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PostPosted: Thu Oct 21, 2004 4:10 pm


My mother and I are attempting to introduce my family to the world of paganism by doing a 'stone soup' type of thing. I need to know if anyone has any kinds of ideas on herbs that we could add to it so that it'll still taste good, but has meaning.

we are looking for meanings somewhere between courage, strength, love, acceptance, things positive like that. If any of you out there have wisdom in the topic of herbs, then please, give me some feedback. Thanks!
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 21, 2004 7:21 pm


Stone Soup is an old Pagan tradition dating back over a thousand years. I'm not sure if you know the ledgend or not, but for anyone who wants to hear the story, here it is:

~*~*~*~*~*~

In another time, in a place far from where we sit, a traveler walked the paths of the earth. He moved from one place to another ... never staying long and never leaving a village, or her people, unchanged. You see, he gathered wisdom and knowledge. Sometimes the traveler would learn from the elderly and sometimes from the babes ... sometimes from the mother worried about her household and sometimes from the warrior fresh from battle. Each had their story and the traveler always quietly listened. With calm suggestions and stories of the gods and other places, the traveler managed to plant seeds of new wisdom.

One day, his travels took him through a land almost barren. The trees were twisted and showed little sign of bearing fruit. The land was brown with just a few stalks of grain standing upright. The traveler paused, gazing about him, shaking his head. The sky was clear ... a river ran pure and strong. The feeling here was bleak ... but it also felt like something done by man. A short walk away was a small village. The stone buildings were as poorly kept as the land. What could the problem be? A glance at the sky revealed it was towards midday, and the traveler stepped up to knock at a closed and shuttered door. Perhaps over a meal, he could find out what had happen in this place.

"GO AWAY!"

The traveler started to hear such harsh tones in answer to a simple knock. "I am a simple traveler and I was wondering if you might have some bread and ale to spare. I can pay for what I eat...." A small viewing window in the door opened and a woman peered out.

"Stranger, I have enough for my own family, and none to spare. So begone!" The peephole slammed shut. This was indeed strange, since most people were eager for coin and any news a stranger might bring. After getting the same response to several more knocks, the traveler paused to think about what to do. Finally, he began to smile.

Pulling the hood of his cloak forward to shade his face, he started to collect wood from the ground. Building a small fire in the middle of the village square, a pot was filled with water and set to heat. Feeling people watching from the windows around him, the traveler took out two stones. One was the darkest black and the other purest white. With a smile, he dropped them into the pot. Next went two pieces of bone ... bone so old that the edges were dry and splintered. Humming a merry song, he started to stir the mixture ... and waited.

Slowly ... very slowly ... people began to leave the buildings and walked towards the stranger and his fire. "Hey! What do you think you are doin'?" one man demanded.

An elderly man leaned over the pot, balancing on his stick. "Stones and bones?!" his high voice asked. "You can't make soup out of those! Any fool knows that well!"

A small boy settled down at the traveler's side, smiling up at the stranger. "How wonderful! I never heard of stone and bone soup before!"

Sparing a smile for the boy, the traveler looked out at the villagers with a very bland look. "Then I must be a fool, for I am making such a soup." He stirred it again, paused for a taste. "In some places that I have traveled, stone soup is quite a tasty dish." Satisfied with the taste, the traveler continued to stir the water. "Tell me.... What happened to this place? The fields are barren and the people unfriendly."

In the uproar that followed, it was hard to weed out the facts. The tale of feuds and hoarding and unneighborly behavior had the traveler sighing. He tasted the 'broth' again, and again sighed. "If only I had some potatoes," he stated. "With potatoes, this would be fit for a king!"

The boy tugged at the stranger's clothing. "Swen has potatoes. I know he does. He brags about it."

All eyes went to the one named Swen. Swen turned a bright red. "Yes, I do, but my family..... " The eyes stayed on him and finally, he shrugged sheepishly. "I will fetch some potatoes...."

Cut up, the potatoes were a wonderful addition to the soup, but soon the traveler was looking wistful. "If I only had some onions... Can you just imagine what flavour they would add?"

A stout housewife smiled. "I have a few onions ... just a moment!" She hurried away and returned with an armful of onions. "Here ye go!"

The onions were quickly added, as were carrots, leeks, dried meat, and milk. Each time the traveler mentioned a food, the boy whispered who had hidden hoards of the food. Finally with a dusting of salt and spices, the traveler declared that the soup was done.

"Of course, soup is only part of a meal .... It takes bread and ale to fill it out," the traveler proclaimed. "And of course, good company. Go ... bring your families and bread and drink ... and we will feast together!"

The villagers looked around at each other, then shyly smiled. Nodding their agreement, they left to gather together their families. Soon only the young boy was left at the stranger's side.

Peering up, the boy asked a question that was bothering him. "It is such a small kettle .... How will it be enough to feed the whole village?"

The traveler chuckled, then laughed. "Small one ... trust in the gods and in miracles." Laughter continued to dance in the stranger's one eye. "Everyone will be fed."

And so it was. The soup was shared and pronounced excellent. Ale flowed into each cup and there was plenty of bread. When everyone was full and feeling merry, the traveler stood. "I must leave you now, even though you have fine ale. But think on this after I depart.... Together we made a good soup. Just think what else you could gain by being one people! Look around you ... do you wish to go on like this? Or by each of you contributing what you can make this village a happy place to live."

