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Link_of_Hylia

PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 2:53 pm


I ask my dad, a rabbi, this all the time. "Am I a good jewish boy, father?"

This is a story I was making up to my brother about how Jewish teens, such as myself, think. A lot of times we look for purity. Looking for purity is a part of our culture. We don't want watered down coke, we want the real coke. We don't want salty cake, we want a sensational cake. We don't want a piece of heaven, we want all of heaven. Most of all, we don't want our spouse's to have had sex before marriage.

Did you know that 50% percent of families are split in two by divorce. Something we all have trouble with. My first hug to anyone other than my family was to my friend George. George was 10 at the time, and his family was in complete cival war. Chris, George's brother rebelled many times. And George many times was alone. That was because of a divorce.

And many times like George's the argument is worse. And sex becomes a hell on earth. Sex is meant for after marriage. It is meant as guidelines, not rules. God is so amazing. Do you know why? Cause he gives us the will to have sex and he gives us the choice to do it when we want to. But over, and over again, we miss what we say in the Synagogue. The Shema. God's greatest commandment. LOVE the lord with all of your heart, and to follow all of his commandments. And by breaking that commandment we disobey God.

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I've already had sex, I disobeyed God. I feel awful but now my marriage is unpure.
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Maybe this is what you didn't want to hear, but you blew it. Though there is one way. And that is to have your sins forgiven. One person of 3 can so that. The father. Adonai. The Son. Yeshua. And the Holy Spirit.

So if you want to hear God's word and discuss this please post in this forum. If you want to say something to me about my faith please PM me.

So. Are you a good Jewish Boy/Girl?
Am I a good Jewish Boy/Girl?
PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 4:03 pm


This sounds like the things the christians activists shout to my friend when she walks into work at the clinic... confused

Macaroni Jesus


kingpinsqeezels

PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 7:31 pm


I don't think a person is defined by the things they do wrong unless all that they do is wrong. It's unfair to generalize that your relationship will be horrible if you have premarital sex. Not that I condone it, I just feel it's an indiviual choice and that you should do what you think is right. I won't have sex until I'm ready, and I might be wrong, but that could be before or after I'm married.

That's just my opinion
PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 9:14 pm


jesus judaism has the whole god isn't really god he's really liek a ton of things GAH i hate that :: sits in corner and eats cookies all angry like:

YvetteEmilieDupont


The Original Sock Fairy

PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 10:09 pm


I believe that people can do whatever they want, be with whoever they want, and do it whenever they want, with their bodies. Its their bodies and they should not be judged by people on what they do with their sexuality. If they are good people what they do in their bedroom shouldnt define them as who they really are.
PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 2:46 pm


Suicidal Marshmallow
I believe that people can do whatever they want, be with whoever they want, and do it whenever they want, with their bodies. Its their bodies and they should not be judged by people on what they do with their sexuality. If they are good people what they do in their bedroom shouldnt define them as who they really are.


Let me ask you, because this is not directed towards people. Do you think it is right or ok or just for you not others, but you to have sex before marriage.

Link_of_Hylia


Link_of_Hylia

PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 2:48 pm


YvetteEmilieDupont
jesus judaism has the whole god isn't really god he's really liek a ton of things GAH i hate that :: sits in corner and eats cookies all angry like:

If you used some grammar to talk about your Lord that would help me a lot. Judiasm is commiting to God, not ignoring it. No matter if your Messianic Jew or an Orthodox.
PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 3:22 pm


Link_of_Hylia
Suicidal Marshmallow
I believe that people can do whatever they want, be with whoever they want, and do it whenever they want, with their bodies. Its their bodies and they should not be judged by people on what they do with their sexuality. If they are good people what they do in their bedroom shouldnt define them as who they really are.


Let me ask you, because this is not directed towards people. Do you think it is right or ok or just for you not others, but you to have sex before marriage.


Yes, yes I do. Infact, Ive done it already and probably will do it again in the future.

The Original Sock Fairy


darkphoenix1247
Vice Captain

PostPosted: Sat Oct 21, 2006 9:45 am


Link_of_Hylia
YvetteEmilieDupont
jesus judaism has the whole god isn't really god he's really liek a ton of things GAH i hate that :: sits in corner and eats cookies all angry like:

If you used some grammar to talk about your Lord that would help me a lot. Judiasm is commiting to God, not ignoring it. No matter if your Messianic Jew or an Orthodox.


You know, there are nicer ways to get your point across. sweatdrop I appreciate grammar as much as the next person, but a nicer warning might be a little better.


