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Posted: Sat Sep 02, 2006 6:16 pm
At my school there's not alot of jewish peopel there. Just half-jewish and they have not a clue what judisiam is so there not excatly jewish I think. But what im trying to say is that many many times ive benn asked "Do you belive in G-d?" and im like oh my gosh why would you ever even say that so im just woundering have you ever been asked that and what was your responce?
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Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 5:38 am
first thing i want to say (and ppl plz dont kill me) there is no such thing as a "half-jew" if your mother is jewish, you are jewish, if your mothers mothers mothers mothers MOTHER is Jewish, you are jewish. If someone asks "do you belive in G-d?" say "That is not really any of your buisness now is it?" or some such. really they may be just trying to annoy you, or they may be curious. But Religon should not be a part of Public school. and you really dont want to give people any more amunntion then they alreayd have agianst us.
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Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 8:06 am
i dont go to public school, so if you DIDNT believe in G-d...then you were an odd one
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Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 8:07 am
Hmm.. I feel the opposite to Selina. If someone's really that ignorant, and they're not just trying to be a**holes, then I usually try to set the record straight for them.
Part of going to public schools is learning to get along with all sorts of different people. Matter of fact, in high school I hung out sometimes with a girl from Pakistan and asked her dumb questions all the time.
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Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 8:41 pm
Hmm... on the matter of half jews, I know one girl whose father is Jewish and whose mother was rasied as an Irish Catholic but did not believe in any of it. This friend of mine had a Bat Mitzvah, went to Hebrew school, goes to temple, and never writes out God (not even in English), among many other things. She follows the Jewish faith probably more than I do, and I was born to two Israelis (but then again, one of them is a Kibbutznikit xd ). I know the religion itself doesn't consider her Jewish, but personally? I do.
And when people ask them if I believe in God, I tell them I'm not sure. My opinion is, he may or may not be there, and I refuse to make definite statements on the matter. Though I have, on some very desperate occasions, begged the entity for help in my mind, so maybe I do subconciously or something. sweatdrop
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Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 9:48 pm
People ask all the jewish kids, atleast who I know, if they believe in god since alot of the kids who say they are jewish have little or no belief in god. When I was asked that I just never would respond because i found it just stupid to ask people that and wouldnt reward them with an answer.
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Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2006 7:37 am
Alina Sedai first thing i want to say (and ppl plz dont kill me) there is no such thing as a "half-jew" if your mother is jewish, you are jewish, if your mothers mothers mothers mothers MOTHER is Jewish, you are jewish. If someone asks "do you belive in G-d?" say "That is not really any of your buisness now is it?" or some such. really they may be just trying to annoy you, or they may be curious. But Religon should not be a part of Public school. and you really dont want to give people any more amunntion then they alreayd have agianst us. Yea but that in an Idealist's mind. Religion is always invauled in school. I mean at my school like twice a year there are these stupid prayer groups outside infront of the main entrance, and every now and then christian groups will hand out pamplets about why something is bad or why christ is real it's so stupid.
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Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2006 2:43 pm
Tis Mutiny! Hmm... on the matter of half jews, I know one girl whose father is Jewish and whose mother was rasied as an Irish Catholic but did not believe in any of it. This friend of mine had a Bat Mitzvah, went to Hebrew school, goes to temple, and never writes out God (not even in English), among many other things. She follows the Jewish faith probably more than I do, and I was born to two Israelis (but then again, one of them is a Kibbutznikit xd ). I know the religion itself doesn't consider her Jewish, but personally? I do. Like you said, I respect anyone that is attempting to be or is already part of the jewish community. To clearify for others - There are major complications that arise when you Haven't actually converted to become jewish (unless you got it through your mother). It doesn't matter how pious or devoted you are to god (aka. Jewdified, if such a word exist? sweatdrop ). It's not that this person is a "less-better-Jew" in anyones eyes, but I would suggest to this person, that if they really were serious about being jewish, then they should convert halachically - because if they don't, they could cause alot more damage than if they had just dropped all judaism alotgether. For example: When a guy gets married to a girl who's mother was not jewish, and the girl herself never actually converted, then her husband (who may be unaware), in terms of the Torah, married a Goya, no matter how observant she may be... And that is a grave sin. If a man is known to have done such a thing on purpose, he may not receive an aliya to the Torah, because he basically removed himself from klal yisroel by having relations with someone outside Klal yisroel. So to prevent this un-wanted uneasiness, and discomfort, it would be best to simply convert, by the samhus of a rabbi, and to enter klal yisroel without complications 3nodding . I know these words may be harsh, but they are important. If any of your friends are in this situation, at least let them be notified 3nodding .
