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Capitalist Revolutionary

PostPosted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 5:37 pm


I know what your thinking, and stop it. I know because I do.

So, me and a warrior were dueling, it was all in good fun. That was until, I got him down half way, and he had barely touched me. With me being a rogue, and him a warrior, it was odvious to me from that point what should had happend. Yet, all the sudden POP! 4k crit, I'm gone. I would had screenshotted the chat, but I wasn't thinking.

[Party] Zalvane: What happned?
[Party] Him: I executed
[Party] Zalvane: Execute? For 4k?
[Party] Him: Yeah, I do that all the time
[Party] Zalvane: Omg... I thought I was the damage dealer... T.T
[Party] Him: You suck. Using a [Blade of Eternal Darkness] caster weapon on a warrior.
[Party] Zalvane: It has DPS...
[Party] Him: LOL! Noob.


So, I feel so noobish, yet I have just gotten a deep hatred for Warriors. Not to mention Locks, 1700 Shadowbolts? Holy Shnat people. Rogue=No Damage?
PostPosted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 5:41 pm


dat b*****d

Lilmn


Capitalist Revolutionary

PostPosted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 5:44 pm


[lie=major]xD Not sure about that. He was a good tank... [/lie]

Oops!
PostPosted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 5:44 pm


Blade of Eternal Darkness
Binds when picked up
Unique
Main Hand Dagger
33 - 69 Damage Speed 1.50
(34.3 damage per second)
Durability 75 / 75
Requires Level 49
Equip: Chance on landing a damaging spell to deal 100 Shadow damage and restore 100 mana to you.
Sells for 4 Gold 67 Silver 96 Copper to vendors
Item Level 54
Source: Drop

Meh. It's a caster weapon, imo. The DPS is fine for you, but at that level, you can find better in instances. That really is a caster weapon...

Get new daggers. And tell me your spec. Many rogues can hit much higher numbers, they just need a decent specc.

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Capitalist Revolutionary

PostPosted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 5:49 pm


It is a caster dagger, I admit that. I can get better, in fact I am farming for the Barman. Just not alot of groups really want to kill him...

I am sub/combat specced. And I use a sword from Maraudon... something like 36 dps and +1 crit, dropped from the goblin boss. I use it offhand.

I have something like 0/23/21

All four of the % increases in combat.

Dodge, Parry, I beleive it's chance to hit, and dual weild specialization, and backstab spec.

Meh... I don't know the sub skills by heart.
PostPosted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 5:58 pm


Funkalicious_Dude
It is a caster dagger, I admit that. I can get better, in fact I am farming for the Barman. Just not alot of groups really want to kill him...

I am sub specced. And I use a sword from Maraudon... something like 36 dps and +1 crit, dropped from the goblin boss. I use it offhand.

I have something like 0/23/21

All four of the % increases in combat.

Dodge, Parry, I beleive it's chance to hit, and dual weild specialization, and backstab spec.
Your sword should be your mainhand, at least until you get two daggers that are much better then your sword. Slow weapon goes in main-hand, fast dagger goes in off-hand.

Your build sucks, it has no +damage in it.

A MUCH better build for your level would be:

http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=fhxbovkAoGcZxMx

These talents are key if you want to be doing any kind of damage:

Malice - Best talent in the game for rogues. Any rogue that doesn't have it, is a noob.

Lethiality - Malice improves crit chance, this improves damage.

Murder - Doesn't seem like much, but, imo, one of the most important talents in the game.

Improved Sinister Strike is great, because if you dont have it, you can only spam Sinister Strike twice in a row, then have to wait for energy. But, if you do have it, you can hit SS three times in a row. It actually makes a huge difference in your DPS, and with the added crit chance of Malice, one of those three is very likely to crit, plus it's very fast combo points. Start with Gouge, hit three SS, Eviscerate. That'll kill most non-60 mages.

Elusiveness is required for every rogue, imo. Master Of Deception is required for every rogue, there is no opinion included. Same with Improved Gouge, every rogue needs it.



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Capitalist Revolutionary

PostPosted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 6:05 pm


[-Max-]
Funkalicious_Dude
It is a caster dagger, I admit that. I can get better, in fact I am farming for the Barman. Just not alot of groups really want to kill him...

I am sub specced. And I use a sword from Maraudon... something like 36 dps and +1 crit, dropped from the goblin boss. I use it offhand.

I have something like 0/23/21

All four of the % increases in combat.

Dodge, Parry, I beleive it's chance to hit, and dual weild specialization, and backstab spec.
Your sword should be your mainhand, at least until you get two daggers that are much better then your sword. Slow weapon goes in main-hand, fast dagger goes in off-hand.

Your build sucks, it has no +damage in it.

A MUCH better build for your level would be:

http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=fhxbovkAoGcZxMx

These talents are key if you want to be doing any kind of damage:

Malice - Best talent in the game for rogues. Any rogue that doesn't have it, is a noob.

