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 Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 11:26 am
 Yeah, believe it or not, I like Zaeris! And this is a thread for other people that like Zaeris. So, lads and lassies, if you want to discuss, post fanart, list fanfiction, or even debate the concept of Zaeris feel free. However I do one rule: As much as I love laughing at people that do this, if you are going to debate for or against this pairing, for the love of the gods, leave other pairings out! That means if you are a Cleris, Fack, Aeriroth, Zloud, etc. I will not hear of any nonsense of how Zaeris can't work because so-in-so is better with so-in-so. This also applies to Cloti, Tifiroth, etc. don't you DARE use Zaeris to accomplish your motives of making sure Aeris doesn't touch your precious Cloti and use this as a window to bash Cleris. (No offense, I am going after Cloti fans here because they are the most likely to violate this part of the rule. Hope you understand.) If I find a post that has such pollution, I will send out a PM requesting it be editted and if it is not done I will ask mods to remove it completely. This is a Zaeris' private party rather your for or against; please leave other pairings out of it.
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Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 11:59 am
Bwahahaha! Numero Uno fan, right here! This is probably my favorite pairing, and I dont even have reasoning to back it up. It just makes sense to me and its my number one preference.
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Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 12:07 pm
YES! whee I was actually thinking about making a thread on this pairing, but alas, I was too late, you beat me to it. xd
I think that Zack and Aeris look cute together. Their personalities just mesh so well together. blaugh
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Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 6:20 pm
Yes, finally my 3rd favorite pairing has a thread!!
I love Zack and Aeris because:
1: They are both dead, so it's more convinent
2: They were previously a couple, so it shows they at least had some chemistry
3: This really isn't a legitimate reason at all: I just think they look cute together (as already been stated.)
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Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 8:55 pm
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Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 9:05 pm
Yes....they were an official couple....but they had to be seperated by tragedy! crying It's like some Asian drama...
I'm particularly interested in their relationship within Crisis Core. Apparently it's deeper than most of us thought.
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Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 9:18 pm
I dont see why more people didnt think it meant anything. I mean, we know that they dated for a while before the game, and we also know that Aeris showed interest in Cloud. The ENTIRE time she knew Cloud, he was acting as Zack would have. Possible connection? Apparently not for some people.
I cannot wait for Crisis Core just to see how involved they truly were. I believe they went a lot deeper than a lot of people give credit, and I hope this game sheds more light on their relationship.
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Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 9:19 pm
Well, I'm pretty neutral in my personal liking of this coupling. They are an official couple to some degree. However, if you ever read teh Maiden Who Traveled the Lifestream... you'll see that Aeris blatantly has no interest in him anymore. If you remember when she was in the playground with cloud and mentioning how he reminded her of her first boyfriend; she also said he was a real "ladies' man". That means that he was probably very flirtatious with other girls. And, Aeris seems like the type that if you're her boyfriend.. you need to pay her a lot of attention. Not necessarily in terms of money and giving her things.. just their time, attention, and affection.
I mean... after advent children; it's possible for older things to pass away. But, you know.. Aeris never completely "died". When she fell after sephiroth, she did not become part of the lifestream like normal people do. She retained her entire consciousness; and she retained her form. I think she actually became the realization of what sephiroth was trying to become; which you see in AC as she's able to work through the water as it moves aroudn the planet.
It is possible after the end of AC, she let Cloud go. But, there hasn't been official writings on that yet.
Edit: Twindream, if you have transcripts of the role of her in crisis core adn her relation with zack.. please share with me. Because i have always been interested in backstory. <3
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Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 9:23 pm
Graceangel Well, I'm pretty neutral in my personal liking of this coupling. They are an official couple to some degree. However, if you ever read teh Maiden Who Traveled the Lifestream... you'll see that Aeris blatantly has no interest in him anymore. If you remember when she was in the playground with cloud and mentioning how he reminded her of her first boyfriend; she also said he was a real "ladies' man". That means that he was probably very flirtatious with other girls. And, Aeris seems like the type that if you're her boyfriend.. you need to pay her a lot of attention. Not necessarily in terms of money and giving her things.. just their time, attention, and affection. I mean... after advent children; it's possible for older things to pass away. But, you know.. Aeris never completely "died". When she fell after sephiroth, she did not become part of the lifestream like normal people do. She retained her entire consciousness; and she retained her form. I think she actually became the realization of what sephiroth was trying to become; which you see in AC as she's able to work through the water as it moves aroudn the planet. It is possible after the end of AC, she let Cloud go. But, there hasn't been official writings on that yet. Edit: Twindream, if you have transcripts of the role of her in crisis core adn her relation with zack.. please share with me. Because i have always been interested in backstory. <3 Bad thing about the novellas, is that theyre fan made. Theyre endorsed by Squenix, but they are just elaborate fan-fics that caught the corporate eye. And the only info on Aeris and Zack in Crisis Core is the translations of the brief trailer, which I posted on the main forum. Other than that trailer and a few other little notes, theres not much else on Crisis Core in general.
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Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 2:04 am
My opinion?
AerithxZack > CloudxAerith
XD;;
It just seems more RIGHT to me.
D;
Cloud belongs with Tifa in my opinion, so Aerith get's Zack by default I guess...
XD;
That's not the reason I like it though! I like it because... Hey, I believe she loved him and NOT Cloud, so yeah.
XP;;
Nothing much to say, I just always thought it was right.
