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Riffe

PostPosted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 1:46 pm


All right, I am a guy who is 15. I am a "normal" teenager. I am somewhat short and slightly overweight. But, I have a problem with a girl.

Most of my true friends are the kids my age at church. They don't judge me even though I am a dork (You never would have guessed, me being on Gaia and all) and they are all involved with sports. We go to different high schools because I live out of town, but we have all known each other since about 10-11ish years ago.

Last year at my first youth dance I found that I liked one of my friends. The "no dating until 16" rule must have created a barrier which this dance broke. I realized how truly attractive she was and I wondered why I had taken so long to notice it.

We are friends, but we don't do a lot of stuff outside of church. Sometimes we go to a movie as a group, we go to birthday parties and stuff, but I don't do a whole bunch with them. This is one of the reasons why I am so grateful that the church has so many activities for the youth.

Now I don't have a problem with the church's advise to teens about dating. There are too many pregnant girls at my high school because they get too involved too young. What I have a problem with is people who blatantly go against this rule.

A few months pass. I don't quite know how the events came to be, I believe it was at the one dance I didn't go to. There is a guy over two years older than us who started hanging out with us, more specifically the girl I like. He is an idiot in my opinion, a social reject from his group who must go down a level in order to get any respect. He has tried to get her to break the standards on multiple occasions, such as trying to get her to go to dinner with him before a dance. Instead of the parents refusing, and telling him what's what, they decide to compromise by going with them.

I don't know what to think. I don't know what she thinks. She doesn't seem to care much about any guy. I don't even know why I am telling you this. I just want some advice. Advice from those almost completely unrelated to the situation. Advice from people going through this.

Riffe
I guess that one of my main problems is the fact that she isn't very open about her feelings as far as I have seen. She refuses to comment on what she thinks about this other guy, but she goes on a lot more stuff with him than with me. And it is not because he asked. I don't know. I guess I can just think happy thoughts until I turn sixteen.

I also have a few reasons that I don't talk to her a lot.
1. We don't go to the same school.
2. I rarely sit with her at anything. (The main reason for this is that the other guy counts seats and makes sure he sits by her.)
3. Anytime we go anywhere in a car, she falls asleep.

I guess that I will just have to wait and see what the remainder of this final year is like. The deep breath before the plunge. /gandalf . Maybe it will all just blow up in his face.

Riffe
Alright, an update on what happened:

I actually was able to ride next to her on the way down. But on the other side was one of her other friends and so we didn't talk that much. The dance was at a branch way far out in the stake, so not many wards showed up. We dance after half an hour, but it was so short that all we really got to talk about is what superpower I could have. (In case you are wondering, it was either ninja skills or extreme mind manipulation.)

Will finish later.

Riffe
When we last left our hero, he was dancing with the love interest of the story. Let's find out what happens next!:

Alright so the rest of the dance, I flirted with her and messed around. We were the only ones that were really doing anything. I got tired, and tried to fall asleep in a chair, but the aforementioned guy unpinned the lights above me and woke me up. Then he tried to give me a "purple nurple". Jerk. I got up and pushed him into the wall, twisting his n****e cause I was trying to sleep. I was seriously about to punch him, but, I had my reasons not to:

A. It is the wrong thing to do.
B. She was around, and even though she didn't see the rest of this, she would have seen a fight.
C. I would have gotten my butt kicked...badly...

So I wrote it off as just playing with him. Have any of you ever watched Naruto? Ya' know that lightning stuff that goes on between Naruto and Sasuke in the earlier episodes. Yeah that's what happens between me and him.

So I resume me occupation with sleep until a song I recognize plays. I immediately ask her to dance with me. I don't know what the name of it is, but the lyrics were:

I don't want to run away, but I can't take it I don't understand.

Yeah, you know the song. I didn't talk to her the whole dance, I wanted her to hear the song because it pretty well described what I felt about her. (Well, not all of it.) Also, I was tired. But mostly, I was deciding whether or not to tell her that I liked her. Because of the advice of the people of this guild, I decided not to.

