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Muslims and Christians:
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x.X.Innocent Passion.X.x

PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 10:01 pm


What's you're guy's opinions on inter-religious relaationships? Like friends, or married? Can they work out? Personal experiences, etc....
PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 11:55 pm


I think muslims and cristians and other religions can be great freinds in the least. Firstly i have a freind who is a protestant Christian but he is simply a really nice guy. He's freindly, he doesnt drink, doesnt smoke and a really good artist. He has an open opinion on things but he doesnt dwell on the differences of people and we get along with each other with no problems.
On the other hand...he and his type is only a fraction of the christians out there. I mean they have christians who, say they are but arent in ways that theyve nether prayed on sundays, they drink, and they smoke. These people only certify as christians because they have been baptisted.
I believe those to call themselves religious have to act through religous worship or in my eyes they are athiest.
But with other reilgions i have freinds who are buddist, atheist, sihk andquite alot of different types. But what you have to stop from the what the eyes of the media are saying that muslims "want you to change your faith to islam or you will rot in hell". We have to superimpose the idea of islam being inviting but never force them over. its thier 100% full choice, thier body, thier soul. I have litterally asked seriously and joked if they would like to come to Islam, and they said no. I let them be, but even so I am still thier freinds.
But on another note...there are a wole lot of different people out there and they are alot brutal minded to islam so i guess its jst a matter of finding the right type of people.

[Arcon]


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 3:53 am


I think its great when muslims, christian and jews are friends, i have many christian friend, i go to a christian school, they all are pretty supportive of my faith and interested, i just hope i am a good example, and one day they will look into Islam more. heart My best friend was is christian, and i love her, shes a great friend, and we dont talk about religion, we just have our friendship.
PostPosted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 3:55 am


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 3:16 pm


That's great!! I'm so glad I'm not the only one with other religious people as friends!! (doesn that even make sense? sweatdrop )
PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 5:41 pm


i live in canada i have so many different people or different religions, race everything under the sun as friends. the Come over for eid, we come over for diwali, easter, etc.. They respect i eat halal food so they make foods without meat to cater to that. Religion isnt a boundery for friendships.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 7:06 am


It's fine for you to be friends. But your very closest friend should be muslim, or so I heard.
PostPosted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 5:21 pm


.a.r.a.s.h.i.
It's fine for you to be friends. But your very closest friend should be muslim, or so I heard.


True. Because when you think about it...
Your closest friend can influence you to do things o.o
And by that I mean things that go against what you follow in the Muslim faith. So yah. True <333

Dalya


x.X.Innocent Passion.X.x

PostPosted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 3:53 pm


But shouldn't you choose your closest friends based on their personalities? No their religion? For instance, I personally know hardly any decent muslim girls. Most of them gossip or are really selfish, or just plain unfriendly, while most of my really close friends are Jews and Christians.
PostPosted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 12:39 pm


x.X.Innocent Passion.X.x
But shouldn't you choose your closest friends based on their personalities? No their religion? For instance, I personally know hardly any decent muslim girls. Most of them gossip or are really selfish, or just plain unfriendly, while most of my really close friends are Jews and Christians.


Same. Muslim girls = Loal ya rite.

My closest friends are NOT muslim xD I don't have any close muslim friends.. only like, barely. We see eachother sometimes at parties, but we barely hang out or talk except when we're at parties. We don't call or anything.. I have more nonmuslim friends who don't go to my school who I am still close friends with than muslim ones.

But at the same time, you shouldn't group yourself with them. Like it's said, you will be with the company you kept on the Day of Judgement, or something like that. Keep a company of good people, much better than a company of bad muslims if you ask me.



As for MARRYING... I don't think so. You can love someone and everything, you can be great to eachother, but the conflicts of differing religions will be a major problem, and I don't see how I, myself, could bind myself for the rest of my life with someone whose base values and beliefs are different from mine. I would never be able to get close to a guy like that spiritually without making compromises to my own religion, and I could never love a guy so much as to compromise my religion. My life > his.. and it always should.

Plus, not to mention the problems it would have on others. As in, the KIDS. It'll be like, the battle of the religions.. they'll be brought up in uncertainty, indecision, and confusion instead of a solid base.. with both parents both wanting their kids to be of their religion (assuming both of you are religious). And, supposing yo uboth decide to not involve religion in your kids, then they will grow up without the base of your religion, and with the base consisting of values you may have never wanted in them.

