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 Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2005 4:28 pm
In this day and age there are many things that may lead us astray. Tasty foods, cool new styles, or even the opinion of our peers.
How hard is it to be a Jew in modern day America? How is it in Israel? In Canada? How does life for the average Jew differ? How has it changed?
For myself, I find it hard to please my mother. I'm not very religious, but what's important to her becomes important to me. So instead of getting tatoo's and peircings up the wazoo, I stick to earings so she can have the peace of mind in knowing I'll be able to be buried in a Jewish cemetary.
From the strictest Orthodox to the most Reform, we are all Jews. But will the changes Judaism has undergone, and most likely will continue to undergo, be it's eventual downfall?
How much change is too much?
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Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2005 7:34 pm
First off, great questions Amitzah.
For me, the hardest things are the things that shouldn't be that hard- like staying Shomer Shabbas to the extent my dad wants. Which is basically just 'don't spend money'; other than that he doesn't say anything. I'm allowed online, to hang out with friends, whatever, but don't spend money. And yet I'll go to a friend's house and want to go to the mall with them, go to Starbucks, go out for a bite. Whatever! But it's all breaking Shabbas, and I always feel so guilty later.
Other things I do wrong I don't feel so guilty for. In my home, we are pretty strict about Kashrut, and with my family I eat kosher-style out of the house. But we have an open campus at lunch at my high school; if I want Starbucks with my turkey sandwich I'll get it even though it's dairy. I'm not sure why I'm not more strict about it. Maybe one day I will be.
Sometimes I think it's possible all this change will bring us down. We're no longer so distinct; there are many students in my school who no one would know as Jewish. They don't go to services even on the High Holidays, they don't keep kosher, they're truly secular. People know they're Jewish because they don't have Christmas trees. And that's a little sad.
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Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2005 10:48 pm
Kiashana Other things I do wrong I don't feel so guilty for. In my home, we are pretty strict about Kashrut, and with my family I eat kosher-style out of the house. But we have an open campus at lunch at my high school; if I want Starbucks with my turkey sandwich I'll get it even though it's dairy. I'm not sure why I'm not more strict about it. Maybe one day I will be. It's hard to keep kosher when you're surrounded by notsokosher things. ._. Not that I'm trying to make excuses... but yeah.
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Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2005 1:44 am
For me, Hillel said it all while standing on one foot. I follow the rules and traditions to the best of my abilities, but if I mess up, It's not really that big a deal. I just remember to not do anything terribly bad and it all works out.
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Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2005 9:53 am
Amitzah Kiashana Other things I do wrong I don't feel so guilty for. In my home, we are pretty strict about Kashrut, and with my family I eat kosher-style out of the house. But we have an open campus at lunch at my high school; if I want Starbucks with my turkey sandwich I'll get it even though it's dairy. I'm not sure why I'm not more strict about it. Maybe one day I will be. It's hard to keep kosher when you're surrounded by notsokosher things. ._. Not that I'm trying to make excuses... but yeah. Yea, I manage to not eat cheeseburgers or pepperoni pizza or anything like that, but sometimes I have eaten meat and have a craving for something- chocolate, or coffee, or something like that- and I just break it! It was easy while I was in Israel earlier this year though- they don't serve the dairy stuff in the McDonalds to keep you from mixing meat and milk in a meal!
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Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2005 10:21 am
I find myself following everything that I can, but I find it really sad when somebody with a Jewish upbringing goes and converts to another religion. I have absolutely nothing against other religions, and I would like to make that incessently clear, but the fact remains that the Jewish religion is dying out, and every person needs to play a part in their religion.
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darkphoenix1247 Vice Captain
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Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2005 10:31 am
wait wait we aren't supose to spend money at all o.0 how do you like... live... 0.o or is it just on the sabbath we aren't supose to spend money. gah this is what i get for reading a book that is like 50 years old. -.- darkphoenix1247 I find myself following everything that I can, but I find it really sad when somebody with a Jewish upbringing goes and converts to another religion. I have absolutely nothing against other religions, and I would like to make that incessently clear, but the fact remains that the Jewish religion is dying out, and every person needs to play a part in their religion. wow that just totally made me understand my family.. but anywho yea i feel sad all the time when people are leaving these religiiosn to go to the big religions. aspecially like christianity and stuff, i hate it. I got so mad at my ccd teacher when they were basicly tell us to go out and tell people how great our religion was, so they would convert. I hate the religions that say you will go to tell because you aren't with them. -.- stupid people. Gah, this all makes me so sad of thinking judaism would die, I won't let it die ::goes get a degree in being a doctor and gets my old plastic doctor set:: BREATH JUDAISM BREATH ::gives it an apple:: EAT THE APPLE ^.^ be healthy and strong, because we love you ::huggles:: <-- ehh ignore the pycho moment lol, but i find it funny.
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Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2005 12:19 pm
Yvette, you are amazingly awesome, so you know.
And yea, Judaism's biggest problem does seem to be losing people to other religions and intermarriages that end up with non-Jewish children. The thing is that we are sooo far from evangelical that we don't gain back the people we lose. Evangelical Christianity, meanwhile, rarely loses people and is among the fastest growing religious groups in the world.
The worst part is there's nothing we can do about this at this point. However, people at school wonder why I've said that I'm going to marry another Jew and raise Jewish children. They always ask, well, what if you fall in love with someone who isn't Jewish? The answer, though I can't say it to them, is that I won't. And if I do, well, that sucks for me, because I want to raise my children in an observant Jewish household and an intermarriage won't work with that plan.
