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Universal Law

Anxious Bloodsucker

PostPosted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 10:53 pm


Originally my view on this fight was Blade would win no problem. As you can guess this was back when I was a rabid fan boy. Then it took a few people who weren't particularly nice about it to sway my opinion...**Secretly points at Q** But now I'm here to say that I believe again that Blade could beat Alucard. Here's why.

Ok of this is a fight right off the bat Blade would lose. With Prep time Blade wins.

Prep time allows Blade to get new weapons/viruses specifically designed to destroy Alucard as he does with pretty much all his enemies.

Prep time Blade could also get his hands on Aby's UV arc. It was described to be half as hot as the sun that's 500'000 degrees. That kind of heat would incinerate Alucard instantly. You can't regenerate from a pile of ashes because as I recall he needs to have blood to be able to regenerate.

I'm still not seeing how Alucard would defend himself against EDTA or the Day-star virus even though the Hellsing fans protest like hell against this.

Also I don't get how as someone who I'm not going to name put it." Alucard is faster and stronger than blade how is he going to touch him..?" Alucard's best feat of speed is dodging a bullet... The same as both Frost and Drake. Blade either has Bullet time reflexes, Close enough, Or beyond that seeing as he can keep up with and overwhelm people who do.

As for Alucard being stronger than Blade I don't see how anyone can say that when we don't have a entirely clear definition on either of their strengths. Alucard can rip people apart like wet tissue paper. That could only be as much as 5 ton class. Drake's strength in his Uber form was about 7 tons seeing as he could make a small crater in the floor just by slamming Blade in his regular form and Blade took hits from him. So why wouldn't he be able to take a hit from Alucard.

Also Alucard taking control of his mind.. As far as I've seen hes only used mental suggestion not domination and even then it was only on the common sheep. Blades will is beyond that of a pedestrian.


I understand that Alucard is bad assed but hes not a God even though he was able to defeat an very weak supposed god. Even in zero restrictions he hasn't really done anything to put him at the level of power some assume he is. I'm not trying to bash the character I'm just saying..


Against D it depends on when and where on which one would win. If it's at night time. D wins. During the day Blade would win because D's sun sickness (Which Blade does not suffer from.)would give him the necessary advantage.
PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 2:18 pm


The bit about him needing to regenerate is a load of bull and is merely speculation. That's why it was removed from the wikipedia article.

Can some one brush me back up on the Dawnstar so I can more properly adress that?

Also, D beats Blade Silly. He's waaay faster and stronger. With his longsword he has deflected/intercepted lasers on several occassions and knocked back a Megazord sized metal arm.

Count Omega
Crew


[demona316]

PostPosted: Sat Oct 21, 2006 10:02 am


a lot of stuff about alucard isnt shown in the anime so i wouldnt know in this case.

i dont know if alucard can walk in sunlight or not, and i have never seen him drink blood to regerate, i just have seen him drink blood to keep his strength up like a human would use food.

with d, it would be a much more even fight but d has the speed advantage
PostPosted: Sat Oct 21, 2006 2:35 pm


The Phantom User
The bit about him needing to regenerate is a load of bull and is merely speculation. That's why it was removed from the wikipedia article.

Can some one brush me back up on the Dawnstar so I can more properly adress that?

Also, D beats Blade Silly. He's waaay faster and stronger. With his longsword he has deflected/intercepted lasers on several occassions and knocked back a Megazord sized metal arm.

Doesn't Alucard go into a mummified state when he doesn't have any blood, like he was at the beguining of the series? Because if he's in that state it doesn't mater if he can regenerate or not.

Kamikazek-Z


Count Omega
Crew

PostPosted: Sat Oct 21, 2006 5:39 pm


Kamikazek-Z
The Phantom User
The bit about him needing to regenerate is a load of bull and is merely speculation. That's why it was removed from the wikipedia article.

Can some one brush me back up on the Dawnstar so I can more properly adress that?

Also, D beats Blade Silly. He's waaay faster and stronger. With his longsword he has deflected/intercepted lasers on several occassions and knocked back a Megazord sized metal arm.

Doesn't Alucard go into a mummified state when he doesn't have any blood, like he was at the beguining of the series? Because if he's in that state it doesn't mater if he can regenerate or not.

Yeah. He went twenty years with out blood, but that's hardly relative to this fight.
PostPosted: Sat Oct 21, 2006 6:10 pm


TPU are you saying that Alucard would come back from being turned into a pile of ashes?

Daystar virus: An engineered virus targeted specifically at vampires. Highly lethal and readily transmissible, victims typically exhibit choking, convulsions and some blackening of the features before succumbing within seconds.

And let me refriase that.

Novel D: Beats Blade like a drum.


Movie D: Gets his a** handed to him.

That better?

Universal Law

Anxious Bloodsucker


Universal Law

Anxious Bloodsucker

PostPosted: Sat Oct 21, 2006 6:12 pm


The Phantom User
Kamikazek-Z
The Phantom User
The bit about him needing to regenerate is a load of bull and is merely speculation. That's why it was removed from the wikipedia article.

