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 Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 9:08 pm
What do you guys think? It looks like pretty much the republicans are going to get pwned. Most people are predicting that they will lose a large majority of governorships, a majority of statehouses, and the house of representatives. Its a coin-toss as to whether they will lose the senate or not. And basically with democrats in control of pretty much everything except the presidency, it would kill off any real chance of future pro-life legislation getting very far.
It looks especially bad in the house, where it looks like they may lose up to 50 seats, where as before the latest scandal, it looked like they may have only lost 20. (Democrats need only 15 to gain control).
The Senate breaks down like this. Democrats need a net gain of 6 seats to gain majority. There are 3 seats which are extremely likely they will go democrat, 2 more that are leaning democrat, and a toss-up.
Most people thought that a majority of governerships would go democrat this year, now it looks like they could lead almost as much as 30-20.
A majority of state legislatures are expected to go democrat, mostly as a result of national republicans screwing up so bad.
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Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 10:50 pm
I say give it to them. They claim they can do beter. I want to see it. Thankfully its only for four years. And the liberla mindset is already diminishing in this country. Plus, we have folks like Rush, Mike, Neil, Ann, and many others. Sadly however...if things turn so demcratic, folks liek them would be silenced. I actulay see those crazy liberal in washington mackign this nation into the fascist state they are so scared of. I'm moving to ireland if that happens.
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Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 9:14 am
Tiger of the Fire I say give it to them. They claim they can do beter. I want to see it. Thankfully its only for four years. And the liberla mindset is already diminishing in this country. Plus, we have folks like Rush, Mike, Neil, Ann, and many others. Sadly however...if things turn so demcratic, folks liek them would be silenced. I actulay see those crazy liberal in washington mackign this nation into the fascist state they are so scared of. I'm moving to ireland if that happens. Since when has Democrats in power ever silenced Right Wing Political Pundits? Last I checked (which would be, what 7 years ago), Rush Limbaugh was just as loud when Clinton was President as he is now while Bush is President. And when have Democrats EVER tried to rule absolutely? (the Civil War?) Clinton didn't declare that anyone who didn't support him was "the enemy". But feel free to move to Ireland. Heck, I'm probably moving to Canada if the Republicans don't lose power.
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Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 12:03 pm
Oh for God's sake people, not this, "I'm moving if my party doesn't win" thing again! What are we, five year olds?
Is the US really hellish with a Republican President? No. Was the US really hellish with a Democratic President? No! It's all damned politics. Neither side is perfect, neither side is filled with demonic evil. Neither is going to make the US into a utopia, neither is going to cause the entire US to spontaneously combust (Just parts, and the parts will be different but equal depending on who wins).
I've really given up on caring who wins. Democracy's a great idea, and it works fine, but the individual doesn't matter all that much as far as who gets into office; Only the group. I'll vote based on the issues I care most about, which means I'll probably vote Republican, or maybe I'll vote for a third party. I mean, it'd be nice if a Libertarian won, but I'm not going to move to... Uh, wherever Libertarians are in power, just because my party loses. whee
Although I would consider Ireland just because I like Ireland. Or Japan! I think I'm going to move there in about two and a half years as an English teacher. 3nodding
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Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 2:09 pm
I.AM. makes me go smile .
Tiger of the Fire, you have to realize that if democrats slaughter republicans this year, as it is expected, it would likely be a decade or two before they got back into power. Incumbency is a huge advantage and takes a lot of momentum to overcome, the type of momentum the democrats have now.
Ohh, and I made a mistake on the senate part, it is now expected that democrats will take all the seats they will need to gain majority, and possibly one extra.
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Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 3:39 pm
I.Am Oh for God's sake people, not this, "I'm moving if my party doesn't win" thing again! What are we, five year olds? I decided I wanted to be Canadian when Clinton was in office. Do you have any idea how difficult it is to immigrate to Canada? sad Luckily, I live close enough to ride my bike across the border, but it's not the same...
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Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 10:07 pm
La Veuve Zin Do you have any idea how difficult it is to immigrate to Canada? sad Yes. Because my Aunt did it.
