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Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2005 5:02 am
Well...It has come to my attension that there is hardley anyone that ever posts here and we don't realy discuss what we should be doing. We have alot of members, but theres little activity going on in this guild. There is little that we have been doing. I've seen the banner thing which you all have done a very good job on, but instead of doing that we should be disscussing on the reason why this guild was made in the first place. Its cool that Cycon is here and he makes good animations, but alot of people have been joining so they can talk to him because of his fame. I'm just stating what comes in my head, and I think we all could better ourselves at what we are really suposed to be doing...well...thats all i really have to say. PLEASE REPLY ABOUT WHAT YOU THINK! THANK YOU!
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Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2005 5:05 am
well there is an official Rp guild. But i agree, Even tho we have groups like delta , omega and alpha squad, there relaly isn't much pertaining to the guild and Cyon that is here. ..maybe we should change it?
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Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2005 5:11 am
I think we should start doing what we were set to do and try to make Gaia better. We could change it, but that is really not my position. We all want to meak Gaia better, therefor, we should have no problem in talking about what we need to do and how to go about it the right way. Like...I'm am surprised that someone posted right now. All of the forums have not been talked in and i haven't seen much people around to talk.
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Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2005 6:06 am
Well, to make a change in the site, how is it you plan to do so? Any ideas as of now? I do believe that you are right though, but I'm afraid I do not know what to do about it at this particular moment in time.....
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Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2005 7:11 am
I'm Terribly sorry but I havent been able to post here as much as I used to. But maybe once i'm finally out of school... I really do wish we could be discussing what to do in our squads but it seems to me as if the squad idea is kind of... Falling apart. Theres almost an underlying sense of chaos about the guild at the moment. Well at least thats how I feel.
My squad leader hasn't showed up since I think sometime around May. I'll have to double-check. But because of that Omega is kind of at a stand-still. As for the other squads.. as far as I know not much is happening with them either. So far we've been confronted with some minor threats but we keep pushing them aside saying we have bigger issues. I have no idea what these bigger issues are, and I can only let myself be distracted by these minor problems. No one tells the penguak anything... T__T We need to get his place back in order while Cycon is off doing dial-up-ee things. I'm sure he's preoccupied with his own life as are alot of us. Myself included. I'd take some initiative but I have no idea how I'd go about it. Or even whether or not my ideas would be any good for the guild. But perhaps I should voice my opinion...
We've been instructed to recruit as many people as possible but I'm starting to wonder if thats the best idea. Theres the issue of loyalty of course. There could be infinate numbers of spies among those guild members that have neglected to post. This last bit is also a problem. There are obviously those that joined and never posted again. I'm fairly sure many of these people joined and never returned to the guild. And than the third issue is all those that join just because of Cycon. These gaians probably don't give a fark about our cause. And i'm fairly sure theres even some gambino supporters in there that joined for the sole purpose of possibly meeting Cycon.
If these are the results of mass recruiting I think we should reconsider our methods. Maybe we should do a little research before sending an invite. Or even accepting someone into the guild who applies. Perhaps recruiting with the intention of gaining numbers isn't the best way to go about things. Yes having a large group of gaians in the guild might seem like a good idea, but wouldn't you rather have your guildees be passionate or at least interested in the cause and willing to fight for it. Even if this means the numbers might decrease by a couple hundred. Having hundreds of members that all post might get kind of overwhelming anyway.
Also maybe we shouldn't flaunt Cycon's name so much when recruiting. Yes its nice to have someone well known to aid us, but Cycon shouldn't be our deal breaker. If we continue to paste Cycon's name all over our signatures and such we're just going to end up with more crazed fans spamming the guild. If we want our members to truly support us than we shouldn't use Cycon as our main bargaining tool.
bleh sorry for the long posteh... Penguaks gunna get some sleep while she still can. =_=
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Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2005 9:29 am
You bring up a very good point Swift, many good points, I might say. Spies may occur, that is true, and people who join and never come back, also true. And using Cycon as a bargaining chip? I would say most definatly. I'll admit, that's what got me here in the first place, was Cycon. But, I've grown to care for the cause and am willing to fight for it as well. I agree, we need to stop using him as our advantage and try to get people to come here to fight for the alliance, but the thing is, we do need people, and that's the main problem.....we need more support. I'm all for it, but I want to figure out....how?
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Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2005 9:52 am
Well there's a few ways we can go about this. If we mean to single out the ones who are loyal to the cause from the rest, there's probably two or three ways we can do that. However, if we did single them out, we should go about it secretly, not announcing it to the entire guild.
Method One: We keep this guild, and just ban all the unparticipating members. Method Two: We create a hidden guild (perhaps) and invite only the ones that have proven their loyalty to the Alliance in one way or another. Method Three: Ummmmm something else logical goes here...
Pros and Cons of Method One: Pro: We get to keep ALL the work previously done up to date without the use of back up files on one of our computers, and Cycon remains to be the OFFICIAL guild leader in accordance to the forum database. Con: This might give the Alliance a bad name if we were to kick out the majority of our members. We could very well even lose an ally or two. Afterall this isn't the Holocaust, we're not trying to rid Gaia of ALL standing in our way.
Pros and Cons of Method Two: Pro: This Guild will be where all the serious work begins with only those that are most dedicated to the cause. Unlike the dicking around that's begun in this guild, we can really start to buckle down and get ourselves organzined and prepared to revolutionize Gaia like we originally intended without "tainting" our name. Cons: We may very well lose a lot of work that's been put into the Alliance so far if we don't create backups of all that work. Also, unless Cycon comes back on soon, we may have to create the new guild without him, meaning Cycon won't be the leader in accordance to the database in the computers. Though, this is probably our best bet for a new and fresh start.
In pretaining to the excessive advertisements of Cycons name, We can change ALL of our banners and logos and such to "The Alliance" instead, and of course also make new ones.
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Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2005 5:55 pm
Yeah, I've grown a life so I am not on nearly as much. My bad.
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Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2005 6:02 pm
Well I understand not wanting to use Cycon as much but the fact is that his name's part of the guild. When I joined the guild I understood that It's his guild, but that did create the problem of the DCK fans wanting to join. Unfortunitly people don't read the rules which explained Cycon. SO you guys got other ideas on how to deal with it?
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Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2005 7:17 pm
This was nly a pipe-dream of fun. People became inactive, things got boring. People left. It died. It happens.
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Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2005 8:33 pm
I agree with Method # 2. Usually the best thing to do is to root out all the people who dont want to help and get started on a fresh slate. my recommendation though is to wait for Cycon to get back on, so that way he can be established as the head of the new guild, but it's not up to me, just a suggestion.
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Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2005 8:43 pm
Well perhaps if Cycon created an Alt to create the seperate guild. And we didn't make it obvious that the guild was for the alliance. That way we could use this guild to gain numbers and such, and once we judge that someone is loyal invite them to the new guild.
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Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2005 9:48 pm
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Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2005 9:53 pm
*shrugs* Do whatever, my intel is only going to be placed here... and right now, it's hard to get intel when nothing is happening...
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Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2005 10:15 pm
Swiftpaw Well perhaps if Cycon created an Alt to create the seperate guild. And we didn't make it obvious that the guild was for the alliance. That way we could use this guild to gain numbers and such, and once we judge that someone is loyal invite them to the new guild. I think that would do very well. I like the idea of that being done. Truely a great way to see who all wants to help Swift ^_^
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