Lethiality - Malice improves crit chance, this improves damage.

Murder - Doesn't seem like much, but, imo, one of the most important talents in the game.

Improved Sinister Strike is great, because if you dont have it, you can only spam Sinister Strike twice in a row, then have to wait for energy. But, if you do have it, you can hit SS three times in a row. It actually makes a huge difference in your DPS, and with the added crit chance of Malice, one of those three is very likely to crit, plus it's very fast combo points. Start with Gouge, hit three SS, Eviscerate. That'll kill most non-60 mages.

Elusiveness is required for every rogue, imo. Master Of Deception is required for every rogue, there is no opinion included. Same with Improved Gouge, every rogue needs it.



Erm... I don't mean to sound noobish, but everytime I open that link, it sends me to a screen to pick a class, when I pick Rogue it has no talents in it.


Not to mention, what about the big bursts of damage from Ambus hand Backstab? If I am not using a dagger mainhand those are gone.
PostPosted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 6:09 pm


Which is why you get better daggers. The only reason I say sword is main-hand is if you dont have a better dagger to replace it. The rule of thumb is: Slower = main-hand.

To use that link, you have to open it, and then close the Gaia part of the window. Stoopid Gaia breaks the link.

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Capitalist Revolutionary

PostPosted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 6:15 pm


Ahh... Okay, that sounds good.

I see. I actually think that build is awesome, it's just that I have gotten so accustomed to see ambush crit, it's going to be hard to see it not crit, or even be there. Although, I guess that it's not worth Seal fate or any of the combat techniques.
PostPosted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 6:18 pm


Funkalicious_Dude
Ahh... Okay, that sounds good.

I see. I actually think that build is awesome, it's just that I have gotten so accustomed to see ambush crit, it's going to be hard to see it not crit, or even be there. Although, I guess that it's not worth Seal fate or any of the combat techniques.
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=ihxboekZGcZxMecc0o

That works fine also, you just wont get as much DPS as the Vigor build.

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[-Max-]

PostPosted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 6:20 pm


You can take the Improved Sap out of that build, and get Setup. That's actually better, but I ******** love Sap myself, and use it all the time, so I just give up Setup for Imp. Sap. It's just preference. ^^
PostPosted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 6:21 pm


[-Max-]
Funkalicious_Dude
Ahh... Okay, that sounds good.

I see. I actually think that build is awesome, it's just that I have gotten so accustomed to see ambush crit, it's going to be hard to see it not crit, or even be there. Although, I guess that it's not worth Seal fate or any of the combat techniques.
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=ihxboekZGcZxMecc0o

That works fine also, you just wont get as much DPS as the Vigor build.


http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=ihxboekZGcZxMecc0o


What do you think about that build? Does it look good?

Capitalist Revolutionary


[-Max-]

PostPosted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 6:22 pm


Funkalicious_Dude
[-Max-]
Funkalicious_Dude
Ahh... Okay, that sounds good.

I see. I actually think that build is awesome, it's just that I have gotten so accustomed to see ambush crit, it's going to be hard to see it not crit, or even be there. Although, I guess that it's not worth Seal fate or any of the combat techniques.
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=ihxboekZGcZxMecc0o

That works fine also, you just wont get as much DPS as the Vigor build.


http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=ihxboekZGcZxMecc0o


What do you think about that build? Does it look good?
That's the same build I posted. XD

You have to click the "Link to this build" button at the bottom of the page to change the URL. :P
PostPosted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 6:23 pm


[-Max-]
Funkalicious_Dude
[-Max-]
Funkalicious_Dude
Ahh... Okay, that sounds good.

I see. I actually think that build is awesome, it's just that I have gotten so accustomed to see ambush crit, it's going to be hard to see it not crit, or even be there. Although, I guess that it's not worth Seal fate or any of the combat techniques.
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=ihxboekZGcZxMecc0o

That works fine also, you just wont get as much DPS as the Vigor build.


http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=ihxboekZGcZxMecc0o


What do you think about that build? Does it look good?
That's the same build I posted. XD

You have to click the "Link to this build" button at the bottom of the page to change the URL. :P

ARG! xD

http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=fhxbovkIZGcZxMxc

Capitalist Revolutionary


[-Max-]

PostPosted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 6:48 pm


If you're going for Seal Fate, you should just get all 5 points. No point in just putting them in there if you're not going to get the whole thing.

Really, with this build, Ambush will still crit ALOT. And even if it doesn't, it'll still hurt like a b***h. Ambush adds 1 combo point, then you vanish and cheap shot, which is two, then gouge, which is three, then Sinister Strike or Backstab, whatever works for you, which will bring you up to five when you do it twice, then Eviscerate.

You can also blind them if you like to stun lock.
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