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Postpartum depression (not the baby blues): Been there? |
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Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 11:30 am
Does anyone have any good links to share? It's been nearly 2 months since my son was born and I need help with dealing with my feelings. I dont' want to go on medication as I'm not sure this is entirely 'horemonal' like my hubby would like to think.
If I get overtired, or if Gabe has been having a really bad day, I find that I get frustrated and start thinking very negative thoughts about my son. Some of them have been getting really scary and I want it to stop. I'm going to see my doctor on Wednesday about it (and for birthcontrol) so that's already taken care of. I guess I just want to hear from other moms who might've gone through this and of course get some advice from the knowledgable ladies here.
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Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 5:22 am
 Whether you want to go on medication is not an issue if you feel like you want to do something bad to your son.
This is when you need to put your son before you. You might need it. I know that some of the other moms had the baby blues, but if you get that far than you need to tell your doctor and there's a good chance he will give you something. There's a point where it stops being hormonal though. I think you've reached that point.
I'm not saying I'm a doctor. I'm just saying you shouldn't turn down the idea of taking something for a bit. It's not something to look down on.
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Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 7:52 pm
Thanks for the reply. Does it matter that I know I would never actually hurt him, and just think that way sometimes? Probably not. I haven't shut the door on medication and realize that yeah, I'll most likely be prescribed something, I just really really REALLY hate the idea. I'm the kind of person who doesnt' like to take tylenol for a headache and tried to have an all natural childbirth.
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Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 9:10 pm
 Yeah, it doesn't really matter that much.
I've been there and I don't like to take medicine unless I have to. You'll be okay though. It's not that uncommon.
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Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 8:51 am
Here's the thing. Everyone thinks dark thoughts. Sometimes when things are difficult you might think, gee it would be better if we ALL (as in the family) got in a car accident and all died at once. Type thing. It's NORMAL. Not everyone admits it and they might tell you they think roses and honey bees all the time but that's BS.
BUT if you are crying constantly and unprovoked, unmotivated, OVERLY exhausted (like wanting to do nothing but sleep even on a rare occasion that you get good sleep), thinking dark things specificially toward someone, having to take more and more time out from caring for your child because of these things, etc. etc. Then it is most likely full on Depression.
Normal "baby blues" that every woman gets when the hormones leave their system should last no longer than two weeks tops. That's because those hormones leave in a WHOOSH! when that placenta goes. Granted you can still feel stressed out and tired and possibly cry but if it keeps going and you STILL feel hopeless and tired everyday it's time to seek medical help.
I probably should have gone in to see someone and gotten a temporary perscription for something those first three months with Bella. I cried, and I kid you not. EVERY SINGLE DAY for two months straight. I was miserable. I would set her down and just let her scream for an hour while I hid in the bedroom with my eldest. I would look at Bella and think "We have ruined our lives. YOU have ruined our lives" I would say out loud "I hate you" and "Shut up!" and would only partially joke "We're going to take you back to the hosptial!"
It took me a long time to really REALLY bond with Bella. I felt for so long that she was an intrusion. I loved her but hated her prescence and disruption and needyness and THAT was what made me cry every day. Because then I had all this GUILT over feeling like a shitty mom. AND I thought "You should know babies are hard, you should just shut up, she's a baby, you're an adult...you already have a kid, come on suck it up already!"
I knew I wouldn't hurt Bella, but I do think sadly that I withheld attention early on. As lashing out on HER, as punishing HER for how I felt (dude see: Guilt above)
Honestly I am so scared to have another kid mostly because of THAT experience. It was horrible. I hated it.
There are all kinds of Anti-Depressants that you can also take while breastfeeding and you may find that you are more free to be loving and giving with him even if you didn't think you were withholding it before.
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Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 9:33 am
I know we're focusing on the thoughts portion here, but I have to ask, Eladrin, do you take any time for yourself yet? I know the first two months when I was constantly BFing Ethan, I was depressed all the time because I never did anything it seemed besides feed him, change diapers and try to sleep. And he's really needy anyway, so even if everything else with him was fine, he needed to be held. And I HATE to be touched a lot. I was so resentful of him and his need to constantly be on me. I was convinced he hated me. I didn't even get regular showers in and feeling dirty just made it so much worse. I couldn't even eat at regular intervals on the days my hubby is on shift. I was miserable.
