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[10:55:13 PM] DeGei (DG) says: You realize most people heartily dislike you now
[10:56:56 PM] Padme-UNTZUNTZ says: Actually, I find a good amount of people are on my side and find what dukes did very below the line.
[10:57:14 PM] Padme-UNTZUNTZ says: Some are mad, obviously, but they are nothing to be concerned about.
[10:57:30 PM] Padme-UNTZUNTZ says: ...my avatar needs green on it's head *goes to attend to*
[10:57:41 PM] DeGei (DG) says: YOU SCREWED THE GAME OVER THRICE NOW
[10:58:37 PM] DeGei (DG) says: Dont you see anything wrong with what you did?
[10:59:08 PM] Padme-UNTZUNTZ says: xD Of course I do.
[10:59:19 PM] DeGei (DG) says: Then why did you do it?
[10:59:27 PM] Padme-UNTZUNTZ says: But I see no reason to dwell on that fact, so I choose to move on.
[10:59:46 PM] DeGei (DG) says: Just dont do it again
[10:59:48 PM] Padme-UNTZUNTZ says: Why did I do it? You act as if it was only me.
[10:59:57 PM] Padme-UNTZUNTZ says: xD You don't understand this at all.
[11:00:35 PM] DeGei (DG) says: I understand, you logged onto other people's accounts to gather private information, which you then used to disrupt game play
[11:00:41 PM] Padme-UNTZUNTZ says: No.
[11:00:47 PM] Padme-UNTZUNTZ says: Others used it to disrupt the game
[11:00:53 PM] Padme-UNTZUNTZ says: And I really screwed it over ONCE.
[11:01:00 PM] Padme-UNTZUNTZ says: The first one didn't do anything.
[11:01:04 PM] Padme-UNTZUNTZ says: ..
[11:01:04 PM] Padme-UNTZUNTZ says: wait.
[11:01:06 PM] Padme-UNTZUNTZ says: TWICE.
[11:01:16 PM] Padme-UNTZUNTZ says: Sorry, I messed up there.
[11:01:18 PM] DeGei (DG) says: You forced the information onto others this game
[11:01:23 PM] Padme-UNTZUNTZ says: No.
[11:01:24 PM] Padme-UNTZUNTZ says: Kinda.
[11:01:35 PM] Padme-UNTZUNTZ says: In a way.
[11:01:43 PM] Padme-UNTZUNTZ says: It matters how you interpert it, really.
[11:02:03 PM] DeGei (DG) says: Its like yelling "Snape Kills Dumbledore" out of a window at a group of people waiting to buy the book.
[11:02:08 PM] Padme-UNTZUNTZ says: I didn't force them to act on it, and Buzz suspected Dan and was going to make a thread before.
[11:02:10 PM] DeGei (DG) says: They cant unhear it
[11:02:12 PM] Padme-UNTZUNTZ says: No, it isn't.
[11:02:19 PM] Padme-UNTZUNTZ says: Meru played a part.
[11:02:23 PM] Padme-UNTZUNTZ says: ^-^
[11:02:35 PM] DeGei (DG) says: you said it to them
[11:02:43 PM] DeGei (DG) says: they couldnt unhear your words
[11:02:45 PM] Padme-UNTZUNTZ says: And neither nymphie nor buzz seemed TOOOOOO distraught over the information.
[11:02:50 PM] Padme-UNTZUNTZ says: I said it to them.
[11:02:52 PM] Padme-UNTZUNTZ says: They chose to act.
[11:03:02 PM] Padme-UNTZUNTZ says: I am at fault just as much as meru or dukes is.
[11:03:03 PM] DeGei (DG) says: What else could they have done?
[11:03:09 PM] Padme-UNTZUNTZ says: Nothing.
[11:03:19 PM] DeGei (DG) says: Just quit the game?
[11:03:36 PM] Padme-UNTZUNTZ says: No, just not told anyone they knew
[11:04:01 PM] DeGei (DG) says: but they would of voted for him and eventually he would have been gone
[11:04:36 PM] Padme-UNTZUNTZ says: Only if they sheeped him.
