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 Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 5:43 pm
Please take a few minutes, read this, and honestly vote.
Please forgive me Veled if I come off as pushy and usurping, that is not my intent at all.
In the "Schools for teen mom's" thread, page 3, we got in this mini discussion that led to an idea you guys might want to try. Let me draw out my point in depth.
Pro-choice covers fertility rights, of course, but pro-choice is MORE than that. Pro-choice isn't just about a woman's womb, it's about males and females too.
At the crux of pro-choice is emphasizing a comprehensive, easily assessible, and user-friendly education so that people are empowered to make individualized choices concerning their personal lifestyle decisions.
Fertility rights and options, although a very integral and noble goal to impart adequate information and resources to women... is a part of the grander picture to include information on self sufficiency independant-living skills and family skills.
independant skills are essential daily living skills that everyone can benefit from, and everyone has got to learn at one point or another. We're talking about skills such as household maintenence, managing money and how to save money, cooking, job-related skills, social skills, etc. I figure this information could be most beneficial to older teens and young adults, who are just starting out in life.
Family skills are also essential skills relating to managing a family. A family is a diverse grouping of individual(s) and dependant(s). Single parenthood is by no means the only expression of what a family is, but I am hoping that especially the young single parents out there could benefit most from learning these skills, such as being the role of a carer, etc.
I figure that although we at the pro-choice guild may not know how to do all things, we must know SOMETHING that other members do not know about life skills. We can put our heads together and share some really helpful information on life skills, and then collect a library of skills that outsiders could read off of. I figure that this measure would not only provide essential, life-saving, time-saving, money-saving knowledge to the public, but that it would also help outsiders trust that our agenda isn't about "killing babies", it's about helping you, the community, and the planet.
Again, I emphasize that this is a shared project that anyone and everyone can participate in to help share some relevant knowledge on life skills. It could be a great way to foster more social networking and bonding amongst guild members.
Now, let me know what you think. If the poll does not adequately address how you feel, please do not hesitate to discuss here.
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Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 6:33 pm
On the fence. I like the idea and I definitely think that it is very tied in with the beliefs of the majority of the people here.
That being said, there are a HUGE number of issues that can be tied into the pro-choice movement. More than just home ec, there's political war crimes, laws that conflict with human rights, drugs, and all sorts of other issues that boil down to the same thing - BD protection (protection OF BD, not from... lol) and helping those who have made a choice with abortion (whichever that choice happened to be).
I think that the idea is excellent, but I wonder if it mightn't be a better idea to make a separate guild for home ec stuff and to have it be in some sort of "allience" with this guild, including a link exchange. To me, this makes more sense. I would also be willing to help pay for a new guild. We could have a fundraiser to pay for the new guild, maybe elect a person who would be interested in being Captain (we could have nominations and a vote, for example) or... I'm getting ahead of myself, lol.
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Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 6:36 pm
I support this completely. All of the aforementioned issues can easily tie in with abortion. Just imagine how many women feel inside or outside pressure to abort or keep a pregnancy due directly and indirectly to ignorance of the above.
And I never really thought about it until mentioned in the schools thread, but teaching Family Life as a core subject is a damn good idea.
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Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 6:37 pm
Toga! Toga! And I never really thought about it until mentioned in the schools thread, but teaching Family Life as a core subject is a damn good idea. Thank you biggrin Doesn't even have to be "family life." It can just as easily be "not having your parents to do everything for you and actually living on your own and having to keep yourself alive" class wink
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Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 6:38 pm
Kukushka I think that the idea is excellent, but I wonder if it mightn't be a better idea to make a separate guild for home ec stuff and to have it be in some sort of "allience" with this guild, including a link exchange. To me, this makes more sense. I would also be willing to help pay for a new guild. We could have a fundraiser to pay for the new guild, maybe elect a person who would be interested in being Captain (we could have nominations and a vote, for example) or... I'm getting ahead of myself, lol. This sounds like a good idea as well. We wouldn't want our guild to be hijacked too far. In guild, separate guild, website outside of Gaia, even outside of the internet, I'll be willing to help in whatever way I can.
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Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 6:39 pm
Kukushka Toga! Toga! And I never really thought about it until mentioned in the schools thread, but teaching Family Life as a core subject is a damn good idea. Thank you biggrin Doesn't even have to be "family life." It can just as easily be "not having your parents to do everything for you and actually living on your own and having to keep yourself alive" class wink Not a problem. Though a name change would be in order. When I hear Family Life I think of sex ed, considering that's the PC term my school used to name their watered down version of it. xp
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Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 6:49 pm
How about... Home Management?
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Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 7:19 pm
Kukushka How about... Home Management? Real World Management? Considering it would include job and social skills.
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Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 7:47 pm
I know how to bake. Anyone who wants a quickie on Jams, Jellies, cookies, Cakes, cheese cakes, etc (though no pies) I'm knowledgable at that.
I can also help with cooking, amateur though I am, I love to cook.
I'm an engineering student and a philosophy student so if ever you need help with Math, Physics, or need help understanding some cryptic passage/poem you just read (or something in it is bugging you but you can't quite identify it), let me know and I can help (and hopefully explain to you what I did so you can do it too!).
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Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 7:52 pm
Talon-chan I know how to bake. Anyone who wants a quickie on Jams, Jellies, cookies, Cakes, cheese cakes, etc (though no pies) I'm knowledgable at that. I can also help with cooking, amateur though I am, I love to cook. I'm an engineering student and a philosophy student so if ever you need help with Math, Physics, or need help understanding some cryptic passage/poem you just read (or something in it is bugging you but you can't quite identify it), let me know and I can help (and hopefully explain to you what I did so you can do it too!). You mentioned cheesecake heart While we're on the subject of discussing strengths: I am by no means an expert in anything, I am a high school sophmore. However, I can try to provide help in lower-level areas of subjects.
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Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 8:23 pm
I liked the ideas presented so far.
I, myself, voted that the life skills project would be a great idea, but I'm not sure if it should be IN the guild persay... I am not interested in hijacking the original vision that Veled has since I do have concerns about that... it is her ultimate decision to see if this project would complement, rather than compete with the goals inside of this guild. ALSO, Kush was right- pro-choice ultimately is concerned with a variety of other issues just as pertinent as self-sufficiency for young people. AT LEAST, it is exciting to see supportive interest backed up by this guild. Such a project is most successful with voluntary and enthusiastic participation from anyone who chooses out of the goodness of their heart, rather than just one person imparting all knowledge and resources. It would therefore be nice to come to a consensus. We are all leaders and teamworkers when it boils down to it. If we were to support this project, I plan to contribute in a meaningful way.
If we do have a seperate guild for that, (I was thinking about this idea earlier as well), then it would certainly be feasible to link up with the pro-choice guild as a sister one.
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Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 8:32 pm
I'm afraid I can't offer any useful contribution to the project itself, but I think a separate guild would be better than simply slapping it onto the existing one. It could cause conflict, etc.., but the idea of them being linked is a good one.
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Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 7:51 pm
Wow, I am delighted to see such positive response to this idea here in this guild! I really wish Veled could visit this thread soon, maybe I should drop a pm.
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Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 8:14 pm
You have my blessing and my orders to make this rock as far out as you can.
Pro-choice is, at its very core, pro-education. We cannot forget this.
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Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 9:53 pm
Excellent news! I was wondering if a sub-forum in the guild would sound like a feasible idea for this project. If not, I am open to further suggestions.
What should we have, people?
- brand new guild?
- a sub forum in pro-choice?
- a sticky thread?
- something else?
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