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Snow White Jinx Vice Captain
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 Posted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 3:23 pm
For those of you who heard about that guy confessing to killing JonBenet he just got released. Here is the article about why. Quote: John Mark Karr freed in JonBenet case AP - 30 minutes ago BOULDER, Colo. - Prosecutors abruptly dropped their case Monday against John Mark Karr in the slaying of JonBenet Ramsey, saying DNA tests failed to put him at the scene despite his repeated insistence he killed the 6-year-old beauty queen. The move came just a week and a half after the 41-year-old schoolteacher was arrested in Thailand and put on a plane to the U.S. in what was regarded as a remarkable break in the decade-old murder mystery that had cast suspicion on JonBenet's parents.
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Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 7:30 pm
That's strange. Wouldn't they keep him if he said he'd done it, even if there was a lack of evidence? I'm confused!
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Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 1:21 pm
Well here's my idea about this.
First off I think it was the parents. Mainly because her mother put so much pressure on her, from what I could see, there didn't seem to be much 'saddness' coming from them and it always felt to me half-felt-heartness whenever they spoke.
Now as for this guy. There could be many reasons why he claimed to be the person who did it.
Mainly not being fully stable, perhaps in his mind he was the person who did. This could of came about many ways, e.g. there are people who have such extreme dreams, that they believe that they did something when in truth they never did it. With repeated dreams like that, it could come down to the point he really felt like he did.
He really could of killed a young girl who was pretty much like her, and believed it to have been her. (never know with some people)
Then there is also the dream and hope of someone being remembered, he could have a fear of dying and being forgotten, hence if he claimed such a thing, he would at least be recorded in history. (at least for a little while) For most people, death is scary, they want to leave their mark on the world somehow and for most they don't care how they leave their mark...
These are just ideas around it and why they could of let him go. DNA is perhaps one of the best ways to prove something and if the DNA proves he wasn't there, then it makes it really hard to say "alright" however personally I'm surprise they let him go anyways... mainly because to me it always seems like people want to put the blame on someone and it doesn't matter who it is as long as someone is punished for it.
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Posted: Sat Sep 02, 2006 6:59 am
I say dont be so quick at judging parents in a crime. Sometimes theyll look like they dont care, but try to be under the spotlight like that, when youre already in total shock.... I wouldnt be crying my heart out it if was me, id just be extremely confused as to what the hell is going on!!
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Posted: Sat Sep 02, 2006 10:19 am
Yes sometimes the shock can do that, however, I still stand by what I believe. From things in the news, to what the cops said and the clues, nothing seemed to say 'maybe someone else did it' to me.
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Posted: Sat Sep 02, 2006 10:20 am
I don't know. I don't think any parent in their right mind would ever harm their child that way...I mean, have you read what actually happened to her? It's absolutely sickening.
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Posted: Sat Sep 02, 2006 11:00 am
I don't know enough to say my guess. xD
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Posted: Sat Sep 02, 2006 1:18 pm
you know who killed her? i think it was her parents.
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Posted: Sat Sep 02, 2006 4:25 pm
It could have been. But if it was them scream they need to be slapped...a million times.
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Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 5:28 pm
The Placebo Pixie I don't know. I don't think any parent in their right mind would ever harm their child that way...I mean, have you read what actually happened to her? It's absolutely sickening. You know how many children a day have such things done to them by their parents? 5 to 6 a day... heck I come from an such a family. I heard some awful stories, mainly kids who are abuse end up taken their own lives in the end of it all. Because they believe people don't care. I'm just lucky I was able to meet one of my best friends before I became one of those numbers.
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Snow White Jinx Vice Captain
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Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 8:20 am
Kittie-sama The Placebo Pixie I don't know. I don't think any parent in their right mind would ever harm their child that way...I mean, have you read what actually happened to her? It's absolutely sickening. You know how many children a day have such things done to them by their parents? 5 to 6 a day... heck I come from an such a family. I heard some awful stories, mainly kids who are abuse end up taken their own lives in the end of it all. Because they believe people don't care. I'm just lucky I was able to meet one of my best friends before I became one of those numbers. You'd be surpirized what people can do to thier own flesh and blood... I read about a murder where the mother thought she heard voices telling her that her new born baby was a demon and would bring the end of the world if she didn't kill it so she put the baby on a cutting board in the kitchen and chopped it's head off, obviously she had mental problems.... and kids with perfectionist parents get beat all the time if they make one mistake so it's possible that JonBennet was doing something below her parents standers and the punishment got out of hand... people with rage problems have a hard time stopping what they are doing, its possible they could have been perfectionists with some anger problems. They obviously expected alot from the poor girl... I remember seeing something on the news about how the parents might have had her go in for a nose job, they were comparing older pics with the most recent before she died and honestly its a possiblity they made her get a nose job to look better...its sad what people will do to thier kids for money.