Yeah, it's nice to have a guy who isn't totally like you, but I really don't think marrying someone who's not on the same page as you at all is the best idea.

o_____o ^ _ ^

Dark~Halcyon


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 01, 2007 10:01 am


My girl is agnostic... domokun domokun domokun


...or what she claim. xp
PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 5:02 pm


Hmm, this is a question I found myself asking before..
Some of my best friends are christians, as well as some of my family, so I've come to think that the best of friends are those that inspire you to appreciate what God has done for you, and brings you closer to Him, as opposed to pulling you farther away.. And in that sense, it's only natural for your closest friends to be muslim, since that's what real muslims do.

The question I find even more interesting/important though, is who do you classify as a muslim, and who is christian (or any other religion)? (considering that it has been mentioned before that Islam has been the religion of man since the days of adam, just under different names (including christianity and Judaism) I believe that some people are practically muslims without actually knowing that they are. That of course depends on how you define a muslim; in my eyes the largest and most important part of a muslim is the core belief and the attitude. And after that comes the admitting of your beliefs. So, many people who are religious, even if they say they are from other religions, believe in Islamic beliefs without actually knowing it. The only part they lack is admitting that their beliefs are called Islam, and the aftermath that follows that. So in that sense, I think if your friends bring you towards the truth that is God, what they call their beliefs shouldn't affect your relationships too greatly...

KuwaitBoy


KuwaitBoy

PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 5:15 pm


Having said the above, I want to say that nobody can really replace a true muslim brother/sister. I remember once, I was at a talk about Islam, and I got a great feeling of brotherhood, sort of as though I had found a utopian society within those walls. They were the sort of people that understand our relationship with God, and are actively trying to improve it, the type of people who you really feel a strong kinship based on your beliefs.. It was a feeling I don't think I'll ever forget; a similar one to the feeling I hear people experience during hajj. Everybody seemed so eager to be the best people they can be, do the most right, help the most people who need help, and so on and so forth. I think that's the reason why nobody can be a better friend than a true muslim, cause a muslim is the only type of person who is understanding of and open about his/her relationship with God, and not close-minded/embaressed by it (which sadly, a lot of people seem to be); which means that that person's love for you is inspired by God, making them the truest they could possible be..
PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 6:31 am


As per the Qur'an, you're allowed to have friends in other religions so long as they are not part of a nation/religion that is at war with Islam "Allah forbids you not respecting those who fight you not for religion, nor drive you forth from your homes, that you show them kindness and deal with them justly. Surely Allah loves the doers of justice. Allah forbids you only respecting those who fight you for religion, and drive you forth from your homes and help (others) in your expulsion, that you make friends of them; and whoever makes friends of them, these are the wrongdoers." (60:8, 9)

And in regards to marriage, it is said to be something a Muslim should not do "And marry not the idolatresses until they believe; and certainly a believing maid is better than an idolatress even though she please you. Nor give (believing women) in marriage to idolaters until they believe, and certainly a believing slave is better than an idolater, even though he please you. These invite to the Fire and Allah invites to the Garden and to forgiveness by His will and He makes clear His messages to men that they may be mindful." (2:221)

Of course, that technically only speaks of idolaters.

Dis Domnu


Dark~Halcyon

PostPosted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 11:36 pm


KuwaitBoy
Having said the above, I want to say that nobody can really replace a true muslim brother/sister. I remember once, I was at a talk about Islam, and I got a great feeling of brotherhood, sort of as though I had found a utopian society within those walls. They were the sort of people that understand our relationship with God, and are actively trying to improve it, the type of people who you really feel a strong kinship based on your beliefs.. It was a feeling I don't think I'll ever forget; a similar one to the feeling I hear people experience during hajj. Everybody seemed so eager to be the best people they can be, do the most right, help the most people who need help, and so on and so forth. I think that's the reason why nobody can be a better friend than a true muslim, cause a muslim is the only type of person who is understanding of and open about his/her relationship with God, and not close-minded/embaressed by it (which sadly, a lot of people seem to be); which means that that person's love for you is inspired by God, making them the truest they could possible be..


But not everyone has people like that in their community.

I think there were few times when I felt that feeling. And, strangely, one of them was at Bible Club. Hehe... yeah... Bible club. At first, it was just curiosity that drew me there. Oh, and the pizza they served the first day.. I was hungry..
Then, it was the discussions we had. Being in a muslim community where discussing religion entailed awkward conversation, I was pretty enrushed to find these people who were so open and who were not afraid of discussing and yielding to someone of another religion.. OVER religion. Who spoke and listened.
Not saying I haven't had this experience with muslims. But only a BARE few, only the few I've met who truly practice the religion, both practice-wise and character-wise.. my two teachers, for instance. Discussing things with them, talking with them.. those are things I can never forget.
What you say is right. Your best friend should be someone who you can open your heart to. That isn't always a muslim, however.
Nevertheless.. what I would give to have a Muslim bestfriend like that...

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