There was a silence as his words fell into their hearts. With a final grin for the young boy, the traveler strode away and was soon out of sight. The villagers took his words to heart and the small community became a fine place to live.

~*~*~*~*~*~*~

Now that you know the story behind this traditional pagan soup, it is actually quite simple to make. The traditional way to cook this soup was to start some water boiling and add any ingredient you can find and want in your soup as it's cooking.

Start by filling a pot, as large as you can get, with water and set it to a low to medium heat.

Keeping true to the name, a white rock and a black rock are a must. Make sure they're clean, of course, before adding them to your pot. Say a prayer to bless them before adding them.

Next, add a bone. This is where the soup gets most of it's flavouring. It's added before all the other ingredients so it can cook the longest. Ham bones are tastiest and you can add them with the meat still attached, or cut the meat off and add it seperatley.

And speaking of meat, add any kind you like. Ham, beef, chicken, pork... cut up into small pieces.

Next come potatoes, also sliced up, a chopped onion, and any other vegetables you choose.. carrots, tomatoes, etc...

And finally add herbs as seasoning and flavouring.

Now, to (finally) answer your question, I would recommend basil, garlic, parsley and thyme.

Basil, for love, protection and purification.
Garlic for strength and communication.
Parsley for love and protection.
Thyme for clarivoyance, courage and love.

These are all kitchen herbs, so you shouldn't have any trouble finding them. Some common pagan-used herbs are not very easy to find herbs, but these are. And they taste good too! wink

Finally, on a low heat, cook the soup for 2 or 3 hours and add salt and pepper to your taste. There you have it! Traditional Pagan soup! ^_^

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 21, 2004 8:04 pm


Just to point out, ^^^^^^ Is EXTREMELY similar to the story in the Bible, where Jesus feeds all the people off of fish. Ya know?
PostPosted: Fri Oct 22, 2004 6:50 am


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Just to point out, ^^^^^^ Is EXTREMELY similar to the story in the Bible, where Jesus feeds all the people off of fish. Ya know?


Hey someone noticed that mythologies ((True or not, I won't let that discussion go anywhere.)) usually share similarities. If I remember properly, wasn't there a Greek myth of a small amount feeding many more than it should?

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 22, 2004 9:11 am


thank you all very much for helping me with this. we have to start the soup tonight. We're having each member of my family bring a vegetable and then we are going to put it all together to introduce them to our beliefs... My mom came up with the idea, but I thought it was really cool, so now we are going through with it. This is going to be so much fun! ^.^
PostPosted: Fri Oct 22, 2004 12:05 pm


That is such a cool idea. if my family was a little more open i would do that in a heart beat. sadly though in my family i am alone when it comes to my belifes

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 22, 2004 2:31 pm


Oh that's a good idea. I was actually planning on having a whole bunch of friends over on Halloween and making stone soup 3nodding

I've done it before; it's really very nice if you do it right. 'course, the first time it was REALLY gross because I forgot to clean the rocks... sweatdrop
PostPosted: Fri Oct 22, 2004 3:47 pm


I made stone soup once in kindergarten. I had no idea it was a Pagan thing.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 22, 2004 4:35 pm


Yeah, the same thing happened to me. It was actually my favorite part of kindergarten, besides aggravating the teachers.
PostPosted: Fri Oct 22, 2004 6:44 pm


Kinda like the flood in the bible. We were reading Gilgamesh in class (I still say he and Enkidu has something between them!!) And the story talked about a flood and only one man surviving along with his wife. Sound familiar anyone. In fact they think they have found archeaological proof the there really was a flood considering that nearly every culture. All the way to the Native Americans, share this tale. Interesting to think about no?

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 22, 2004 7:31 pm


Well, not definite proof, but since most early civilizations were river-valley civilizations, it make sense that they would have stories about floods.
PostPosted: Fri Oct 22, 2004 8:04 pm


No they found physical evidence. It was a layering in the soil in a canyon that dates to about the time when the flood was thought to have happened. It was really fascinating cause I was watching this show on Noah's ark. They also found another layer like this is the Grand Canyon. You know the whole Earth flooding before the ice age in the Day after Tomorrow well they think something similar to that caused the massive flood. It is all fascinating really because all of the layers in the soil point towards the same time.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 22, 2004 9:53 pm


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Hedge123
Just to point out, ^^^^^^ Is EXTREMELY similar to the story in the Bible, where Jesus feeds all the people off of fish. Ya know?


Hey someone noticed that mythologies ((True or not, I won't let that discussion go anywhere.)) usually share similarities. If I remember properly, wasn't there a Greek myth of a small amount feeding many more than it should?
Or the Hannakah(sp?) legend. You know, the oil for one day lasting 8?
PostPosted: Fri Oct 22, 2004 10:20 pm


I remember reading a Christian version of that! sweatdrop I think it was in a Christian chain letter...

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 22, 2004 10:34 pm


They actually found traces of a boat up in a mountain range somewhere... I don't remember, but it's nowhere near any water sources (lakes, rivers, ocean, inland sea...). I thought THAT was pretty crazy.
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