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Gemineye
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 7:37 am


I'm just wondering about this..I had a rather heated discussion the other night about this topic and it got me wondering what everyone's opinions on the matter are.
I'm not here for an argument, just opinions.

What's everyone's views on homosexuality?

Personally, I believe its wrong. now don't judge me, hear me out first. I don't go around bashing gay people because 'they are wrong'. I have friends who are gay, I accept them for who they are, however, I disagree with their lifestyle (and they know that, and respect me for not shoving it down their throat), but I don't try to change them.

To put it in another light:
I also have friends who drink constantly, I don't agree with this, however, I accept them for who they are. I don't agree with smoking, however I have friends who smoke etc. etc. etc.
I don't want to hear "omg you gay hater" "gay basher" "you're an ignorant f*ck". I just want to hear what other people think about this subject.

And if you're going to yell at me about my beliefs telling me how I'm wrong...then you're in a worse position than I am, thus becoming a hypocrite, you don't agree with what I believe and are thus trying to change it. please...just opinions no arguments.
PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 9:19 am


Omg. You close minded homophobe. I bet you commit hate crimes and roll marbles during gay pride parades to make them fall!

I mean... nothing. twisted

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 9:49 am


Grypesagon
Omg. You close minded homophobe. I bet you commit hate crimes and roll marbles during gay pride parades to make them fall!

I mean... nothing. twisted
rolleyes you're such a d**k xd
PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 9:54 am


psh. awefully obsessed with the word "d**k" for a homophobe aren'tcha?

ninja kay i'm done I promise. I'll chime in on a serious note when I have more linearly open time later.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 10:21 am


Grypesagon
psh. awefully obsessed with the word "d**k" for a homophobe aren'tcha?

ninja kay i'm done I promise. I'll chime in on a serious note when I have more linearly open time later.
I'm not a homophobe either xD
PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 12:19 pm


Superman is a d**k. domokun

Homosexual people really can't do a lot in ze world if you think about it. If your partner has severe brain damage and they want to cut him or her off the machine, you don't get a say in what happens to them. And both of you can't adopt a kid. So if something goes wrong, only one of you can legally raise that kid and the other person has little to no contact with that child. Even though you're as equally a parent of that kid as your partner because you helped raise him or her. .-.

I don't really care if people have a problem with homosexuality. I just hate it when people use words like f*****t or something like that. It's just like going up to a black person and calling them the n-word. It's rude, and above all, just disrespectful. How insecure do you have to be about your own sexuality to avoid people who are attracted to the same sex and made rude comments about their sexuality? And seriously...just cause someone's gay, doesn't mean they're gonna automatically like you if you're the same sex as them. Do you like every girl or guy if you're straight? No, of course you don't. It's same effing concept. .-.

And maybe I am a little bias, because I AM bisexual and I went through the "Wtf am I?" stage...but is it so unreasonable to give someone the same rights as a straight couple? Why deny people those rights just based on sexuality? .-.

Funny thing, I was walking Six Feet Under last night and it was the episode where some guy called David a f*****t and he did nothing about it and then you posted this topic today. How odd~ ->__>-''

I'll probably get flamed for this, but eh. .-.

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EagerEyes

PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 12:46 pm


The problem isnt that you think homosexuality is wrong. The problem is that you wont go somewhere because through the experience you "might start to accept gay people". That the small possibility of doing something may change your beliefs...thats LIFE. That is what I thought was ignorant. And when i said that "Women can vote now, slaves are freed, and people can interacially marry- times change" and you said that maybe some of those changes are wrong...well that makes me sick. And yes, I do think you're a d**k for that, and especially for posting a thread on a discussion that was between us, I do believe that is even more d**k-ish. But that's just my opinion.
PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 12:58 pm


Hmmm...

You know, I used to be quite homophobic. Being a smaller guy with pretty hair, I used to get flirted with by gay guys and it used to worry me. I was more worried that they might "turn me gay" xd Now I know that is silly but hey, I grew up having a very sheltered life ^^;

Now, many years later, I am quite comfortable in my sexuality and can quite easily say if I think a man is attactive or not and not worry if somebody things thats 'gay'.

