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Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 1:57 pm
Wow. I don't know how I missed this. But, as a DIEHARD HARDCORE AeriSeph fan myself for ever since like... summer of 1999, I have been a real AeriSeph fan.
Now, to all these narrow minded people who just see him killing her. Really wow.. I mean.. It just goes to show how sheepishmindedly people can be sometimes.
I mean.. can noone sit there and understand all of the little subtext stuff of 7, and still not be able to see any of this.
think about this.. Aeris was with Zack for a while. Zack was kind of like Sephiroth's right hand man for a bit... Is it not unfathomable they were acquainted? Just because they didn't really get into that doesn't mean it wasn't there... I mean... think outside the box here! I know that challenges predetermined ideas... but, when the people who made this game. there were only three characters in the beginning.. sephiroth, aeris, and cloud.
As for them not working because of the jenovah cells and her being an ancient.. there is a very good fanfic out there where she grew up in the human world.. and he grew up in the ff7 world. and the premise was that jenova came down from the heavens. and the ancients tried to help her.. but she observed how easily manipulated the humans were and she started preying on them. The ancients disappoved.. and being angry with them, jenova turned them on the cetra people.. then it happened that her son fell in love with one. and she ran into another world to escape him, and He could not follow her. And, for every generation afterwards from both of them.. they'd have to have a big battle. If the woman lost, she'd have to return to the world of ff7 and marry him.
Also, you know.. to the person who said if he'd take her home to mommy.. you must not have played all the way through. Because everyone knows that Lucretia was really his mother. icon_rolleyes.gif Jenova is only his mother if you consider cell injections through shots as a child as giving birth to.
so, if you fell into a bucket of radioactive material and got mutant powers.. that bucket of boo is then your mother? i think not.
Please read further down if you'd like to see more reasons that we like this couple provided by the hardcore fans here! Thanks.
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Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 2:15 pm
 Rules: 1. You must be respectful of the regs of this thread at all times! 2. No flaming of AeriSeph supporters will be tolerated. There are how many threads in this guild? Please take it somewhere else. 3. This is not a support thread for other couplings. Please do not go Yuffentine crazy, or Yuffeno crazy.. or stuff like that. I'm not opposed to other fan couplings at all. This is just not the place for it. 4. If you bring fanart or images or anything, be sure to have it sized so IT DOESN'T STRETCH THE PAGE! Seriously, Graceangel's biggest pet peeve on gaia is page stretching. If you have a long url, please use a web hosting shortening site, or hit enter after the tag, so the img tags drop below it to prevent page stretching!!!
Lead Thread Supporters: *** If you want to be in this list, you must be a full fledged AeriSeph Fan! Non fans can hang out here, but to be a thread leader, you need to really be a fan and support them. I don't mean in a way where you spam other threads for their sake. Just if you see people being haneous; use your common sense and best judgement. If you don't have common sense, just post a link to what got you riled up to begin with, and we'll back you up. *** Graceangel Jhay-R Mommy-in-a-box
General Non Fan supporters: schzoid_baka
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Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 2:21 pm
Welcome to the Aeris and Sephiroth Fan thread. This thread can be a home for all of us who are either fans of, obsessors of, or curious people of this coupling. This is NOT a thread for debating if they make a good couple or not. People who frequent this thread would be people who already moved past that point, and find them pleasing nonetheless. You don't need to be the uber fan to hang out here.. but if you get into a "but he killed her" fit and start spamming.. well, I'll have to talk to someone about having those posts removed.
FF7 Guild Aeris-Sephiroth Thread Compendium
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Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 2:30 pm
Graceangel Ritz_Freak I think this would be a good couple. Aeris would be like the person who helps him though everything hes going though. Once you think about it, Sephiroth did go though a lot when he was little and so has Aeris. would you maybe mind to delete your post and repost it in a few minutes? i wanted a few posts at the top for administrative reasons... so we can keep tract of stuff. I want this thread to be used a lot. Okay sure, I don't care.