Riffe
Back at the dance---

So we were dancing, but I wasn't talking to her, however, I tried to make it clear I wasn't ignoring her. I tried to make eye contact, but she couldn't keep it. (Point one for the guys of the world!) In the car earlier, I had intentionally positioned my arm in a way that it would touch her to she if she was relaxed or not. She jumped/twitched, but seemed okay with it. So I tried the same technique on her hand. I squeezed my grip on her hand a bit, making it less loose. Her hand jumped but once again she was smiling.

The dance felt awkward, but I noticed something...She was smiling... I mean, she was smiling all night, but this was different. This was about me.

I continued to do stuff with her the rest of the dance, my dance with her reinvogorated me, so my occupation with sleep was gone. I didn't sit next to her on the way back, but she fell asleep, so it didn't matter anyway.

That night, I was devoted. I talked to my mom about it. (I have a very close relationship with her) I was committed to writing a note to her to give to her on Sunday, to tell her that I liked her. I wrote it. That's a step.

In the morning, during Sunday school, I said something to her sister about not knowing what Frogger was. (Seriously, I thought everyone had played Frogger, or at least heard of it)

Turns out that that and something else really depressed her sister, and later that day, her mom attacked me about it. Not something her mom would do usually, she's cool. Turns out I really really ticked her off. I apologized, but I still felt really bad. And I didn't know what she would think about me upsetting her sister. And I thought that she should still know what Frogger was.

After church, I got Frogger offline and sent her an e-mail apologizing again. This really helped. Turns out that some stuff in life had upset her and that it was not just me.

After Losing a bunch of Disposition points, I actually managed to regain above my previous level. How's that for extreme mind manipulation?
Whahahahahhahahahahhahahahhahahahha!!!

That's not even all of the story. I also found out that she doesn't like the other guy as much as I thought, it seems more like she could like both of us.

------------------------ heart And Riffe lived happily ever after until Tuesday Night. heart

P.S. I just realized that it was you that suggested I not tell her on the dance floor! Don't Yaaargh me!

Riffe
Well, it has been a while since I have updated this, but that is because nothing has happened really. But last night was another tri-stake dance.

The cool part of this dance was that these cards were given out with "Dance with someone that...
1.has a Different Eye color
2.has Same Birthday month as you
3.is in theSame Grade
4.in in a Different grade
5.is in a Different ward, same stake
6.has a different eye color
7.likes the same music as you
8.you think looks really nice tonight

I waited to dance with the girl until I had done all except number 8.
I told her that I thought that she looked nice tonight! And she seemed to be happy that I said it.
POINTS!!!
And she did stuff with me the rest of the dance more than she ever had.
POINTS!!!

"DOUBLE KILL!"

I'm now almost certain that she knows that I like her and there is a chance that she likes me too! BAM!

"KILLING SPREE!!!"


Riffe
PostPosted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 3:35 pm


For fear of erring and causing you more trouble, I have no advice for you, but good luck.

Xtagon


Riffe

PostPosted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 4:28 pm


Thanks for at least bumping it up.
PostPosted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 4:30 pm


Your welcome.

Xtagon


Riffe

PostPosted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 4:33 pm


Woah, people actually post on this forum!
PostPosted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 5:01 pm


No we don't. No one posts here.

I mean... dang.

But basically the deal is shes her own person and she has to make her own decisions. If she doesn't like this dude, then good for her (and you!), but if she does, well, good for her, but not you.

But anyway, you have to let her deal with her own problems. I dare say it'd be kinda rude for you to tell her that she should ditch this loser unless she asks for advice (or things take a turn for the worse, such as lowering standards, but thats a different situation).

The best thing for you to do right now is just let it be known that you are her friend and are willing to talk/listen (don't be overt about it, and don't bring it up just so you can bad-mouth this older dude) and don't let it appear that you have interest until you pass that magical 16 year old mark.

Ocarina654


Riffe

PostPosted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 7:09 pm


If I bad-mouthed this dude, and he knew, I would die. Anyway, everyone knows no one likes him except the girl and her sister.

I wanna be 16 sweatdrop .
PostPosted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 10:47 pm


Have you tried talking with the girl? I'm assuming you are on fairly good basis with her, since you mentioned being her friends, or at least in the same group of friends at church (Let me know if I'm getting this all wrong, I didn't read it very closely)
I wouldn't try and bring it up, especailly in a negative way. Perhaps try and find out what she thinks of it and if she doesn't really like the guy encourage her not to date until she's 16. But don't be pushy about it, people tend to want to NOT do things if some one is pushing them to DO them.

