of aprenting" she is always hearing about just the hard work and seemingly thankless drudgery. I would suggest heading out together to a library program for mom's and tots together, or even just get out to a park and let the little ones play together. Many over whelmed mom's use food to substitute for love and afection... child wants cuddles they get a cookie, child wants to engage mommy in play they get a cookie, child has a tummy ache from too many cookies they get a bottle and bed!

Youyr friend may be genuinly overwhelmed and not know any better, she may feel if she is doing the minimum of feeding, changing, and making sure Jr. gets his naps that she is doing her best as a parent. She may have post partum and not be up for much more. However she is neglecting his emotional needs and setting herself up for some REAL TROUBLE later on in life.

She may not know that having a whiny emotionally demanding child can be a warning sign. She needs a parenting course NOW, before thigns get out of hand, and if she is unwilling then Child protective services may be the answer... honestly if she gets a good worker she may just get the help she needs, but it is A POTENTIAL FREINDSHIP BREAKER! However, the life of a child may be worth it.

She may not realize that learning to play with and enjoy her child may solve many of her problems. Meeting a child's emotional needs makes for a happier child. Two is not too late, but may be just in time. She may also need to learn about how to dicipline a toddler ( and I am not talking about spanking here but teaching a child bounderies is a way of providing for their emotional well being). Help her learn how to give a time out to a toddler.

Krystlanna


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 01, 2005 6:35 am


Mabye she never realised what she was getting herself in for. Sorry if I just missed it but what is her husband doing to help her?
Mabye all she needs is someone to talk to, if not a friend then a counselor. If it's possible she is suffering from post natal depression.

This website has the symptoms for post natal depression if it's any help: http://www.pni.org.uk/
PostPosted: Sat Oct 22, 2005 6:01 pm


I think she needs a credable, knowledgable professional to tell her that your parenting needs to be critiqued otherwise, she'll probably just get angry and defensive and it's going to snowball into a fight. Just remind her that she should give her son more attention, he needs his mother now more than any other time in his life.

mangachan


.J.a.c.k.e.r.s.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 26, 2005 10:16 am


Well...

My daughter Pippa loves me, though I only have time to see her at weekends.

I show her I love her by letting her stay up with me if there is video she wants to watch, and by helping her bathe and stuff.

Just being there when you can makes all the difference
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