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If God says its wrong, then I assume he has a good reason for it, as a semi-friend of mine said on his website (Which is currently down unfortunately). The bible says in a few places that it is wrong, and as I said to my mom about homosexuality before she decided she didn't believe the bible to be truth anymore, if you're going to believe the bible, you can't go around picking and choosing which parts you believe. Meaning, you can't say, "I agree with the bible on Witchcraft but I think its wrong on homosexuality", because that makes no sense. So I think all Christians who believe the bible can't argue the fact that God is indeed disapproving of homosexuality.

So, as for dealing with the secular community and spreading that message, I think we need to make some things clear that aren't necessarily being made clear to them in some cases:

-"Love the sinner hate the sin", we have nothing against homosexuals, we just have a problem with their sexual prefrence.

-We believe the bible and what it says is true, and since it says that homosexuality is wrong we believe that. In general, that is the only reason why we discourage homosexuality.

-If your friend was cutting herself, which lets assume most people feel is wrong, would you be able to live with the fact that she's doing this and you make no attempt to talk to her about it? That's what its like asking a Christian to keep their opinions about homosexuality to themself, you want to talk to people about it because we feel they are hurting themselves in the long run by doing what they're doing, it is intolerance in love. As with the above point, we need to show we do share our opinions out of love, not because homosexuals are an outlet for out hate.

There are some Christians out there that give people a bad veiw of homosexuality because they approach the situation wrong. They say, "If you do this you'll go to hell." which is very upsetting and and angering thing to hear, and will in most cases not make the person on the recieving end of this phrase run out and buy a bible. It might make people think about what they're doing, but the kind of hate towards Christians that spawns from it in most cases makes this seem not worth the effort to me. I think if you are going to talk to someone about their homosexuality it should be in a personal way, factual, loving, and not pressuring. Remember that no matter how difficult it might be to deal with, it is they who must make the choice in the end, not you. Christians should be, to their friends and family or even strangers, someone to be avaliable to talk with at all times and should show that we aren't all talk- show that Jesus has made a change in our lives to make us better people. As the bible says, you need to make your light shine, and like a guiding light in the darkness of sin they will come wink

And all this is in my humble opinion, of course, I'm definately not and expert on the subject sweatdrop

Oh and the bible was written by man. Yes you can pick and choose what you agree with and against the bible. I think if "god" was as holy as he claims to be, he'd prefer your mind to be your owns, not currupted by a book that was made by a really bad writer.

I have never heard that before. Have any sources?He is both. We need not make up our Mind.Not my fault, it is your writing. Perhaps an Education is in Order?YOU Especially, should not tell anyone of their lacking in English Ability. And that quote was a Hebrew Translation to Elizabethian English, of Course it doesn't sound correct in a Modern Tongue.That is not Love, that is Lust. Love is Kind, it does not Boast, it is not Jealous...Love is not an Action, i is a feeling. And regarddless of wether or not it is between a Man or Woman, a 'quickie' is not love.Who's the One throwing themselves into a Christian Forum and Blasting Everything that we believe?I believe you are refferring to the Jewish Seter, which is, believe it or not, Jewish. AS in Not Christian.We don't claim what is and isn't Moral, God Does.You have no following, thus I don't believe many people would listen to your blabbering. And What does Hitler have to do with Christianity? He wasn't following the Faith too well, I believe. And It was his Nazi Ideals that started that, so don't even Try.

Wow Takai...this is why I love you! heart

It's not our place to judge man....it's God's job to judge. Our job is to win souls for the church. It is the one thing we can do in God's sevice on earth that we can't do in heaven. This is why homosexuality matters to us. I have gay friends, people I love beyond reason, who do not know God and are not going to be in heaven with me. I have literally collapsed on the kitchen floor sobbing about this--That is why I care what others do. I can't drag them to heaven, and they aren't going to want to be saved unless they aren't doing something our bible calls wrong. That's why I'm against homosexuality. It's keeping people I love out of heaven.

Of course, God loves the gays. He loves us all. That doesn't mean that He loves the sins that we commit. Yes, He created us all, but He did not put sin in us. Mankind chose sin. Yes, gays will be kept out of heaven if they do not repent and ask for forgiveness just like anyone else who sins.

Nah, bro. Repentance means stopping. You can't ask forgiveness for Theft, and then just be immune to the Justice Repurcusions.

It happens, believe it or not. Not everyone does it, but that could be blamed on the fact that most Churches put their backs to all their Members that come out of the Closet, and face their Gay Feelings. The Churches need to start supporting their HomoSexual Members, and stop telling them teir going to burn in hell. That tends to turn alot of people away.