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Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 7:03 am
True love or Obsession?
I just came from my Catholic retreat and one of the topics the priest discussed was true love and obsession. He said that obsession was the opposite of true love since obsession was an unreasonable attachment while true love has a sense of being able to let go. Obsession shows insecurity while true love shows you have faith in each other. Now, I’m just wondering, which GW relationships are built on true love and which are built on obsession?
To start with Heero/Relena obviously started with obsession. The alleged stalking and her constant following him around... Still, she eventually let up and let him go showing even a willingness to let him kill her when she was queen. I think, in their case, obsession sprouted into something that might be true love.
As for Duo/Hilde, I don’t see any obsession whatsoever. She let him go and fight despite her concern. Still, she tried to help him by stealing data but she didn’t directly meddle in his battles. She didn’t prevent him from leaving her meaning she had faith that he’d return to her. The love they share may be romantic or familial but I believe there’s love there nonetheless.
In the Trowa/Midii relationship, I’m not exactly sure. He left her without so much as a good-bye and she never got to tell him how she felt.
Wufei and Meiran were married but there’s no obsession or love there in the beginning. I have a feeling he saved her out of obligation because he didn’t want to be a man who couldn’t protect his wife. His tears over losing her do make me wonder if he ever really cared about her or was he crying because he was too weak to protect her?
When it comes to Zechs/Noin, a lot of fans accuse Noin of being Zechs-obsessed. I don’t really agree. I mean she basically let’s him do as he pleases even if he leaves her. It’s only near the end where she stops being a doormat, asserts herself and tells him she will stay by his side no matter what. Now that’s true love!
As for Treize/Une, this one obviously has obsession written all over it. Une’s loyalty and envy of anyone else Treize praises are concrete examples. Treize is no better when he uses her as a pawn and nearly drives her to the point of madness. Still, later you see his regrets over hurting her and calls her ‘his love.’ Still, unlike an obsessed person, he doesn’t dwell on it and instead thinks of ways he can make sure her ‘death’ isn’t in vain. I’m quite sure this is one of the reasons he quit Romafeller and was put under house arrest since he remembers her in Episode 28 which is centered around him in house arrest after quitting. Une improves as well after awakening. She doesn’t hinder him from fighting even if she knows he’ll be killed. She is willing to let him go and does things in his memory after he sacrificed his life. This explanation is longer than the others because they’re my favorite couple. Feel free to write your own opinions on GW couples and if they’re true love or obsession.
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Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 2:26 pm
I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that Trowa/Midii was true love that never got the chance to be expressed. I'm pretty sure that if they were ever to meet again, it would be true love. I think they would at least try to get to know each other again and most likely cement an attatcment to one another.
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Posted: Sun Oct 15, 2006 4:17 am
Well, you never know... A child's love is pure, right and Midii loved him though I doubt Trowa returned her sentiments at the time. If only she showed up again! Do you think the war killed her off?
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Posted: Sun Oct 15, 2006 6:18 am
Colonel Lady Une Well, you never know... A child's love is pure, right and Midii loved him though I doubt Trowa returned her sentiments at the time. If only she showed up again! Do you think the war killed her off? There is no proof of Trowa's/Nanashi's feelings, that's true! We have Midii's revealing thought bubble but Trowa's as alway says "..." But why do you think he saved her? The answer doesn't necessarily have to be that he loves her. But if you read the manga it is already obvious to Nanashi who is causing all the trouble. Before the bombing he "thought bubbles" to himself that Midii and her game necklace are the reasons for the defections of the soldiers and the luck the Alliance has in finding them. Why then is his first and only action to find and save Midii? heart heart heart heart heart heart heart (my opinion anyway mrgreen )
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Posted: Sun Oct 15, 2006 7:38 am
I don't think the war killed Midii off. She was a pretty good spy and her encounter with Nanashi probably taught her better ways not to get caught. i think it's just a matter of whether she'll ever show back up again or not.
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Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 2:54 pm
I think most of Une's posts are quite accurate.
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Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 12:42 pm
Never really thought about it
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Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 10:33 pm
I havent gotten a chance to watch the series for several years, so I have very litle usefull input sweatdrop . I don't realy think Heero/Realena is true love... or mabey I just think that because she's anoying and I hate her...Heero shoul have killed her when he had the chance twisted ...
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Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 11:19 pm
*Hides behind blast shield*
This is not the best guild for Relena-haters... good luck to you, Lolita.
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Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 2:17 am
LolitaNevermore I havent gotten a chance to watch the series for several years, so I have very litle usefull input sweatdrop . I don't realy think Heero/Realena is true love... or mabey I just think that because she's anoying and I hate her...Heero shoul have killed her when he had the chance twisted ... You're free to like and dislike who you want, but it's pretty shortsighted to act like the series would have been better had she died. Without Relena, nobody would have stood up to Romefeller, and the cycle of wars would have gone on forever. Besides, is she REALLY that bad? Heck, rewatching the early part of the show made me adore the fact that she's a sarcastic smartalec in the first few episodes, while most people are obsessing over how she's "stalking" Heero.
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Preventer Void Vice Captain
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Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 3:19 am
Heero/Relena: Obsession turned to love. ^_^ (of course *points to s/n.)
Hilde/Duo: True love from the beginning!
Trowa/Midii: I don't know how to respond to that one either.
Wufei/Meiran: I personally like Une's views on this. It's something good to think about. However, I think that he actually realized he loved her. Then his love and obsession (just a lil right? he did name his gundam after her if I'm not mistaken!) live on after that.
Noin/Milli: She actually does confess that she loves him in the anime. ^_^ I think it's love with only a lil obsession. But doesn't all love have a lil bit of that?
Une/Treize: ...I don't even wanna go there.
Hm...who else is there? lol I don't know! You tell me. ^_^
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Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 8:17 pm
Going back randomly to the Heero/Relena one, if you look at the whole series, it doesn't seem like true love or an obsession. Like Une said, obsession is not being able to let go. By the end of the series and in Endless Waltz, I got the idea that Relena had released she couldn't have him which is why she started searching for peace.
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Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 1:24 pm
Oreasa I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that Trowa/Midii was true love that never got the chance to be expressed. I'm pretty sure that if they were ever to meet again, it would be true love. I think they would at least try to get to know each other again and most likely cement an attatcment to one another. I agree, cuz in the comic seris Trowa shows that he trusts catherine unconditionally as he constantly runs off catherine always knows he'll return....its love..true love
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Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 4:13 am
Colette Longbottom Oreasa I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that Trowa/Midii was true love that never got the chance to be expressed. I'm pretty sure that if they were ever to meet again, it would be true love. I think they would at least try to get to know each other again and most likely cement an attatcment to one another. I agree, cuz in the comic seris Trowa shows that he trusts catherine unconditionally as he constantly runs off catherine always knows he'll return....its love..true loveUuuum.... I think Oreasa was talking about Trowa/Midii, not Trowa/Catherine. Technically, Trowa and Catherine are related (Episode Zero has some pretty strong hints) even if they are not aware of it. Unconditional trust is not shared only by people romantically linked, but also by family. wink
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Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2007 5:43 pm
For some reason Relena/Heero always made me think of an obsessive love. That Relena loved Heero but Heero was obsessed with Relena. o.0
But with the Wufei and Meiran case, I think he acutally loved her. :]
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