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Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 2:37 pm
List of Links to AeriSeph Fanfictions: (this list will be broken up into classes. there will be three groups. each assigned by 1, 2, or 3 *'s. the more *'s the better the story. Also it may have a lot of chapters but a great read. Stories with only 1 * maybe poor character representation or poorly written.) *** Aeris and Sephiroth In LoveYinza's Corner of the World-Lots of fanfics here^i'd like to cite break me as one of my fav fanfics of all time in regards to the AeriSeph thing. It doesn't deviate from the game story too much. Throws in some reno action for ya. And, it seems to keep their personalities true as possible. Great read, but long and many chapters ** Irony of Fate with some preludes and afterwardsShort FanFic Assortments.^take note many of the stories here are yet unfinished... keep in mind if you take a look Another Great collection by * List of Fanart (individual or people's photobuckets who wish to share):
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Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 4:19 pm
Graceangel yeah. you gotta delete it or we get a crew person to do it.lol. unless you want to move some of the info into your post and help me manage the thread? that'd be cool if you want to do it?? Dumb question but how can I do that?
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Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 5:09 pm
Whenever Jhay appears (Im assuming he hasnt since he hasnt posted here) hes going to bust a nut. And on another note, did you need to get Chris' permission to make the thread? I personally allow these all the time as long as they arent repeats.
On topic though, this is an intresting couple that Ive heard a lot about from Jhay and various other members. Its definately stongly supported, though I do not incorporate this into my beliefs of the VII universe. Im more of a ZAeris person myself, but Im fine with this being a pairing.
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Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 5:10 pm
Ritz_Freak Graceangel yeah. you gotta delete it or we get a crew person to do it.lol. unless you want to move some of the info into your post and help me manage the thread? that'd be cool if you want to do it?? Dumb question but how can I do that? I took care of it. And for future reference, in deleting your own posts, theres a little [X] up around the Quote: button by your own posts. You can delete a post with that button.
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Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 5:11 pm
--This coupling is just plain creepy. I don't hate it, I don't love it. I respect the fans of Sephaerith. I just get creeped out by it. I mean, if someone thinks the perfect way to show his love is to stab the girl, then I don't want to know what his twisted sense of love is.--
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Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 6:22 pm
Lady Above me, we asked that you do not bring up the "Sephiroth killing Aeris," thing. You have to get passed that, and look at what could have been instead of what the Square team chose to happen.
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Heh, already have, Shuyin... Wait.... I didn't in my pants, but still...
Anyway, yeah, I'm probably one of the biggest supporters I know, along with Gracie, Yinza, and the many great writers who made this coupling work.
Man, I need to find, that long assed AeriSeph post I have, and post it here. That way, it'll be on the first page, and have everything in here.
Here we go!
Look, there have been other pairings similar to this if you remember correctly. In fact, both of them are in Samurai X, or for those who don't know, Rurouni Kenshin. In the first case, it is with Kenshin and.... For the love of God I cannot remember her name... I have gotta watch the movie again... Anyway, there was love on both sides of the coupling, despite Kenshin inadvertedly killing his love to take out the one he hated most. The second would have to be Shishio, and it's a bit closer to the AeriSeph coupling than the first. Shishio was an evil guy while the girl he loved, yet again cannot remember the name, was a bit nicer. She was evil, just a bit nicer than most of the other evil people because she didn't fight as much. Shishio, in the end, kills her in an attempt at trying to kill Kenshin while his Lover tried to stop them both from fighting, because if the fight lasted any longer, Shishio would burst aflame. Or was it burn out?
Eh... Now, I type this thing, over, and over, and over, getting kinda annoyed that no one ever reads it....