Once I started militantly demanding a couple hours a week to even grocery shop by myself, it got a lot better. I couldn't go for long at first, because Ethan needed to be fed and I can't pump to save my life, but as he got past that 10 week mark and needed to be fed less often, I could be gone longer. Now that he can eat solids as well, I can go out up to three hours at a time and it's really been the best thing. I know that if he needs anything, Chris can handle it and he can give him some solids to tide him over until I get back. Now I go shopping, get myself a drink like a soda, and listen to my iPod as I shop. It's like a mini-vacation, as corny as that sounds.
Once I started taking more time for myself, I felt much better. So if you aren't doing that already, I thought I'd throw the idea out there.
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Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 9:43 pm
Nopenname I would look at Bella and think "We have ruined our lives. YOU have ruined our lives" I would say out loud "I hate you" and "Shut up!" and would only partially joke "We're going to take you back to the hosptial!" It took me a long time to really REALLY bond with Bella. I felt for so long that she was an intrusion. I loved her but hated her prescence and disruption and needyness and THAT was what made me cry every day. Because then I had all this GUILT over feeling like a shitty mom. AND I thought "You should know babies are hard, you should just shut up, she's a baby, you're an adult...you already have a kid, come on suck it up already!" Ding ding! That's almost exactly how I feel right now! I feel resentful and angry and then I feel guilty for feeling that way. I also feel tightly wound like I'm going to cry or lash out at my hubby any second most of the time. He's responded to my depression by being extra cuddly but it's the opposite of what I need. I need to be able to go to him when I need to, not feel smothered. I know it's just his way of reaching out to me though.
Thanks PirateDirge; I do get out just about every day now that I'm all healed up from my c-section. My mom comes by and we either go out with Gabe in the stroller or I go out by myself even if it's just to the local mini-mall for a rental movie or batteries for Gabe's swing. It's made a big difference so far and I'm hoping to keep it up despite winter threatening to dump it's first big snow any time.
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Posted: Sat Nov 25, 2006 8:54 pm
Help or hinderance? Going back to work early...I've taken up a few hours a week at my old job at the petstore. Lots of physical labour and not too much stress despite it being the xmas season. Only 8 hours a week right now, so I think I'll be ok. I think this might actually help a lot; before my son arrived I was a very busy person with lots to do. Now I'm happy if I have anything at all to do besides take care of him! I've hated the inactivity of my recovery of this so very early stage of childcare, but I'm sure I'll miss it down the road when he's crawling or an active toddler!
Thoughts? Did anyone here go back to work early to 'escape' their home?
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Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 4:29 pm
Wel, I went and talked to my nurse and doctor about how I've been feeling and they both think I have moderate to severe depression. My doctor gave me a prescription for Prozac, but I dont' think I want it; some of the common side effects are my symptoms! I dont' want it to get WORSE. That and if I get any less interested in sex my hubby will NEVER get any. xp
(I got my info about prozac from wikipedia incase anyone wants to know. I asked my doctor about side effects and he said most likely a little nausea and not to take it before bed.
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Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 6:56 pm
So you'd rather keep feeling like you are now then take a chance you could feel better? neutral
If it doesn't work, you go back to the doctor and start over. It's not like if you take the prescription and it doesn't work that you have to stay on it. I'd give it a try and after a certain amount of time--reasonable to when you should know it would work--if it doesn't work, give the doctor a call again and discuss other options.
I don't understand why you don't want to take help if you can get it. Without the help, you could feel this way for MONTHS more before it clears up. Breastfeeding kills libido anyway, and you're doing that, so why not take a chance at feeling better with the meds? biggrin
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Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 7:21 pm
I was diagnosed with clinical depression shortly after having my second child (though I suspect I've had some form of depression for most of my life well before then). And I was put on medication for it. I also was diagnosed with anxiety problems and was put on separate medication for that.
I hate medication. Like you, I will stave off even taking a tylenol for a headache if I can. But, I had to take this medication or I knew I'd just turn more and more into a basketcase.
With the depression, I went through several anti-depressants until we finally found one that worked the best for me. I went through Paxil CR and Wellbutrin before finally ending up with Lexapro for the win. All the time having a low dosage of Xanax prescribed for my random panic/anxiety attacks.