Can some one brush me back up on the Dawnstar so I can more properly adress that?

Also, D beats Blade Silly. He's waaay faster and stronger. With his longsword he has deflected/intercepted lasers on several occassions and knocked back a Megazord sized metal arm.

Doesn't Alucard go into a mummified state when he doesn't have any blood, like he was at the beguining of the series? Because if he's in that state it doesn't mater if he can regenerate or not.

Yeah. He went twenty years with out blood, but that's hardly relative to this fight.


Yea and he also wasnt at full power without blood, Alucard stated himself that " Their kind" which would include him grow weaker if they do not regularily feed. He was strong enough to kill some normal humans without blood which really wasnt an impressive feat..
PostPosted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 8:51 am


I'm pretty sure that Plane stunt in Volume 5 would have reduced him to ashs, so yes, he can regenerate from ashes.

As for the Dawnstar, it didn't even kill that versionof Dracula who is nothing compared to Alucard.


And Ifull agree with Movie D point.

Count Omega
Crew


Universal Law

Anxious Bloodsucker

PostPosted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 11:32 am


The Phantom User
I'm pretty sure that Plane stunt in Volume 5 would have reduced him to ashs, so yes, he can regenerate from ashes.

As for the Dawnstar, it didn't even kill that versionof Dracula who is nothing compared to Alucard.


And Ifull agree with Movie D point.



So you've never actually seen him reduced to ash's before? The Daystar virus did kill Drake, how do you think he died?
PostPosted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 6:29 am


Enigma Master Andrew
The Phantom User
I'm pretty sure that Plane stunt in Volume 5 would have reduced him to ashs, so yes, he can regenerate from ashes.

As for the Dawnstar, it didn't even kill that versionof Dracula who is nothing compared to Alucard.


And Ifull agree with Movie D point.



So you've never actually seen him reduced to ash's before? The Daystar virus did kill Drake, how do you think he died?

If it killed him, it took him hours to die by it. Seeing as he was able to shapeshift into Blade and hold that form until an autopsy was performed.

Are you saying that a human body ridding in the c**k pit of a plane going past Mach 3 for over 85,000 kilometers wouldn't be in some way obliterated to nothing?

Don't tell me we're ressurecting Das' Asinine view on Alucard's regen.

Count Omega
Crew


Universal Law

Anxious Bloodsucker

PostPosted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 7:36 am


The Phantom User
Enigma Master Andrew
The Phantom User
I'm pretty sure that Plane stunt in Volume 5 would have reduced him to ashs, so yes, he can regenerate from ashes.

As for the Dawnstar, it didn't even kill that versionof Dracula who is nothing compared to Alucard.


And Ifull agree with Movie D point.



So you've never actually seen him reduced to ash's before? The Daystar virus did kill Drake, how do you think he died?

If it killed him, it took him hours to die by it. Seeing as he was able to shapeshift into Blade and hold that form until an autopsy was performed.

Are you saying that a human body ridding in the c**k pit of a plane going past Mach 3 for over 85,000 kilometers wouldn't be in some way obliterated to nothing?

Don't tell me we're ressurecting Das' Asinine view on Alucard's regen.


No..he transformed into Blade before he died. He only turned back because they broke the skin on his body causing him to morph back into his regular form. And please dont start that... And I'm not getting where you are going with that point.
PostPosted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 10:41 am


I'm pretty sure Shapeshifters return to their true forms when killed.

My point is, Alucard has been reduced to paste before in such cases and has been partially incinerated through fire several times. Does anyone happen to know the effects of concentrated UV light on humans?

Count Omega
Crew


Universal Law

Anxious Bloodsucker

PostPosted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 3:12 pm


The Phantom User
I'm pretty sure Shapeshifters return to their true forms when killed.

My point is, Alucard has been reduced to paste before in such cases and has been partially incinerated through fire several times. Does anyone happen to know the effects of concentrated UV light on humans?

I'm not sure. I thought that the red spiny monster was Drake's true form.

My point is I've never seen Alucard or any other vampire come back from being completely, not partially reduced to ash's and did the fire he was exposed to burn at 500'000 degrees?

In the movie both Whistler and Scud showed no ill effects from almost point Blank exposure to concentrateed UV light. So I'd say there are none.
PostPosted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 5:22 am


Then it would not affect Alucard because sunlight is not fatal to him.

True form, human form, w/e. Either way, Shapeshifting is a concious effort to maintain which is evidenced in most shapeshifters and supernatural ones tend to return to their true form when killed.

Count Omega
Crew


Universal Law

Anxious Bloodsucker

PostPosted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 9:27 am


The Phantom User
Then it would not affect Alucard because sunlight is not fatal to him.

True form, human form, w/e. Either way, Shapeshifting is a concious effort to maintain which is evidenced in most shapeshifters and supernatural ones tend to return to their true form when killed.


No no no.. I was describing a UV Bomb. The UV ark is ALOT different. Not only is it UV light but it burns at an insane temperature. Alucard would be effected like pretty much anything else.
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