A note before this gets out of hand: This is a discussion. People state their own views; while they may not be the same as yours, respect them and don't turn this into a yelling match. On a similar note, don't presume your opinion is the right one and be unreceptive to others. BE OPEN MINDED, and please watch how you phrase things. Also, don't preach to others- they are many different forms and levels of Judaism, and some that are barely related to it at all. Just because something is right in your beliefs doesn't mean that everybody agrees.


To join in this discussion with my opinion (and I repeat- just my opinion, not law), I feel it is wrong to have sex before marriage, and I would be rather upset if my spouse did as well. What you do in a bedroom is part of your life- one needs to have enough self control to hold themselves back, and enough sense not to fool around randomly and get an STD or something. Besides, waiting makes it all the more worthwhile in the end; if you don't really care, why would such an act be any different when you're married, even though it's supposed to be holy?

However, I'm a little biased, as I hear all the time the personal life of random girls in a gym class at my school, and am moderately disgusted by it. stare


I hope nobody takes offense at anything I stated, and if you are offended, sorry- it was not my intention. sweatdrop
PostPosted: Sat Oct 21, 2006 11:13 am


Sounds like christianity strikes again to me. If you want to make a discussion about sex within Judaism thats fine but leave jesus out of it! The only thing Jewish about jesus was his origin (if he even existed) so if you wanna talk about sex then talk about sex.

Chava89


YvetteEmilieDupont

PostPosted: Sat Oct 21, 2006 2:36 pm


Chava89
Sounds like christianity strikes again to me. If you want to make a discussion about sex within Judaism thats fine but leave jesus out of it! The only thing Jewish about jesus was his origin (if he even existed) so if you wanna talk about sex then talk about sex.

Exactly what I think, thanks for putting it into words. mrgreen
PostPosted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 7:25 am


biggrin Your welcome!

Chava89


Akhos

PostPosted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 10:56 am


darkphoenix1247
Link_of_Hylia
YvetteEmilieDupont
jesus judaism has the whole god isn't really god he's really liek a ton of things GAH i hate that :: sits in corner and eats cookies all angry like:

If you used some grammar to talk about your Lord that would help me a lot. Judiasm is commiting to God, not ignoring it. No matter if your Messianic Jew or an Orthodox.


You know, there are nicer ways to get your point across. sweatdrop I appreciate grammar as much as the next person, but a nicer warning might be a little better.


A note before this gets out of hand: This is a discussion. People state their own views; while they may not be the same as yours, respect them and don't turn this into a yelling match. On a similar note, don't presume your opinion is the right one and be unreceptive to others. BE OPEN MINDED, and please watch how you phrase things. Also, don't preach to others- they are many different forms and levels of Judaism, and some that are barely related to it at all. Just because something is right in your beliefs doesn't mean that everybody agrees.


To join in this discussion with my opinion (and I repeat- just my opinion, not law), I feel it is wrong to have sex before marriage, and I would be rather upset if my spouse did as well. What you do in a bedroom is part of your life- one needs to have enough self control to hold themselves back, and enough sense not to fool around randomly and get an STD or something. Besides, waiting makes it all the more worthwhile in the end; if you don't really care, why would such an act be any different when you're married, even though it's supposed to be holy?

However, I'm a little biased, as I hear all the time the personal life of random girls in a gym class at my school, and am moderately disgusted by it. stare


I hope nobody takes offense at anything I stated, and if you are offended, sorry- it was not my intention. sweatdrop


what a great moderator.

Me personaly, im not attracted (emotionaly, like for a relationship) to a woman whos not a virgin, why?! i dont know. But who knows who im gonna marry.
Me ive been around the block and back, yes ive hade sex. But theres one thing your missing out. When you get married, you do it, whether youve done it before or not, whats the difference?........ love.
when i get married(if i get married) im going to make love to this woman, not care about the past or future, care about the present, and once youve made love, i beleive, there is nothing purer.
PostPosted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 1:14 pm


Akhilles


what a great moderator.

Me personaly, im not attracted (emotionaly, like for a relationship) to a woman whos not a virgin, why?! i dont know. But who knows who im gonna marry.
Me ive been around the block and back, yes ive hade sex. But theres one thing your missing out. When you get married, you do it, whether youve done it before or not, whats the difference?........ love.
when i get married(if i get married) im going to make love to this woman, not care about the past or future, care about the present, and once youve made love, i beleive, there is nothing purer.

>.> I also believe that >.>

gah i suck at this type of discussion. I mean I can't really say anything.
I think virginity is over rated though.
To much pressure is put on girls to be virgins. It's stupid and it causes alot of emtional brake downs that really don't need to happen. I mean the man I love doesn't care aobut what i've done or what has or has not happened to me. I think that if someone refuses to love you because you've had sex that's a bunch of bull crap.

Though I do think that we should all just go around screwing everyone randomly not caring or feeling anything. I don't like the people that do that.

YvetteEmilieDupont

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