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Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 11:24 pm
karllikespies I.AM. makes me go smile . Tiger of the Fire, you have to realize that if democrats slaughter republicans this year, as it is expected, it would likely be a decade or two before they got back into power. Incumbency is a huge advantage and takes a lot of momentum to overcome, the type of momentum the democrats have now. Ohh, and I made a mistake on the senate part, it is now expected that democrats will take all the seats they will need to gain majority, and possibly one extra. A decade is all we really need. Its estimated that by then or a few more years there will be enough conservativ eminded democrats and republican sin the US to see that liberals remain the minority for quite some time.
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Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2006 12:25 am
Tiger of the Fire karllikespies I.AM. makes me go smile . Tiger of the Fire, you have to realize that if democrats slaughter republicans this year, as it is expected, it would likely be a decade or two before they got back into power. Incumbency is a huge advantage and takes a lot of momentum to overcome, the type of momentum the democrats have now. Ohh, and I made a mistake on the senate part, it is now expected that democrats will take all the seats they will need to gain majority, and possibly one extra. A decade is all we really need. Its estimated that by then or a few more years there will be enough conservativ eminded democrats and republican sin the US to see that liberals remain the minority for quite some time. Actually, the more conservatives there are in power, the more liberal the population as a whole tends to get (just look at the Sixties). And vice versa also. To have a healthy government/country BOTH liberals and conservatives must exist. Do you use a squishy keyboard? Or just type really fast? I'm using our squishy, indistructible keyboard, and I've noticed that I have a very similar spacing problem as the one you seem to be having (it not regestering my spaces where I think I'm placing them). Off topic, but it is 3:30am here.
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Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2006 12:46 am
I disagree. To have a healthy government both right and left must exist, but not necesarily liberal and conservative. Too much conservative republican is just as bad as too much liberal democrat. I honostly feel liberal republicans are just as bad as lieral democrats, but meh. I'm conservativ eminded, and most of what I've experienced with conservatism has worked as far as I'm conserned.
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Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2006 9:50 am
Tiger of the Fire I disagree. To have a healthy government both right and left must exist, but not necesarily liberal and conservative. Too much conservative republican is just as bad as too much liberal democrat. I honostly feel liberal republicans are just as bad as lieral democrats, but meh. I'm conservativ eminded, and most of what I've experienced with conservatism has worked as far as I'm conserned. How are right and left different from liberal and conservative in a political sense? Maybe my problem is that much of my experience with conservatism (like abstinence only sex education, the lack of government health care, the attempt to privatize social security) hasn't worked out well (or looked as though it would work out well) for me and the people around me? But liberals and conservatives both serve a purpose when it comes to governing. Liberals introduce new concepts and conservatives protect the older ways of doing things. Take say logging for example: There are probably liberals who believe that no logging ever should occur. But conservatives know that many people rely on their logging jobs to survive, as well as many people who need the products of logging. So, together, there have been new ways to log worked out (just logging some trees instead of clear cutting and growing trees in areas specifically for logging). Together, both have bettered something in a way that neither would have accomplished alone.
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Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2006 9:53 am
Actually I think Tiger is right, americans are actually moving to a more conservative position on most issues, in long term trends. While there are a few exceptions, the largest being the death penalty(I think) and gay rights. The question of more conservative or more liberal is different than more republican or democrat. Part of the reason democrats are making such large gains is because they are becoming far more moderate, there are a lot more pro-life democrats this year than there have been in a long time. Ex, the canidate and likely winner of Pennsylvania's senate seat is a pro-life democrat, as well as the democrat canidates for colorado and arkansas.(who will also both likely win.)
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Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2006 10:05 am
karllikespies Actually I think Tiger is right, americans are actually moving to a more conservative position on most issues, in long term trends. While there are a few exceptions, the largest being the death penalty(I think) and gay rights. The question of more conservative or more liberal is different than more republican or democrat. Part of the reason democrats are making such large gains is because they are becoming far more moderate, there are a lot more pro-life democrats this year than there have been in a long time. Ex, the canidate and likely winner of Pennsylvania's senate seat is a pro-life democrat, as well as the democrat canidates for colorado and arkansas.(who will also both likely win.) However, it has been widely shown that as the government moves more to one side or the other, the populus eventually moves to the other side.
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Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2006 7:10 pm
Waters, thats just it. We're not talkign abotu the govenrment. We're talkign about the population itself. The people as well as the govenrment will be of a more conservative mindset then they are now.
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