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LearningtoBreath63 Captain
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Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2006 2:12 pm
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Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2006 8:27 pm
Um...actualyy I'm not sure.I thought Christian was Christian.
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LearningtoBreath63 Captain
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Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2006 8:44 pm
-ekayu echimaryu- Um...actualyy I'm not sure.I thought Christian was Christian. It is, but there are types. Oops, I forgot to put Mormon on the list. Well let me explain. Christian used to be Catholic. Then England had a King who wanted to get a divorce and the Pope said no. So England created their own church, which is Anglican. So The Church of England and the Episcopalian church are Anglican. Then Martin Luther got mad at the Catholics and brok off making the Protestants. Now if I have that wrong then tell me, but I'm pretty sure that's what happened. So now we have different types of Christianity all believing in Jesus, but with differences in almost everything else. Confession, Babtism, the Pope, all that stuff.
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Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2006 8:48 pm
-ekayu echimaryu- Um...actualyy I'm not sure.I thought Christian was Christian. It is. The only main differences are between the Catholic church and the Protestant denominations. The Anglican Church is a spinoff of the Catholic Church. If you are interested in the exact differences, Wikipedia is the answer, my friend. The last 4 options aren't associated with Christianity at all, though.
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LearningtoBreath63 Captain
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Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2006 8:56 pm
Fast Lane Angel -ekayu echimaryu- Um...actualyy I'm not sure.I thought Christian was Christian. It is. The only main differences are between the Catholic church and the Protestant denominations. The Anglican Church is a spinoff of the Catholic Church. If you are interested in the exact differences, Wikipedia is the answer, my friend. The last 4 options aren't associated with Christianity at all, though. That's because this guild is welcome to non-christians too and I respect that. Now I don't think there are very many non-Christian, but that's what the guild is open to.
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Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2006 9:13 pm
LearningtoBreath63 Fast Lane Angel -ekayu echimaryu- Um...actualyy I'm not sure.I thought Christian was Christian. It is. The only main differences are between the Catholic church and the Protestant denominations. The Anglican Church is a spinoff of the Catholic Church. If you are interested in the exact differences, Wikipedia is the answer, my friend. The last 4 options aren't associated with Christianity at all, though. That's because this guild is welcome to non-christians too and I respect that. Now I don't think there are very many non-Christian, but that's what the guild is open to. Yes, I'm sure there are plenty of non-Christians in a guild for Christian music and Christian poetry, with a Chrsitian target audience, lol. They're really coming out of the woodwork here, L2B. Take cover! Just playing with you, man. I understand that there's a variety of people here, and I wasn't trying to say that others aren't welcome, I was just making an observation about the poll
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cherrilie__x Vice Captain
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Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2006 5:28 am
well...I picked otther because we believe what the Bible says and it's non-denominational
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Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2006 7:56 am
Es-kun well...I picked otther because we believe what the Bible says and it's non-denominational Wow, I'm also non-denominational (since God's Word is non-denominational and I hate labels), but I don't think I've ever met somebody who wouldn't even classify themselves as Catholic or Protestant. I don't really like to be affiliated with organized religion. I don't call myself a Christian most times. I "follow the words and teachings of Jesus Christ." I do so because the label of Christian has been beaten to the ground by those who proclaim Christ with their mouths, and deny Him by their lifestyles. The name of the Catholic Church (no offense intended here) can still leave a bad taste in people's mouths because of scandals and abuses of power. In my school, being a Christian and talking about it can get you harassed, threated, or beaten the crap out of. So I don't usually talk about it. I wear a t-shirt sometimes, keep a New Testament in my back pocket, and try to live the best example that I can.
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Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2006 8:33 am
well maby you could help me understand what i Am...
he recommends the 'King James Bible'
we believe in speaking in tounges
not much more I can think of if you can help me or need more info please say so... i really wanna know what type of church it is.
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Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2006 10:48 am
-ekayu echimaryu- well maby you could help me understand what i Am... he recommends the 'King James Bible' we believe in speaking in tongues not much more I can think of if you can help me or need more info please say so... i really wanna know what type of church it is. I can narrow it down to you're not Baptist... or at least not a conventional Baptist. I don't really know. Do you believe in giving confession directly to God, or being absolved by a clergyman for your sins. Ya know, there's really nothing wrong with having your own set of beliefs and not belonging to any particular denomination...
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LearningtoBreath63 Captain
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Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2006 12:10 pm
Well maybe I should have asked what type of church you go to? It doesn't matter. I was just curious of what the diversity religiously in the guild was.
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Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2006 4:29 pm
Non-denominational in the litteral sense. I really don't see what reading different Bibles has much to do with it cause it's one word, though I know of many who use certain translations as an engine for certain agendas, but thats something else completely... Anyways, I read the NKJV, KJV, and NIV, and when I can find one (I have to buy one for myself soon) the Message Bible.
