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(sniffles) This just makes me sad, ya know.

I guess many people do not wish to see Jesus as a simple, normal, everyday human being. And he was. He was human. And he did normal human stuff just like his fellows did during his time period. We can only speculate what 'a day in the life' might be like, though. I can understand why some more tight-fisted Christians would be upset by you even suggesting the idea that Jesus did normal teen boy stuff, especially that mastrurbation part.

Do not take it as proof that people today are more agressive and hateful. A single, personal experience does not prove anything. All it really says is that some people are defensive when things they hold dear are insulted (which was also exhibited in your own post, by the way).

I really do wish people would be at least a little bit more open-minded. I understand the girl believes in this strongly, but if people could see that not everyone believes the same thing, and that no one ever will, it'd just make things a little bit less hostile. That's why I joined this guild. I understand (and love learning about) that other people believe different things. Everyone professes love and then insists that they're showing it through hate. Now...I admit, I can be quite a pain in the arse sometimes. But I do try to listen, understand, and change when I need to. I just wish that people wouldn't defend in such a mean way what they believe. Simply stating what they believe is enough in my opinion.

Where did you post this thread? Someplace like ED, or someplace more suitable for such a discussion (since I am one of the heavenly godsent mods, I will use the example of this fine and wonderful guild), such as this fine and wonderful abode that I affectionately call RTG?

If it was someplace like ED, I would say that is to be expected. It is quite sad though, that this type of s**t is to be expected.

As for this showing that people are becoming increasingly aggressive/defensively aggressive: I would bet that this flame was not done because someone felt strongly about such an issue, but that some a*****e felt that it would be fun to flame another person for the simple reason of flaming them.

(Now to go a little off topic) The question you asked is one that I, too, often pondered. I came to two conclusions: conclusion one, if Jesus was truly god on earth, then he commited no sin, ever. Conclusion two, if Jesus was not truly god on earth, then he commited a sin, at some point in his life.

How I came to that was, actually, just now through a simple analysis of God.

God is perfect, this perfection causes his inability to sin. Sin, for this argument's sake, is simply defined as a mistake. Perfection means no mistakes; thus perfection means no sins.

If Jesus commited no sins, he must have been perfect. For Jesus to be perfect, he must be God. Since Jesus physically lived, and was seen living his whole life on this planet by others, Jesus must have been on the earth. Therefore, if Jesus did not sin, he must have been God on earth.

If Jesus did sin, he was not perfect, therefore he was not God on earth.

My philosophy: People are ignorant. wink Some more than others however...which is the downfallof society since it's always the more ignorant ones that get control somehow.

Yes, society(not depending on religion) needs social reform. So much so they I can barely stand to attend school. What would teenage Jesus do?

I did explain. She automatically apologized and asked to be friends but it made me think about how so many people jump to conclusions about other people before getting to know them. How many of you are Wiccans and when you say that people think "Oh my gosh! A witch! May the power of Christ compel you for you are evil-thinking!"? One of my best friends converted from Buddhist, to Christianity, to Wiccan (no clue what she is now, I just call her a trend-religionist/drifter) and she's an awesome person. Her views on politics and such are always well-backed, she's a very good listener, tries to keep her life clean but everyone thought she was some Satan worshipper (note: these people were definitely not educated in what religions believe what) and that what she believed was automatically condemning her to be a "bad person" just because it was different than their beliefs.
We need more religious tolerance in the world crying

To some, Jesus is the figurehead of all that is light and holy. He is more than a human, to them. He is the very image and avatar of God himself. Therefore, seeing him as possibly anything less than absolute holiness is a great insult to them. No disrespect, but these people are the ones that I call "overlyanalaboutJesus" types. They are usually intolerant of anything aside Christianity, and probably harbour some twisted feelings toward other Christians as well. However, it is completely understandable that one would love Jesus to a point of over-protection.