While Yuffentine holds the Fire and Ice chemistry, Aeris and Sephiroth hold both the Fire and Ice and the Kenshin/Kouru chemistry. You see, although Cloud and Tifa never truly become a couple in the game or movie, people still support it, along with the Cloud and Aeris coupling. With the Aeris and Sephiroth coupling, you cannot look at what has happened, but what had happened before the games start, and what could have been. Aeris had stayed with her mother in the same lab that Sephiroth had once been held in. Now, with that in mind, there is a chance that both of them had met at least a few times during the time they were held captive there. They may have met together, and may have developed something way before any of them could create their futures. Now, there are many routes you can take on this coupling, which is what I like about it. The main three I can talk about are here:
1.) Alternate Universe:
Ah, the AU... Now, this one is kind of tough, because you have to keep them in character, along with bringing them to another universe other than the FF Universe. So, let's say it goes something like this. Sephiroth used to have dreams of working in the Navy, but is now a high ranking gang member of, let's say, Shin-Ra, eh, can't come up with gang names... He never grew up with a mother, and his father had always brought him up in this business to take care of his dirty work. Sephiroth kidnaps a girl, because her father used to work with them before but had quit the gang after helping one of their captives escape. Heh, the girl is Aeris Gainsborough, a young an innocent lady who wants nothing to do with violence, only to help out her family and the world in any way she can. Seeing Sephiroth, she tries and make him a better person, and tries to get him to leave this business that he is in. They would be kept in character, and it is similar to the storylnie of FF7. You could go even this far. Sephiroth's a bully at a local College, and Aeris is the local nice girl at that College. Anything's possible as long as you keep them in character.
2.) After Death
Now, both Aeris and Sephiroth die by the end of the FF7 videogame. It is at least assumed that Aeris is brought to the Promise Land, I have never read the book or finished the game, maybe even proven she is in the Promise Land in the movie, but let's say this. Sephiroth could never be at peace, even in the LifeStream, so he was brought to the Promise Land so he could see what it was really like there. Meeting Aeris again, possibly the only one with the courage to meet up with him again, she could try and change him there, even after death. He would wonder why anyone would want to stay with him for so long, yet after a time, she would finally get at him. I have NEVER been too good at explaining AD... So, moving on to one I can do...
3.) Before Death
Similar to AU, but not exactly. Through the omnipotent power of the Author, let us say that Sephiroth had missed the initial strike on Aeris. Now, this is at the point at which the Author has most power. In one fanfic I read, Jenova had lost power of Sephiroth at that moment, and chose to use Cloud to kill Aeris because of it. Sephiroth, having a mind of his own again, protected her, yet kidnapped her and left. One that would be more common, however, is the next route. Either Aeris talks to Sephiroth and tries to get him to either stop, or makes a deal that if he takes her, that he'll leave her friends alone. When he takes her, anything from there is on the choice of the Author.
As for why they have chemistry, think about it. Sephiroth is not much of a bad guy, he is just a wounded soldier being controlled by his mother. Aeris is the kind girl that could forgive anyone for their sins. If Sephiroth were to ever need someone to be there because he wanted to repent, it would be Aeris. She, if anyone, would be the only person to accept him and let him be with her, nto because she is naive, but because she is kind and forgiving, just like Jesus. As for what they have in common, both of them are the very last of their kind, both of them had harsh childhoods, and both of them had either lost one or both of their parents or was raised by an unforgiving and abusive father. Aeris was able to grow up and become a better person because of it thanks to Elmyra, and she would possibly be the only one to bring Sephiroth back to the great and respectable person he used to be while he was a General, and not the hated and feared person he became once Jenova took control of him. And once you think about it, I forgot why it holds the Kenshin/Kouru chemistry. Kenshin was the wounded samurai of war, and wanted to repent for the sins he held, and Kouru was the girl that helped him with out with it. She gave him a home, and though he still had the evil side of him, she still lived with him and in turn, they both fell in love. The man thinking he did not deserve to love again, and the woman that taught him to live well again. Anything is possible as long as it's written well enough. With AeriSeph, only the best of Authors could make this work. A badly written CloTi is often chosen over a greatly written AeriSeph simply because they cannot accept it. If you gave it a chance, and read it with eyes unclouded by hate, you yourself may actually become an AeriSeph.
Well, there's my $5. And not saying 2 cents, because that's pretty long up there....