D;
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Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 8:18 am
Touching on what soad mentioned earlier, I am only going to respond with saying Aeris feelings for Cloud are solely dependant on her feelings for Zack really cheapens it on both ends.
To have feelings for someone else because they remind you, especially after such time. Being reminded of old loves is one thing. But not being able to let go of the relationship make the actual relationship appear childish. It also cheapens Zack as a character sadly falling him back into the catagory of "defective back-up Cloud".
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Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 12:04 pm
Amylin Touching on what soad mentioned earlier, I am only going to respond with saying Aeris feelings for Cloud are solely dependant on her feelings for Zack really cheapens it on both ends. To have feelings for someone else because they remind you, especially after such time. Being reminded of old loves is one thing. But not being able to let go of the relationship make the actual relationship appear childish. It also cheapens Zack as a character sadly falling him back into the catagory of "defective back-up Cloud". I must be reading this wrong, cause I just cannot understand it. Could you explain what it means? Im in a stupid funk right now.
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Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 12:11 pm
Graceangel Well, I'm pretty neutral in my personal liking of this coupling. They are an official couple to some degree. However, if you ever read teh Maiden Who Traveled the Lifestream... you'll see that Aeris blatantly has no interest in him anymore. If you remember when she was in the playground with cloud and mentioning how he reminded her of her first boyfriend; she also said he was a real "ladies' man". That means that he was probably very flirtatious with other girls. And, Aeris seems like the type that if you're her boyfriend.. you need to pay her a lot of attention. Not necessarily in terms of money and giving her things.. just their time, attention, and affection. I mean... after advent children; it's possible for older things to pass away. But, you know.. Aeris never completely "died". When she fell after sephiroth, she did not become part of the lifestream like normal people do. She retained her entire consciousness; and she retained her form. I think she actually became the realization of what sephiroth was trying to become; which you see in AC as she's able to work through the water as it moves aroudn the planet. It is possible after the end of AC, she let Cloud go. But, there hasn't been official writings on that yet. Edit: Twindream, if you have transcripts of the role of her in crisis core adn her relation with zack.. please share with me. Because i have always been interested in backstory. <3 Sorry, I don't have any info other than the Crisis Core trailer. From the trailer, we can assume that they were really close. (especially the part where Zack was crying and Aeris went over to hug him. heart ) In the novella, actually, Aeris may have said she had no interest in him, but it states that she might hold something for him still, when it said that he acted the way he was, the one she fell in love with. Of course it's quite vague, but there might be a love that is irreplacable.
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Posted: Sun Dec 10, 2006 6:18 pm
soadshuyin Amylin Touching on what soad mentioned earlier, I am only going to respond with saying Aeris feelings for Cloud are solely dependant on her feelings for Zack really cheapens it on both ends. To have feelings for someone else because they remind you, especially after such time. Being reminded of old loves is one thing. But not being able to let go of the relationship make the actual relationship appear childish. It also cheapens Zack as a character sadly falling him back into the catagory of "defective back-up Cloud". I must be reading this wrong, cause I just cannot understand it. Could you explain what it means? Im in a stupid funk right now. I'm going to take a wild guess and say that what Amylin means is that you can't say that Aeris only liked Cloud because he reminded her of Zack. I'd get more into this interpretation but I really don't want to falsely interpret something and start some ranting raid. In my opinion, the fact that Cloud was so much like Zack (in the beginning) is what got her interest in the first place but after a while she really wanted to know what the real Cloud was like. This is supported by what she said in the date scene and it is indesputable. After all, people look for certain things in a person before starting a relationship but they also know that there must be something to set them apart from that past love because if there weren't then the relationship would lead to the same end. Again, I'd get more into this but I'm a Clotif fan and I really don't want to say something that would get me interpreted as anything otherwise, nor do I want to start something with some other people either. Especially since the only reference material I have by my side is the game and AC.
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Posted: Sun Dec 10, 2006 7:57 pm
Sara Hysaro soadshuyin I must be reading this wrong, cause I just cannot understand it. Could you explain what it means? Im in a stupid funk right now. I'm going to take a wild guess and say that what Amylin means is that you can't say that Aeris only liked Cloud because he reminded her of Zack. I'd get more into this interpretation but I really don't want to falsely interpret something and start some ranting raid. Same ballpark... What I was meaning goes into mostly refering to just Zack himself. While there isn't much on Zack himself there is still considerable noticably difference between him and Cloud. And the whole topic on Cloud even behaving like Zack seems to be quite the far fetch. All official descriptions on Zack (in game comments by Aeris, SE bio releases, etc.) describe him as thus: boastful, emotionally stable, charming, out-going, and open. None of which describes Cloud at the beginning of the game... hell that's more of a foil to Cloud than anything else. To say the Cloud is behaving JUST like Zack cheapens both characters. From what I have analysed Cloud's behavior coensides more with what seems to be what he feels Tifa expects from him. I won't go into that rant here though. It also takes Aeris OOC... one of the stronger reasons there was the Tifa/Aeris War is the point that not only both supposedly competing for Cloud was more to the point that Aeris and Tifa were foils. The foil fault to Aeris was that she was the physical damsel, not the emotional damsel. To become even infatuated for such a reason would would be contridiction to her character because such things derive from emotional dependancy more than love. And once again, I will avoid the rant on the differences between emotional dependancy and love. "Events lead to a relationship; compatible psychology holds and deepens it."
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