So don't be afraid to let your doctor know if a medication isn't working for you. They will work with you to find something better! Never just let these kinds of things go under the radar. You may need a different dosage or a different medication all together, but your doctor will never know if you don't bring it up. And if your doc acts like they don't want to change things up, then drop that doc and see someone else. Depression medication is a fickle thing, so it's rare that you find something that works well on the first try.
Also, Paxil killed my libido as well. I mean KILLEd it. Srsly, I may as well have joined a convent at that time! However, Lexapro did not have those kinds of sexual side effects. So switching to that certainly helped out in that area!!
Also, my husband used to be on Prozac years ago and has told me of how awful some of the side effects are, so you're not alone in that feeling. Many people don't seem to gel well with Prozac (while others do). So do bring it up with your doc as a switch in medication could work wonders for you!
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Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 10:53 pm
Side affects for any medicines could vary wildly.
Benadryl knocks some kids out, some kids it amps up into crazy.
So who knows Prozac may be your magic bullet. Maybe not.
Talk with your husband let him know there may be side affects tell him you don't want them but you don't want to hate being a mother either. Explain to him that it'll take some time and you want to be there 100 percent for him and your baby.
You'll figure it out. And right now it seems you're not seeing the forest for the trees. You're not willing to sacrifice even for a little while something else so that you can gain the MOST IMPORTANT THING. Not feeling like your child is a burden and then beating yourself up for that feeling.
Being well is most important. Take the Prozac decide if it is for you, if not go back. There are bazillion different things they can give you these days, go through them all if you have to.
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Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 7:24 pm
EladrinStarmist Wel, I went and talked to my nurse and doctor about how I've been feeling and they both think I have moderate to severe depression. My doctor gave me a prescription for Prozac, but I dont' think I want it; some of the common side effects are my symptoms! I dont' want it to get WORSE. That and if I get any less interested in sex my hubby will NEVER get any. xp
(I got my info about prozac from wikipedia incase anyone wants to know. I asked my doctor about side effects and he said most likely a little nausea and not to take it before bed. Honestly, if you are dealing with depression, shouldn't your husband's sexual go on the FAR backburner? Your son is only two months old. I know if it came to sleep versus sex, sleep wins handsdown. Big thumbs up for Loki and Nopen's posts.
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Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 12:38 pm
I suffer from clinical depression. The thing is it is being caused by an imbalance of vital chemicals in your body. It is not just going to go away. To be the mother and wife you want to be, and to care for yourself, you need to treat your depression. If you don't want to take Prozac (which I didn't like at all) try something else celexa is supposed to have a lower incidence of side effects. I take Zoloft and have since my almost four year old was born. I have no sexual side effects, it's also said to be one of the most recommended for breast feeding mothers. There are so many differant meds out there it's worth trying a couple. If you really really don't want to take meds you need to talk seriously with your doctor about what other things you can do. Excercise, diet, and/or counseling. You have to be proactive though, depression is a serious, and sometimes debilitating disease. You can't just ignore it, and hope it goes away. If you depression is severe that means you need to get help. You have nothing to lose by trying. Like Dirge said you don't have to stay on it if you don't like it. I hope you can figure this out. I know how confusing and overwhelming it can be. If you need to talk, I'm here. My best wishes to you and stay strong.
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Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 7:42 am
Hello. I had sever post partum depression with my second and thrid babies. While prozac may not be the right thing for you rather than just not taking it look into other options like Paxil, effexor, Welbutrin and such They are all a little different. I was on Paxil while recovering from postpartum and it really helped me in combination with support and counseling.
I would recomend you talk to your husband and mom, anyone who is really understanding and supportive of you and explain to them that this is real, it is not just a matter of sucking it up. However many mom's who are going through this are very hard on themselves and tell themselves just that.
Sometimes goping back to work can be helpful for some mom's but others find that the feelings do not improve or go away when at work or even get worse because they feel guilty about not wanting to be with their baby. This is all normal. Sometimes you will feel o.k. and other times you will feel like crap.
The potential side effects of Prozac or Paxil do not affect everyone, some people get them some do not some only get some of them. I could not take prozac because ti affectred me like LSD. But other medications were fine. Keep in close touch with your doctor even if you do nt want to take medication. This will pass but can take up to two years. ( I also found that depo pervera made my PPD worse!)
Anyhow I hope some of the support and good information you have recieved here help. I am now a PPD voulenteer helping other mothers get through what you are going through! It is difficult, but you are a good mom and you will survive this!
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