I'm Heaven Sent, but Hell Bound,
Jhay-R
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Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 9:25 pm
Jhay-R As for why they have chemistry, think about it. Sephiroth is not much of a bad guy, he is just a wounded soldier being controlled by his mother. Aeris is the kind girl that could forgive anyone for their sins. If Sephiroth were to ever need someone to be there because he wanted to repent, it would be Aeris. She, if anyone, would be the only person to accept him and let him be with her, nto because she is naive, but because she is kind and forgiving, just like Jesus. As for what they have in common, both of them are the very last of their kind, both of them had harsh childhoods, and both of them had either lost one or both of their parents or was raised by an unforgiving and abusive father. Aeris was able to grow up and become a better person because of it thanks to Elmyra, and she would possibly be the only one to bring Sephiroth back to the great and respectable person he used to be while he was a General, and not the hated and feared person he became once Jenova took control of him. And once you think about it, I forgot why it holds the Kenshin/Kouru chemistry. Kenshin was the wounded samurai of war, and wanted to repent for the sins he held, and Kouru was the girl that helped him with out with it. She gave him a home, and though he still had the evil side of him, she still lived with him and in turn, they both fell in love. The man thinking he did not deserve to love again, and the woman that taught him to live well again. Anything is possible as long as it's written well enough. With AeriSeph, only the best of Authors could make this work. A badly written CloTi is often chosen over a greatly written AeriSeph simply because they cannot accept it. If you gave it a chance, and read it with eyes unclouded by hate, you yourself may actually become an AeriSeph. Jhay-R I totally and completely agree with you. Even though I'm not a COMPLETE supporter of AeriSeph, I can really see it happen. I'll only read AeriSephs I.F.F. they have that kind of relationship like that. I've read some that were, uh... *ahem* poorly written.
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Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 11:07 am
I have started shaping up the top posts. I am wondering if ritz would be so kind of maybe edit her post? and maybe maintain it as a link out thread? maybe? don't have to.. but at some point, I'd like to keep the first page entirely related to AeriSeph content for people checking it out.
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Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 4:26 pm
ah well I'm not a big fan of this coupling but ya I just think that not everyone loves the same way for sephiroth I mean he wasnt really intersted in love in a romantic sense atleast sepiroth's love was more of for his 'mother' and taking over the planet and finding the promise land for her sake also I think if Aerith tried to comfort and help sepiroth he really wouldn't listen maybe if he didnt go all crazy they could've happened but then again if that happened ffvii would be totally different : D
another reason I dont like this coupling because to me it reminds me of seymour and yuna >< and I love kenshin but kaoru annoys me sweatdrop
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Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 4:43 pm
.[.pink.spider.]. ah well I'm not a big fan of this coupling but ya I just think that not everyone loves the same way for sephiroth I mean he wasnt really intersted in love in a romantic sense atleast sepiroth's love was more of for his 'mother' and taking over the planet and finding the promise land for her sake also I think if Aerith tried to comfort and help sepiroth he really wouldn't listen maybe if he didnt go all crazy they could've happened but then again if that happened ffvii would be totally different : D
another reason I dont like this coupling because to me it reminds me of seymour and yuna >< and I love kenshin but kaoru annoys me sweatdrop Well, actually, I forgot something in my above post... And your post reminded me of it... 4.) Defection This is possibly the darkest side of AeriSeph. This explores how FF7 might be if Aeris had either: A.) Been with Sephiroth since the beginning and was simply a spy planted into Avalanche B.) During her time with Avalanche, she went with Sephiroth. Either to try and help him and try and turn him back into a good guy. That, or she became evil and joined Sephiroth a while before Meteor. or C.) Was brainwashed by Sephiroth and turned evil that way.
Now, if you cannot see it actually happening, I would like to bring you to Star Wars. Anakin Skywalker, a great warrior, and a beloved hero. Yet, he was drawn towards the dark side because of personal reasons. He was a hero who became evil, almost in the same way that Sephiroth was. The same could be said for Aeris should the case come up.
Now, this is probably the one I am weakest on, but is the one I contemplate everyday of my life. If Aeris did not make Sephiroth good, but instead became evil and joined him, that would have made the game very interesting.... Very, very interesting...Now, there's another thing.
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