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Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2006 4:54 pm
LearningtoBreath63 -ekayu echimaryu- Um...actualyy I'm not sure.I thought Christian was Christian. It is, but there are types. Oops, I forgot to put Mormon on the list. Well let me explain. Christian used to be Catholic. Then England had a King who wanted to get a divorce and the Pope said no. So England created their own church, which is Anglican. So The Church of England and the Episcopalian church are Anglican. Then Martin Luther got mad at the Catholics and brok off making the Protestants. Now if I have that wrong then tell me, but I'm pretty sure that's what happened. So now we have different types of Christianity all believing in Jesus, but with differences in almost everything else. Confession, Babtism, the Pope, all that stuff. You've got it pritty much right. Basically, before all that, everyone who believed in Christ as a Messianic Jew (which you might want to put up there too), or a Jew who fallowed all the rituals and laws of the Torah that modern-day Christians don't save sacrafices and was basically known as a Jew. Then, people began to have problems because Ceaser Worship was still popular and still, by law, you had to pray once a year and give a stone of devotion to a statue of Julius Ceaser or maybe the current Ceaser. Here, some Christians started to make theologies concerning this, making it okay (which is where John wrote the letters of Revelation concerning the presecution still holding strong in different places and where Messianic Jews gave stones of devotion to get away with not being killed, the penalty for not), as well as just all around being abused by non-Christians and the government. A while after 70 AD when the Temple was destroyed, Constantenople (the Roman Emporer, as the Romans had controll over Judaeh and the Northern Kingdom at this time (Israel)gave Jews the ability to believe in Christ legally (not the state religion yet. That wasn't for a while.) Not long afterwords, it because the forced state religion, so now the Christians were presecuting the others to take their faith. Still, to keep most of the world united, the Pagan Temples became Christian Churches, and the people still practiced their rituals and ideas, but Christianized. Thus, the Catholic Church was formed (the idea for Catholic came from a creed stating the Catholic (Greek for Universal) Church would be instated across the globe when Jesus Christ returned). This fit with the idea of Rome as the World Order, or Universal. Note that here many Jews and Messianic Jews were prosecuted in the name of the Lord for presecuting Jesus, thus that the believers of that time were both zealotic and being used, as the Bible Cannon, formed before it could be tainted by the Pope (or Father, who was to be the human mouthpiece of God) who was more a political figure than a father, was able to twist it so that his agendas could be fullfilled by fakes of Christ's words and the apostle's teachings, had made them do what he wanted. Then the Roman Empire fell for various reasons... Wont get into that. Too much Biblical reasoning as well as political powers... Then Chalmerage conquors the North, dies, and gives his three sons his kingdom. Here the Pope, who sees a chance to take back some lost power lost when the Romans fell, takes some terratory known as the Holy Popacy States, part of it being France and Northern Spain and Germany (who broke off to be their own type of Protestant state later on...). The Pope then became, again, a userper in the Name of God. It was here that Martin Luther (who was a diverse character I wont get into) basically studied the Bible and figured out that the Catholic Church was more of an engine for power than a faith, exploiting the people for money and reverence. He broke out of it and started the Luthren church, the first Protestant church. (I would like to say I feel that some Luthrens tend to take Martin's writings higher than the Bible itself). But even he told his fallowers to prosecute the Jews, and the still existing, though now a seperate entity to stay alive, Messianic Jews. Also note, that when King Henry the IIX wanted to divorce his wife, and the Catholic Church wouldn't let him, he broke off, made the Anglician Church or Church of England (which, really, in the beginning, was a less-strict Catholic Church). But when Protestants tried to flee into England, they were killed and presecuted there as well. Note that through every event, durring the Crusades, Dark Ages, Middle Ages, Renasaunce, the Messianic Jews and the Jews were presecuted. What Luther failed to note was that Romans spoke about the Jew's still being in God's plan. The whole deal we have with Anti-Semetism might have never happened, but it's still here... Anyways. Hope this helps understand the history of the Church a bit more.
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Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2006 4:56 pm
Wow... I just wrote a small essay on the the History of the Church... maybe I should turn it in for extra credit in History.
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LearningtoBreath63 Captain
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Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2006 6:23 pm
MaxstertheBard Wow... I just wrote a small essay on the the History of the Church... maybe I should turn it in for extra credit in History. Yeah you could actually do that. You could also go into more detail on the Anglican aspect. This shows us reasons not to deal religion in political matter and vice-versa. Which is why I don't want to ban every sin by law, because we as Christians need to learn to respect our religion as well as others and remember to respect other.
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