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 Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 11:23 am
I see a lot of girls wearing their scarfs with their hair sticking out the back, or their bangs out the front. Do you guys think that's ok or acceptable? (to girls) Do you wear a scarf? Why or why not?
by the way, if it's not clear, i mean scarf as in hijab. sorry sweatdrop
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Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 12:51 pm
I don't think it's acceptable if they're showing their bangs or hair from the back.
If that's happening, you might as well not even wear a hijab.
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Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 5:26 pm
CAPTAIN Plixy[Stix] I don't think it's acceptable if they're showing their bangs or hair from the back. If that's happening, you might as well not even wear a hijab. I agree. I mean, the point of covering your hair is to cover all of your hair.
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Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 5:47 pm
x.X.Innocent Passion.X.x CAPTAIN Plixy[Stix] I don't think it's acceptable if they're showing their bangs or hair from the back. If that's happening, you might as well not even wear a hijab. I agree. I mean, the point of covering your hair is to cover all of your hair. *agrees*
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Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 9:31 pm
CAPTAIN Plixy[Stix] I don't think it's acceptable if they're showing their bangs or hair from the back. If that's happening, you might as well not even wear a hijab. Oh so true! <333
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Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 9:18 am
Do you think that it's important to wear a scarf? Or it's ok to wear modest clothes, but no scarf?
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Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 6:17 pm
x.X.Innocent Passion.X.x Do you think that it's important to wear a scarf? Or it's ok to wear modest clothes, but no scarf? Yes actually, it is very important to wear a scarf. It's your permission if you want but it is an Islamic law and girls who reach puberty are advised to wear it. There is a time in a woman's life when she decides to wear it for the rest of her life. A lot of women wear it till they die when they get married to show their modesty toward their husband. The scarf was made so we women can cover our hair which does attract men and so does our necks. Sounds stupid or weird at first but when you think about it, it is true.
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Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 7:54 pm
Yeah, it does. A lot of girls at my school don't seem to get that. I mean, why do you think girls are raped or attacked? It's because they show so much skin, don't cover their hair, and wear tight clothes.
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Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 11:38 am
Well, most of my family and frends dont approve of what i say, but ...
i dont wear a veil sweatdrop ... ><;; its not cause i think its wrong or anything...no i respect all women who DO wear them 3nodding
but its just i feel like God is too forgiving to judge a person by whether or not their hair shows...
first i have to straighten up and tweak my soul and change it to the better and become a pure person cause thats the priority..
Though i dont make my hair seem attractive i just pull it all backwards and tie it soo yeh it looks normal..and i dont wear tight clothes sooo yeh thats fine right? sweatdrop
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Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 12:13 pm
is it a must to wear one?
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Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 6:49 pm
xx_Zara_Blingz_xx is it a must to wear one? Not a must, but it is highly suggested.
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Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 6:50 pm
sword_of_zelos Well, most of my family and frends dont approve of what i say, but ... i dont wear a veil sweatdrop ... ><;; its not cause i think its wrong or anything...no i respect all women who DO wear them 3nodding but its just i feel like God is too forgiving to judge a person by whether or not their hair shows... first i have to straighten up and tweak my soul and change it to the better and become a pure person cause thats the priority.. Though i dont make my hair seem attractive i just pull it all backwards and tie it soo yeh it looks normal..and i dont wear tight clothes sooo yeh thats fine right? sweatdrop Yeah, a lot of girls do that. My sister, aunt, and step-mother all don't wear scarves, but my mom and I do.
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Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 5:02 pm
x.X.Innocent Passion.X.x I mean, why do you think girls are raped or attacked? It's because they show so much skin, don't cover their hair, and wear tight clothes. I don't really think that the way women dress has much to do with whether or not a woman is raped. In many areas of the world where women dress very conservatively they are more likely to be raped than in the US. Sociologists and psychologists mostly seem to argue that because rape is about power and control over women, the key issue really is whether or not the men in the society respect women. It isn't about sex or lust, really. If it's a society where women can respect themselves and demand the respect they deserve, I think rape is going to be more rare, regardless of what they're wearing. And I also think that's the point of dressing modestly - everybody, whether man or woman, shouldn't be dressing for the purpose of attracting others. Internally that type of behavior puts into a person's mind, "Oh, I don't have value unless these other people think well of me!" I think the concern about women dressing in a sexual way to attract men just gets more attention than other kinds of dressing for other people. So, given that, I don't think that hijab is really necessary. Women (and men, too) should dress so that they feel modest, but I haven't been convinced by people who say there are specific requirements on what that means. Besides, have you seen the way some women look wearing fancy hijab with a touch of make-up and everything? It's way more noticeable (and sexual, I think) than going around with hair down or pulled back and no make-up. sweatdrop What's the point of saying somebody's modest for wearing hijab when they try so hard to flaunt what they're showing? Women wearing a loose t-shirt and jeans seem way more modest than some hijabi sisters I've seen.
