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 Posted: Tue May 24, 2005 1:19 am
We've all heard those propaganda myths before. The martial art urban legends told so that it would make other, more effective arts, seem inferior. These myths usually attack conditioning, ground techniques, etc.
The most common one that I seem to hear/read all the time is in regards to the Muay Thai shin conditioning practices. Any time I mention Muay Thai to a practitioner of another art, they always say something along these lines. "Dude, be careful with Muay Thai. I heard that after so and so years, Thai fighters become crippled because of the harsh shin conditioning."
Now, which propaganda myths have YOU heard about yours or other styles?
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Posted: Tue May 24, 2005 3:46 am
The crap about Tae Kwon Do having no hand strikes.
Tell that to Grandmaster Hee Ill Cho, after he's broken your nose with the heel of his palm
Seriously, theres an entire CHAPTER devoted to just the different applications of a Ridgehand strike in the AIMMIA handbook.
I practice Tae Kwon Do - and I really hope you dont expcet nothing but kicks out of me, cause if so - then my fist impacting your jawline at high velocity is probably going to be the last thign you feel for about five to six hours.
Also the crap about Shaolin being the Kill-all Kung Fu style.
s**t, Tiger Kung Fu is scarier - those ******** fight like animals.
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Posted: Tue May 24, 2005 6:47 am
Yeah that has to be it for me too. "TKD people only use kicks". Total and complete bollocks, you just have to see pics of various grandmasters hands to see thats untrue.. callouses upon callouses...
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Posted: Tue May 24, 2005 12:10 pm
But all you guys do IS kick. lol
Seriously, though, you have to admit that most of TKD weighs heavily on the kicking aspect. Sure you have schools that incorporate hand techniques, but over-all, TKD is a kicking art.
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Posted: Tue May 24, 2005 5:45 pm
Bruce-Ganked-Lee But all you guys do IS kick. lol Seriously, though, you have to admit that most of TKD weighs heavily on the kicking aspect. Sure you have schools that incorporate hand techniques, but over-all, TKD is a kicking art. Really? Inall my sparrign matches.... I maybe threw one kick per match. -shrugs-
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Posted: Tue May 24, 2005 6:31 pm
Vincent Darkholme Bruce-Ganked-Lee But all you guys do IS kick. lol Seriously, though, you have to admit that most of TKD weighs heavily on the kicking aspect. Sure you have schools that incorporate hand techniques, but over-all, TKD is a kicking art. Really? Inall my sparrign matches.... I maybe threw one kick per match. -shrugs- Then I guess you weren't a good TKDist -shrugs-
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Posted: Tue May 24, 2005 8:40 pm
Vincent Darkholme The crap about Tae Kwon Do having no hand strikes. Tell that to Grandmaster Hee Ill Cho, after he's broken your nose with the heel of his palm Seriously, theres an entire CHAPTER devoted to just the different applications of a Ridgehand strike in the AIMMIA handbook. I practice Tae Kwon Do - and I really hope you dont expcet nothing but kicks out of me, cause if so - then my fist impacting your jawline at high velocity is probably going to be the last thign you feel for about five to six hours. Also the crap about Shaolin being the Kill-all Kung Fu style. s**t, Tiger Kung Fu is scarier - those ******** fight like animals. , I highly DOUBT you'd knock ANYONE out cold for 5 to 6 hours. Honestly that's enough time of being knocked out to basicaly give a huge indication of a subdural hemotoma. Basically you just bruised their brain badly. Well, anyone whos about your weight and not 50 pounds lighter. Sorry if this seems like me trying to be a d**k. But i'm tired of hearing people who actually USE handstrikes in TKD saying s**t like that. I mean really, so what, you use hand strikes and kick. You ******** better.
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Posted: Mon May 30, 2005 4:02 pm
Gank,
The Shin Conditioning has to be one of the biggest ones of all time. I know a 67 year old Thai instructor who operates completely fine, and has shins of steel. Now whether or not he justhas good genetics, is another question. But I have even heard of myths talking about people having to amputate legs off because of lack of circulation... crazy.
Same thing goes for boxing and having broken noses, or severe brain damage (insert Muhammmed Ali reference here).
Or Jujitsu and caulflower ears (only the idiots don't wear ear protectors, hehe).
Funny stuff.