Hoped that helped. I can't say I'm an expert or even experienced with this sort of thing. I'm 19 and havn't been on an official date yet.

Silriel


Itesa

PostPosted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 6:24 am


As far as I know, the "no dating before 16" rule is a "no one-on-one dating before 16" rule. Meaning that at your age, you could double or group date. I suggest talking with your parents about the rule and how they interpret it.
PostPosted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 9:28 am


HOw long till you turn 16? How long until she does? Curiosity. Personally, being 16 for me was either a drag or scared me to death.

I have to agree with Sil. That's probably your best option. And it would hurt to get to know the guy more. Is he LDS?

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gotellurmom

PostPosted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 5:59 pm


All I got to say is: Join the freaking club.

That, and, the way I see the 16 rule (and most likely the Prophet, as I've heard him say this) is no pairing off at all until 16. When 16, group dates. Only when you return from your mission (or that age, if you couldn't go) can you single date.
PostPosted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 12:09 pm


Silriel
Have you tried talking with the girl?


*Bing!* *Bing!* *Bing!*
exclaim We have a winner! exclaim


Seriously. Even though communication doesn't always end the way we'd like it to, at least it ends.
We're such chickens as human beings, trying to prolong these inevidable conversations that will get us answers, because we're so afraid they're not the answers we want, so we do everything we can concieve of to get around it somehow to make sure we only get the answers we want. But all that will do is complicate things and draw out the terrible suspense. And probably muck up a chance you had at the answer you wanted to begin with.

Just talk with her, be as open minded and honest as possible.
Are you truly concerned about her going on this double date with her parents there, or are you just concerned about it because it's not fair you didn't get to go with her instead?
Before you know how to be honest with others, you have to learn to be honest with yourself. What is it you really want to accomplish by having this conversation? Do you want to simply let her know your feelings for her, (and likely that you're willing to wait on that until you're both 16?)
Do you really think this guy might have less than honorable intentions, and you want to do your best just to warn her, as her friend? Make sure you have all these thoughts organized in your mind, refresh yourself of your own intentions, and then, I'm sorry, but you're just gonna have to be completely honest with her.

kittylin


Riffe

PostPosted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 2:25 pm


Silriel
Have you tried talking with the girl? I'm assuming you are on fairly good basis with her, since you mentioned being her friends, or at least in the same group of friends at church (Let me know if I'm getting this all wrong, I didn't read it very closely)
I wouldn't try and bring it up, especailly in a negative way. Perhaps try and find out what she thinks of it and if she doesn't really like the guy encourage her not to date until she's 16. But don't be pushy about it, people tend to want to NOT do things if some one is pushing them to DO them.

Hoped that helped. I can't say I'm an expert or even experienced with this sort of thing. I'm 19 and havn't been on an official date yet.Wow.

I'd rather wait until I am 16.
PostPosted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 2:28 pm


Itesa
As far as I know, the "no dating before 16" rule is a "no one-on-one dating before 16" rule. Meaning that at your age, you could double or group date. I suggest talking with your parents about the rule and how they interpret it.


LCpl Carver Windhaven
All I got to say is: Join the freaking club.

That, and, the way I see the 16 rule (and most likely the Prophet, as I've heard him say this) is no pairing off at all until 16. When 16, group dates. Only when you return from your mission (or that age, if you couldn't go) can you single date.


I can't say that I agree with either of you. As long as I remember it has been no dating whatsoever until sizteen, but at eighteen you can single date. But you should reserve sreious dating until after you get back from your mission.

Riffe


Riffe

PostPosted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 2:32 pm


Glimare
HOw long till you turn 16?9 1/2 months. How long until she does?8 months Curiosity. Personally, being 16 for me was either a drag or scared me to death.

I have to agree with Sil. That's probably your best option. And it would hurt to get to know the guy more. Is he LDS?He's LDS but he is from a different ward. And he is a bit of a jerk. He is one of those people that right after someone says not to do something, he goes out and does it.
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