As far as gay rights go, I don't know. As far as people go, they are fine. Sure some are hardcore flamers, which can get annoying but its only the rare few that are like that anyways. Its like that with any group of people though, some are just asses. Nothing you can do to change that xd

Now, I don't know if I say I would think thier lifestyle is 'wrong' per se... I know I don't go in for that kinda thing but who is to say what is right and what is worng. Its not like they are hurting any one other then themselves... no lube joke xd Now sure, you can take the whole bible says its rong thing too, again, not saying that the bible is wrong, far from it, but who is to say that they can think they are so righteous as to deem what other people do is so wrong if they aren't hurting others?

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 1:03 pm



Wouldn't you be an a** too and angry because of some things you can't do just because your sexual preference is different? .-.

The Bible also says don't ******** with people if they don't ******** with you or something like that... Isn't being prejudice to gay people "******** with them"? So isn't that contradictory? .-.

And wow, I'm really sorry, Eager. ->__>-''
PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 1:16 pm


lol, who was worried about getting flamed and why? xd

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 1:18 pm


Impresarioz
lol, who was worried about getting flamed and why? xd


Me because of a certain someone. xp
PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 1:51 pm


She seems to think I have something personal against her for some reason.

Though at this point I should after she got all petty but it really doesn't weigh enough in my verse to be concerned.

In any event. It's time I chime in here.

Homosexuality is a rather natural occurrance in most breeds of animal. Typically the most common appearances of same sex relationships are visable when the population of a species grows too large in an area. The animals will pair off with others of the same gender instinctively so as to cap the population growth for a cycle. I've always felt that with the planets over population issue that there was the possibility of an association to this instinct in humanity.

Socially there is very little difference in same gender relationships in comparison to cross gender relationships. The social dynamics are typically regarded in much the same way. Dominant personality conflict and subordinate inhibitive regression appear in similar ratios. Honestly the biggest variations come from the fact that they are treated differently in most regions. It's this difference of perspective coming in from the outside that causes the variations of focus. The difference of rights puts other strains on them.

Religiously... there is actually very little in the bible to substantiate a foundation that homosexuality is wrong. The book of Leviticus is the only book that specifically says "a man having sex with another man is wrong" but it was a book of laws initiated by the people of Judea in order to notably seperate them from Canaanites. Leviticus is also the book that says women can't speak in church and have to cover thier heads, that multiple threaded clothing (like jeans) are impure and those who wear them should be stoned. Jesus discarded the old laws of both Moses and men. Just as the bible noted that Jesus spent time with the harlots and lepers and poor and spared sinners from various punishments... it goes without saying that were he walking the earth now or then he wouldn't have frowned on the homosexuals. He'd be more likely to come against the church in opposition to thier judgemental behavior and thier governemental connections. If you really compare the romans and religious leaders of the jewish people in those days to modern america and christianity I'm pretty sure he'd be equally dissapointed.

All things aside... whether or not homosexuality is proper or improper isn't something any human has the right to pass judgement on. If you want to question it's spiritual implication then you should leave it between them and thier own relationship with god.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 1:53 pm


lol, well, gem specifically asked that this be just about peoples personal opinions and that there isn't supposed to be trying to change people's minds on it xd

Just cause he doesn't agree with you (potentially) doesn't make him or you any more right or wrong. Your views are yours and you are entittled to them.

I can understand why you might be guarded with the way things have been in b***h/drama thread though.

EDIT: case in point xd *goes back to read his thoughts*
PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 1:55 pm


Impresarioz
lol, well, gem specifically asked that this be just about peoples personal opinions and that there isn't supposed to be trying to change people's minds on it xd

Just cause he doesn't agree with you (potentially) doesn't make him or you any more right or wrong. Your views are yours and you are entittled to them.

I can understand why you might be guarded with the way things have been in b***h/drama thread though.

EDIT: case in point xd *goes back to read his thoughts*


funk you fan boy. xd

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 2:01 pm


*gets the funk out*

*dancing like a white boy*

xd
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