[11:04:43 PM] DeGei (DG) says: they didnt have to pass on the information but the end effect is the same, one CK has had their term shortened
[11:04:48 PM] Padme-UNTZUNTZ says: They could have chosen to do what they would have done had they not know.
[11:05:02 PM] Padme-UNTZUNTZ says: Yes DG, but the CK isn't all that mad, and had a role last game.
[11:05:17 PM] DeGei (DG) says: but their are other ramifications
[11:05:23 PM] Padme-UNTZUNTZ says: Such as?
[11:05:54 PM] DeGei (DG) says: The sniper is now the only target, he/she has no assistance and as such is now in more trouble than before
[11:06:08 PM] DeGei (DG) says: the report does not have to split the clues
[11:06:29 PM] DeGei (DG) says: On the surface removing one killer doesnt seem that bad
[11:06:41 PM] DeGei (DG) says: but the metagame effects are major
[11:06:54 PM] DeGei (DG) says: the balance is shifted
[11:07:09 PM] Padme-UNTZUNTZ says: Meh. One of them would have most likely become caught anyways, and the circumstances are the same
[11:07:49 PM] DeGei (DG) says: yes, but that would have been a natural occuring event
[11:08:19 PM] Padme-UNTZUNTZ says: So?
[11:08:31 PM] DeGei (DG) says: you are basically saying, manmade diamonds made in a month are just as valuable as the natural ones formed in several centuries
[11:08:36 PM] DeGei (DG) says: big differences
[11:09:46 PM] Padme-UNTZUNTZ says: ..........your analogy's are confuzing.
[11:09:53 PM] DeGei (DG) says: you only see the water's surface, you dont see the fish and life swimming below. Everything has depth and to brush them off as inconsequential in naive'
[11:09:58 PM] Padme-UNTZUNTZ says: xD
[11:10:05 PM] Padme-UNTZUNTZ says: No, you assume too much.
[11:10:10 PM] DeGei (DG) says: basically, you are cheapening the game
[11:10:15 PM] Padme-UNTZUNTZ says: No.
[11:10:18 PM] Padme-UNTZUNTZ says: I'm changing it.
[11:10:23 PM] Padme-UNTZUNTZ says: Things like this have happened before.
[11:10:29 PM] Padme-UNTZUNTZ says: Remember game 4?
[11:10:39 PM] DeGei (DG) says: Big EFFING DIFFERENCE
[11:10:56 PM] Padme-UNTZUNTZ says: xD
[11:10:57 PM] Padme-UNTZUNTZ says: EXACTLY
[11:11:00 PM] Padme-UNTZUNTZ says: TO YOU THERE IS
[11:11:29 PM] DeGei (DG) says: that was an assist for the killer, who is already on the low side of the game.
[11:11:30 PM] Padme-UNTZUNTZ says: But it's still an outsider coming in and effecting the game in a way that is not natural and wouldn't have happened without them.
[11:12:39 PM] DeGei (DG) says: I did not effect the game itself, no swing in voting, I assisted the killer from without and only altered their input to be more effective as best that I could assist. It extended the game, not shortened it.
[11:13:18 PM] Padme-UNTZUNTZ says: You did too effect the game itself. You posted. Posting has it's effects.
[11:13:40 PM] DeGei (DG) says: On the players, not the votes
[11:13:54 PM] Padme-UNTZUNTZ says: I didn't directly effect the votes either.
[11:14:04 PM] Padme-UNTZUNTZ says: I directly effected nothing, but whatever.
[11:14:10 PM] DeGei (DG) says: LIKE HELL DIDNT
[11:14:21 PM] DeGei (DG) says: The CK is so-and-so
[11:14:28 PM] Padme-UNTZUNTZ says: CK is Dan.
[11:14:37 PM] Padme-UNTZUNTZ says: In other words, I'm like plastic, you're like Bessemer Steel?
[11:14:42 PM] DeGei (DG) says: no
[11:15:09 PM] Padme-UNTZUNTZ says: Oh?
[11:15:11 PM] Padme-UNTZUNTZ says: Seems like it.