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Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2006 2:49 pm
nathan_ngl Tis Mutiny! Hmm... on the matter of half jews, I know one girl whose father is Jewish and whose mother was rasied as an Irish Catholic but did not believe in any of it. This friend of mine had a Bat Mitzvah, went to Hebrew school, goes to temple, and never writes out God (not even in English), among many other things. She follows the Jewish faith probably more than I do, and I was born to two Israelis (but then again, one of them is a Kibbutznikit xd ). I know the religion itself doesn't consider her Jewish, but personally? I do. I respect anyone that is attempting to be or is already part of the jewish community. Though there are some matters that arise when you are not halachically jewish. It won't help even if you are entirely jewdified (does such a word exist? sweatdrop ) in your actions, you have to either have had it through your mother, or have converted. It's not that this person is a "less-better-Jew" in my eyes, but I would suggest to this person, that if they really were serious about being jewish, then they should convert - because if they get married, then their husband (who may be unaware), in terms of the Torah, married a Goya, no matter how observant she may be... So to prevent this un-wanted uneasiness, and discomfort, it would be best to simply convert, by the samhus of a rabbi, and to enter klal yisroel without complications 3nodding . Yea, that's probably what she's going to end up doing... though still, sometimes I feel bad, because as proud as I am of the Jewish culture, I'm not huge on religion, so it feels wrong that I don't have to do anything and she does. But I guess that prevents people who aren't completely serious from converting, just 'cause they feel like it for a day or something. sweatdrop and children of a Jewish mother are more likely to be serious about it. EDIT: also, even though guys can't marry a Goya, it's fine for me to, right? xp I'm not planning on it, but I do live in the U.S. right now, and if the situation arises... Of course, no matter what, my kids will get at least some education on Judaism, if not tons and tons of it. 3nodding
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Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2006 2:52 pm
Tis Mutiny! nathan_ngl Tis Mutiny! Hmm... on the matter of half jews, I know one girl whose father is Jewish and whose mother was rasied as an Irish Catholic but did not believe in any of it. This friend of mine had a Bat Mitzvah, went to Hebrew school, goes to temple, and never writes out God (not even in English), among many other things. She follows the Jewish faith probably more than I do, and I was born to two Israelis (but then again, one of them is a Kibbutznikit xd ). I know the religion itself doesn't consider her Jewish, but personally? I do. I respect anyone that is attempting to be or is already part of the jewish community. Though there are some matters that arise when you are not halachically jewish. It won't help even if you are entirely jewdified (does such a word exist? sweatdrop ) in your actions, you have to either have had it through your mother, or have converted. It's not that this person is a "less-better-Jew" in my eyes, but I would suggest to this person, that if they really were serious about being jewish, then they should convert - because if they get married, then their husband (who may be unaware), in terms of the Torah, married a Goya, no matter how observant she may be... So to prevent this un-wanted uneasiness, and discomfort, it would be best to simply convert, by the samhus of a rabbi, and to enter klal yisroel without complications 3nodding . Yea, that's probably what she's going to end up doing... though still, sometimes I feel bad, because as proud as I am of the Jewish culture, I'm not huge on religion, so it feels wrong that I don't have to do anything and she does. But I guess that prevents people who aren't completely serious from converting, just 'cause they feel like it for a day or something. sweatdrop and children of a Jewish mother are more likely to be serious about it. sweatdrop updated my post xd . About the part of "not being as observant" as she is. That is common, most people that want to convert are very sincere, and go with it full force. As for me, the struggle to understand why we want this, why judaism is important to us, was made easier by the fact that my parents were Hozrim bit'shuva themselves, so they brought me up with the same mentality they had.
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Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2006 2:54 pm
nathan_ngl Tis Mutiny! nathan_ngl Tis Mutiny! Hmm... on the matter of half jews, I know one girl whose father is Jewish and whose mother was rasied as an Irish Catholic but did not believe in any of it. This friend of mine had a Bat Mitzvah, went to Hebrew school, goes to temple, and never writes out God (not even in English), among many other things. She follows the Jewish faith probably more than I do, and I was born to two Israelis (but then again, one of them is a Kibbutznikit xd ). I know the religion itself doesn't consider her Jewish, but personally? I do. I respect anyone that is attempting to be or is already part of the jewish community. Though there are some matters that arise when you are not halachically jewish. It won't help even if you are entirely jewdified (does such a word exist? sweatdrop ) in your actions, you have to either have had it through your mother, or have converted. It's not that this person is a "less-better-Jew" in my eyes, but I would suggest to this person, that if they really were serious about being jewish, then they should convert - because if they get married, then their husband (who may be unaware), in terms of the Torah, married a Goya, no matter how observant she may be... So to prevent this un-wanted uneasiness, and discomfort, it would be best to simply convert, by the samhus of a rabbi, and to enter klal yisroel without complications 3nodding . Yea, that's probably what she's going to end up doing... though still, sometimes I feel bad, because as proud as I am of the Jewish culture, I'm not huge on religion, so it feels wrong that I don't have to do anything and she does. But I guess that prevents people who aren't completely serious from converting, just 'cause they feel like it for a day or something. sweatdrop and children of a Jewish mother are more likely to be serious about it. sweatdrop updated my post xd . About the part of "not being as observant" as she is. That is common, most people that want to convert are very sincere, and go with it full force. As for me, the struggle to understand why we want this, why judaism is important to us, was made easier by the fact that my parents were Hozrim bit'shuva themselves, so they brought me up with the same mentality they had. That's awesome. However, I was raised with a very non-religious mentality sweatdrop my mom really dislikes Hassidic Jews in Israel 'cause they don't pay taxes and such. In a way, I was brought up to have pride in being an Israeli, more than anything.
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Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 2:50 pm
People ask me if I am Jewish all the time. Recently I have some evidence pointing to the fact that my great-grandmother may be a practicing Jew (goyim don't keep kosher wine in the house, and there was some under the cabinet when she was staying with us .. then my mom lied and said that Episcopalians use kosher wine to try and cover it up, which is a total lie). I'm trying hard to research my the family history to confirm anything and so far I have no idea what my great-grandmother's mother's maiden name was.
But apparently I must "look" Jewish since everyone thinks I am.
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Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 2:52 pm
Yes too many times to count! I tell them I believe in G-d when they ask which one I say HaShem. They're like I've never heard of that G-d. It's frustrating to try and explain it to them.
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Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 3:02 pm
I think im the only jew at my school and i bet 3/4 of the school doesn't even know wat a star of david is.
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darkphoenix1247 Vice Captain
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Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 3:04 pm
The Jewish population gained 2 this year, bringing it up to around 10 or so. xd
It's annoying- in any other school in the district, or in a nearby district, there's a fair number of Jews! Yet my school is stupid and has almost none! xp
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