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Posted: Mon May 30, 2005 6:47 pm
I'm tired of hearing some people (note: I said some people) who don't do and/or haven't even tried Capoeira saying that "Capoeira sucks because it's all acrobatics". Although some Capoeira schools do train acrobatics a little too much, there are a good number of Capoeira schools that steer away from and sometimes even discourage acrobatics. Capoeira isn't always all acrobatics!
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Posted: Mon May 30, 2005 10:20 pm
Thunder Foot Gank, The Shin Conditioning has to be one of the biggest ones of all time. I know a 67 year old Thai instructor who operates completely fine, and has shins of steel. Now whether or not he justhas good genetics, is another question. But I have even heard of myths talking about people having to amputate legs off because of lack of circulation... crazy. Same thing goes for boxing and having broken noses, or severe brain damage (insert Muhammmed Ali reference here). Or Jujitsu and caulflower ears (only the idiots don't wear ear protectors, hehe). Funny stuff. Dude, i need some Ear protectors... someone should hook me up... hint hint.
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Posted: Tue May 31, 2005 12:06 am
AxeFalador I'm tired of hearing some people (note: I said some people) who don't do and/or haven't even tried Capoeira saying that "Capoeira sucks because it's all acrobatics". Although some Capoeira schools do train acrobatics a little too much, there are a good number of Capoeira schools that steer away from and sometimes even discourage acrobatics. Capoeira isn't always all acrobatics! Indeed it is not, however most schools I've seen, as well as the common definition of capoeira, seems to openly claim that it has become more of a dancing art than a martial art. Much like most Wushu schools. Though this does not necessarily mean that they are not taught how to fight, I have heard that, for example, most schools have their students play the drum all of their first year, after which they will never have to play the drum again. While this may not be true for your school and may not mean that the capoeira-style is weak in any way, it does make one wonder. Never said it sucked though. There is no shame in pretty fighting, as long as it works, and I can't say I know much about the art as such.
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Posted: Tue May 31, 2005 5:47 am
Bruce-Ganked-Lee But all you guys do IS kick. lol Seriously, though, you have to admit that most of TKD weighs heavily on the kicking aspect. Sure you have schools that incorporate hand techniques, but over-all, TKD is a kicking art. Yes it does weighs heavily on kicks but you are propagating the same prejudis by saying all tkdists do is kick. Seriously tho I've seen quite a few tkdists sparring that very rarely kick, and they aren't bad tkdists, they just have a different style. I'm quite a lanky b*****d with abnormally long legs so normally go for the kicking thing (or should I say up till quitting tkd) but I still enjoy punching people in the face. I have a friend that also recently quit TKD and he loved wading in with his hands, and he wasn't a 'bad' tkdist either
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Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2005 9:24 pm
Has anyone heard of "Hikuta", supposedly this art was used by Egyptian Pharoah Bodyguards. Afterwards it was taught to "SUPER"Elite Commandos who never lost a mission. This style, if it even exists, supposedly could allow an average 120lb woman defeat a 220lb police officer. What do you guys think about that? I smell bullshido.
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Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2005 7:24 pm
Thunder Foot Gank, The Shin Conditioning has to be one of the biggest ones of all time. I know a 67 year old Thai instructor who operates completely fine, and has shins of steel. Now whether or not he justhas good genetics, is another question. But I have even heard of myths talking about people having to amputate legs off because of lack of circulation... crazy. Same thing goes for boxing and having broken noses, or severe brain damage (insert Muhammmed Ali reference here). Or Jujitsu and caulflower ears (only the idiots don't wear ear protectors, hehe). Funny stuff. I think peoples' misconceptions about shin conditioning is that they don't understand how it works or how to do it, because when the unenlightened mind thinks "Shin conditioning", they think "Beat the living s**t out of your shin bones" and not what it really is, which is a progression of light tapping of the shins, then gradually increasing the intensity of the tapping once you get used to it. they think if you do it, you essentially break your bones, but we all know that's not at all what happens.
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Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2005 7:35 pm
The Perennial I think peoples' misconceptions about shin conditioning is that they don't understand how it works or how to do it, because when the unenlightened mind thinks "Shin conditioning", they think "Beat the living s**t out of your shin bones" and not what it really is, which is a progression of light tapping of the shins, then gradually increasing the intensity of the tapping once you get used to it. they think if you do it, you essentially break your bones, but we all know that's not at all what happens. Actually I had never really known how conditioning worked. I'm glad you cleared that up, because now I feel like conditioning my shins. Honestly.
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