[11:15:35 PM] Padme-UNTZUNTZ says: We both effected it, and some people still dislike us for it, while most don't.
[11:15:37 PM] DeGei (DG) says: I added dye to the plastic as it was being molded.
You took a hammer to the plastic as it went to assembly.
[11:15:53 PM] Padme-UNTZUNTZ says: xD
[11:16:06 PM] DeGei (DG) says: You dont understand the metagame
[11:16:14 PM] Padme-UNTZUNTZ says: You effected that game more than I effected this one, and there is no way you're changing my mind.
[11:16:21 PM] Padme-UNTZUNTZ says: Justas I won't change yours.
[11:16:27 PM] Padme-UNTZUNTZ says: I say we agree to disagree.
[11:16:57 PM] DeGei (DG) says: My changes were large, but only effected one player, and that was positively.
[11:17:15 PM] DeGei (DG) says: Your changes were larger and effect several players and roles
[11:17:17 PM] Padme-UNTZUNTZ says: But effected the rest negivily
[11:17:23 PM] Padme-UNTZUNTZ says: You did, I mean.
[11:17:34 PM] DeGei (DG) says: Everything you did was negative
[11:17:52 PM] Padme-UNTZUNTZ says: No.
[11:18:05 PM] DeGei (DG) says: there is not one player that I would say your effect was positive on.
[11:18:10 PM] Padme-UNTZUNTZ says: It seemed I caught a CK. Good for everyone, wasn't it?
[11:18:18 PM] Padme-UNTZUNTZ says: But the CK. Sorry.
[11:18:28 PM] Padme-UNTZUNTZ says: But the CK already had a role and is ok with it.
[11:18:31 PM] DeGei (DG) says: no, it hurts the sniper, and shortens the game for everyone
[11:18:50 PM] Padme-UNTZUNTZ says: Shortens, but I caught him, didn't I?
[11:19:03 PM] DeGei (DG) says: you gave the answers to the crossword puzzle to someone trying to do it.
[11:19:09 PM] Padme-UNTZUNTZ says: xD
[11:19:19 PM] Padme-UNTZUNTZ says: You make to many analogies.
[11:19:42 PM] DeGei (DG) says: Catching them through detective work and catching him through rule bending/breaking are entirely different things
[11:20:08 PM] DeGei (DG) says: and I plan to make a thread for this conversation if you dont mind.
[11:20:18 PM] Padme-UNTZUNTZ says: I bended/broke NO rules, thanks.
[11:20:36 PM] Padme-UNTZUNTZ says: xDDD You want to cause more drama when everyone is already over it. Got id.
[11:20:37 PM] Padme-UNTZUNTZ says: *it
[11:20:42 PM] DeGei (DG) says: You went on another persons account and looked at their PMs.
[11:20:44 PM] Padme-UNTZUNTZ says: Feel free, though
[11:20:49 PM] Padme-UNTZUNTZ says: YES I DID.
[11:20:58 PM] DeGei (DG) says: That breaks rule number one
[11:21:08 PM] DeGei (DG) says: or whatever
[11:21:11 PM] Padme-UNTZUNTZ says: Oh, and if it's to be posted I'll clarify that dan is annoyed with me.
[11:21:13 PM] Padme-UNTZUNTZ says: But that's it.
[11:21:30 PM] DeGei (DG) says: ok then
[11:22:11 PM] Padme-UNTZUNTZ says: Yep.
[11:22:25 PM] Padme-UNTZUNTZ says: We could have been done with this when I said we should agree to disagree.
[11:22:27 PM] DeGei (DG) says: ending this now, so I can post it. And just to clarify, I got home at 10:30pm after being out all day. I just found out, so no Im not "over it"
[11:22:40 PM] Padme-UNTZUNTZ says: Obviously.

What exactly happened? Pad got into 103's account and saw the PM from Mori saying he was CK and then showed it to everyone? That's what I got out of it.

(But I DID yell "Snape kills Dumbledore" at people trying to buy the book... and people reading the book... and people on Neopets who said that they had just bought the book... etc. xD)