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Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 5:17 pm
x.X.Innocent Passion.X.x xx_Zara_Blingz_xx is it a must to wear one? Not a must, but it is highly suggested. Well-uh... Actually, it IS a must. This isn't a matter for debate.. almost all scholars have agreed that hijab is obligatory on female adults, and it's pretty obvious, since it's said in both the Quran and the Hadith: Quote: “Say to believing women, that they cast down their eyes and guard their private parts, and reveal not their adornment save such as is outward; and let them drape their headcoverings over their bosoms, and not reveal their adornment . . .” (24:31) Quote: "A'isha (may Allah be pleased with her) reported that Asma’, the daughter of Abu Bakr (may Allah be pleased with him) came to the Messenger of Allah (may peace and blessings be upon him) while wearing thin clothing. He approached her and said: 'O Asma’! When a girl reaches the menstrual age, it is not proper that anything should remain exposed except this and this. He pointed to the face and hands." [Abu Dawud] sword_of_zelos Well, most of my family and frends dont approve of what i say, but ... i dont wear a veil sweatdrop ... ><;; its not cause i think its wrong or anything...no i respect all women who DO wear them 3nodding but its just i feel like God is too forgiving to judge a person by whether or not their hair shows... first i have to straighten up and tweak my soul and change it to the better and become a pure person cause thats the priority.. Though i dont make my hair seem attractive i just pull it all backwards and tie it soo yeh it looks normal..and i dont wear tight clothes sooo yeh thats fine right? sweatdrop Allah is fair. Although it's true that he judges with some mercy, considering our nature of flaw, and allows many to go to heaven purely through mercy, he still is fair. Everyone will be judged by their deeds. And Allah wouldn't make unnecessary hardship obligatory. Hijab is, very much, necessary, and Allah commanded the hijab conditions for women because he is the All-knowing and knows what is best for us. And the benefits of hijab have been seen by us. It's understandable that you haven't worn it yet. Like said above, you wear it when you feel like you're ready. But, excuse me if I sounded harsh up there. I take it a little personally when people kind of cast doubt on whether hijab is mandatory.. it shouldn't be something doubted, since it was commanded by Allah. Yes, in some rulings, times change and things are a little different, but not with hijab. Sure, less modest yet basic requirement-covering clothing is understandable in a more revealing world, where everyone is wearing clothes a lot tighter and non-existing than you, but it stays the same that it's the symbol of a Muslim woman to wear hijab. It's what sets them apart from the women to be messed with. It's what commands respect and says "Don't hit on me, I'm not a sex object." Wearing hijab is very important, and I fear like losing the principle of hijab obligation is like losing the strength that we have in fully setting ourselves free. I think that, all that I remember about how it felt not to wear hijab in my past, was sort of like practicing Islam in a cage..
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Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 5:26 pm
Gaheris x.X.Innocent Passion.X.x I mean, why do you think girls are raped or attacked? It's because they show so much skin, don't cover their hair, and wear tight clothes. I don't really think that the way women dress has much to do with whether or not a woman is raped. In many areas of the world where women dress very conservatively they are more likely to be raped than in the US. Sociologists and psychologists mostly seem to argue that because rape is about power and control over women, the key issue really is whether or not the men in the society respect women. It isn't about sex or lust, really. If it's a society where women can respect themselves and demand the respect they deserve, I think rape is going to be more rare, regardless of what they're wearing. And I also think that's the point of dressing modestly - everybody, whether man or woman, shouldn't be dressing for the purpose of attracting others. Internally that type of behavior puts into a person's mind, "Oh, I don't have value unless these other people think well of me!" I think the concern about women dressing in a sexual way to attract men just gets more attention than other kinds of dressing for other people. So, given that, I don't think that hijab is really necessary. Women (and men, too) should dress so that they feel modest, but I haven't been convinced by people who say there are specific requirements on what that means. Besides, have you seen the way some women look wearing fancy hijab with a touch of make-up and everything? It's way more noticeable (and sexual, I think) than going around with hair down or pulled back and no make-up. sweatdrop What's the point of saying somebody's modest for wearing hijab when they try so hard to flaunt what they're showing? Women wearing a loose t-shirt and jeans seem way more modest than some hijabi sisters I've seen. So Allah should've commanded us to remain plain and dull? I'd take hijab over "jeans and plain t-shirt" any day. The difference with hijab is that it removes the sexual appeal from looking pretty. One can still wear stylish clothes or clothes that let us express ourselves. And true, those hijabis who wear tight clothes and lots of makeup aren't following hijab correctly. But I will say this. I have never been hit on by male strangers, because I don't draw the attention of someone to be hit on or to have a sexual relation with. Well, of course, there will be those who will hit on hijabis just to make fun of them, but there are always bad people out there, and it won't be the fault of the hijabi since it was the guy's own malevolence that's at fault rather than the girl's revealed areas. And, I dunno. Your statements are dodging between two points. You say "Oh, people shouldn't dress to attract. People should be modest. People should command respect." That's what hijab does. Some very few may be able to pull that off internally, but following the requirements of hijab set in the Quran basically covers it all, both internally and externally. Also, hijab isn't only for preventing from lustful men. It's also a form of worship of Allah, a constant reminder of Allah. I think, sometimes... even, say, I was to leave Islam.. I would still probably wear hijab. Not saying I ever would, but that's how much I value it.
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