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Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2005 6:03 am
Kiashana Yvette, you are amazingly awesome, so you know. And yea, Judaism's biggest problem does seem to be losing people to other religions and intermarriages that end up with non-Jewish children. The thing is that we are sooo far from evangelical that we don't gain back the people we lose. Evangelical Christianity, meanwhile, rarely loses people and is among the fastest growing religious groups in the world. The worst part is there's nothing we can do about this at this point. However, people at school wonder why I've said that I'm going to marry another Jew and raise Jewish children. They always ask, well, what if you fall in love with someone who isn't Jewish? The answer, though I can't say it to them, is that I won't. And if I do, well, that sucks for me, because I want to raise my children in an observant Jewish household and an intermarriage won't work with that plan. awww if i was a guy i'd wanna marry you.. eh no nevermind you're old. xp lol jk but still lol you get the point.
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Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2005 6:23 am
YvetteEmilieDupont Kiashana Yvette, you are amazingly awesome, so you know. And yea, Judaism's biggest problem does seem to be losing people to other religions and intermarriages that end up with non-Jewish children. The thing is that we are sooo far from evangelical that we don't gain back the people we lose. Evangelical Christianity, meanwhile, rarely loses people and is among the fastest growing religious groups in the world. The worst part is there's nothing we can do about this at this point. However, people at school wonder why I've said that I'm going to marry another Jew and raise Jewish children. They always ask, well, what if you fall in love with someone who isn't Jewish? The answer, though I can't say it to them, is that I won't. And if I do, well, that sucks for me, because I want to raise my children in an observant Jewish household and an intermarriage won't work with that plan. awww if i was a guy i'd wanna marry you.. eh no nevermind you're old. xp lol jk but still lol you get the point. Old? I'm not old! I'm not even 16 yet! Sure, I easily pass as 17/18 if people don't know, but I won't even be 16 until this summer. I'm like the baby of my friends. And thanks sweetie, if you were a guy I'd totally want to marry you too.
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Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2005 6:48 am
Kiashana YvetteEmilieDupont Kiashana Yvette, you are amazingly awesome, so you know. And yea, Judaism's biggest problem does seem to be losing people to other religions and intermarriages that end up with non-Jewish children. The thing is that we are sooo far from evangelical that we don't gain back the people we lose. Evangelical Christianity, meanwhile, rarely loses people and is among the fastest growing religious groups in the world. The worst part is there's nothing we can do about this at this point. However, people at school wonder why I've said that I'm going to marry another Jew and raise Jewish children. They always ask, well, what if you fall in love with someone who isn't Jewish? The answer, though I can't say it to them, is that I won't. And if I do, well, that sucks for me, because I want to raise my children in an observant Jewish household and an intermarriage won't work with that plan. awww if i was a guy i'd wanna marry you.. eh no nevermind you're old. xp lol jk but still lol you get the point. Old? I'm not old! I'm not even 16 yet! Sure, I easily pass as 17/18 if people don't know, but I won't even be 16 until this summer. I'm like the baby of my friends. And thanks sweetie, if you were a guy I'd totally want to marry you too. DUDE I THOUGHT YOU WERE LIKE OLDER like 22 gah -.- oh well, but i'm not a guy. my friend is trying to get my talk with a broklyn accent with random words of yiddish, like the person from meet fockers she is like "YOU NEED TO TALK LIKE HER" and i'm like "hey fly me to broklyn and just like leave me there for like 6 months I can get an accent" lol so she was like " ok i'll start a send christina to new york so she can get her broklyn meets yiddish accent.. oh and she needs learn yiddish fund" lmao we got drunk on moutain dew lol. anywho i just got up from about 4 hours of sleep so i'm like all out of it, and meh add is really kicking in. anywho wow... you're like the same age as me... o.0 freaky.......
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Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2005 9:54 am
YvetteEmilieDupont DUDE I THOUGHT YOU WERE LIKE OLDER like 22 gah -.- oh well, but i'm not a guy. my friend is trying to get my talk with a broklyn accent with random words of yiddish, like the person from meet fockers she is like "YOU NEED TO TALK LIKE HER" and i'm like "hey fly me to broklyn and just like leave me there for like 6 months I can get an accent" lol so she was like " ok i'll start a send christina to new york so she can get her broklyn meets yiddish accent.. oh and she needs learn yiddish fund" lmao we got drunk on moutain dew lol. anywho i just got up from about 4 hours of sleep so i'm like all out of it, and meh add is really kicking in. anywho wow... you're like the same age as me... o.0 freaky....... Dude! I've totally spent tons of time here talking about the torture of high school! I'm still a hs sophomore, damnit! Wow. Apparently I sound really old over the internet.
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Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2005 12:38 pm
eh nah i'm just really slow -.-, plus you're going to be a councilor or something at the camp and i just figured you have to be like over 18 to do that
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Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2005 2:13 pm
YvetteEmilieDupont eh nah i'm just really slow -.-, plus you're going to be a councilor or something at the camp and i just figured you have to be like over 18 to do that Counselor-in-Training. We'll all be 15 as of June 30th. pirate
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Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2005 3:15 pm
in Israel it's not really hard even if you Shomer all the thing that have.
most of the restaurant are Kosher,and if not,the percet that the restaurant near is Kosher very high xd
in Shabat,because i'm Shomeret,i hang out only with ppl who are Shomrim and that not so dificult.
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