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Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 8:24 am
Kittie-sama Well here's my idea about this. First off I think it was the parents. Mainly because her mother put so much pressure on her, from what I could see, there didn't seem to be much 'saddness' coming from them and it always felt to me half-felt-heartness whenever they spoke. Now as for this guy. There could be many reasons why he claimed to be the person who did it. Mainly not being fully stable, perhaps in his mind he was the person who did. This could of came about many ways, e.g. there are people who have such extreme dreams, that they believe that they did something when in truth they never did it. With repeated dreams like that, it could come down to the point he really felt like he did. He really could of killed a young girl who was pretty much like her, and believed it to have been her. (never know with some people) Then there is also the dream and hope of someone being remembered, he could have a fear of dying and being forgotten, hence if he claimed such a thing, he would at least be recorded in history. (at least for a little while) For most people, death is scary, they want to leave their mark on the world somehow and for most they don't care how they leave their mark... These are just ideas around it and why they could of let him go. DNA is perhaps one of the best ways to prove something and if the DNA proves he wasn't there, then it makes it really hard to say "alright" however personally I'm surprise they let him go anyways... mainly because to me it always seems like people want to put the blame on someone and it doesn't matter who it is as long as someone is punished for it. I agree. I was thinking the same thing, that he either murdered another girl thinking it was JonBennet because mabey he had some sick fantasy about her or mabey he is unstable and obsessed over her and after spending so much time readingand thinking about her that in his mind he killed her and all the details are clear to him... or he did just want attention cause he will forever be know as the guy who said he murdered a young girl but didn't.... or mabey he was trying to cover up or take the blame for someone else.... there are alot of possiblitys.
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Snow White Jinx Vice Captain
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Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 10:01 am
~xXx~Nikki4187~xXx~ Kittie-sama The Placebo Pixie I don't know. I don't think any parent in their right mind would ever harm their child that way...I mean, have you read what actually happened to her? It's absolutely sickening. You know how many children a day have such things done to them by their parents? 5 to 6 a day... heck I come from an such a family. I heard some awful stories, mainly kids who are abuse end up taken their own lives in the end of it all. Because they believe people don't care. I'm just lucky I was able to meet one of my best friends before I became one of those numbers. You'd be surpirized what people can do to thier own flesh and blood... I read about a murder where the mother thought she heard voices telling her that her new born baby was a demon and would bring the end of the world if she didn't kill it so she put the baby on a cutting board in the kitchen and chopped it's head off, obviously she had mental problems.... and kids with perfectionist parents get beat all the time if they make one mistake so it's possible that JonBennet was doing something below her parents standers and the punishment got out of hand... people with rage problems have a hard time stopping what they are doing, its possible they could have been perfectionists with some anger problems. They obviously expected alot from the poor girl... I remember seeing something on the news about how the parents might have had her go in for a nose job, they were comparing older pics with the most recent before she died and honestly its a possiblity they made her get a nose job to look better...its sad what people will do to thier kids for money.
Anyways, it's early and I'm babbling.
I do agree with you guys more now, I guess I just needed to look at it from another point of view.
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Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 10:42 am
The Placebo Pixie ~xXx~Nikki4187~xXx~ Kittie-sama The Placebo Pixie I don't know. I don't think any parent in their right mind would ever harm their child that way...I mean, have you read what actually happened to her? It's absolutely sickening. You know how many children a day have such things done to them by their parents? 5 to 6 a day... heck I come from an such a family. I heard some awful stories, mainly kids who are abuse end up taken their own lives in the end of it all. Because they believe people don't care. I'm just lucky I was able to meet one of my best friends before I became one of those numbers. You'd be surpirized what people can do to thier own flesh and blood... I read about a murder where the mother thought she heard voices telling her that her new born baby was a demon and would bring the end of the world if she didn't kill it so she put the baby on a cutting board in the kitchen and chopped it's head off, obviously she had mental problems.... and kids with perfectionist parents get beat all the time if they make one mistake so it's possible that JonBennet was doing something below her parents standers and the punishment got out of hand... people with rage problems have a hard time stopping what they are doing, its possible they could have been perfectionists with some anger problems. They obviously expected alot from the poor girl... I remember seeing something on the news about how the parents might have had her go in for a nose job, they were comparing older pics with the most recent before she died and honestly its a possiblity they made her get a nose job to look better...its sad what people will do to thier kids for money.
Anyways, it's early and I'm babbling.
I do agree with you guys more now, I guess I just needed to look at it from another point of view.I don't know... I guese most don't plan on being those types of parents, it just happens. In most cases its a good mom and an abusive dad or vise versa. Like girl falls in love, a year later learns her boyfriend is abusive and he starts hitting her, she never does the smart thing and just leave him, she just wishes he'll change. They have a kid, she hopes it'll calm the husband down, he gets irritated that the kid wont shut up so he starts hitting it and then it continues until he either kills the mom or kid, or someone finally stops him by calling the cops or the mother finally takes the kid and leaves for good. If you know someone who beats thier dog when it's bad chances are they will end up beating thier kids too. They see the dog as thiers so they have the right to tell it what to do, they see a child of thier own in this same light. They own it, it's thiers, it will do as they say. Thats also why bad parents wont give up the child. It is theirs, they made it, they think they should have total control of it. One of my friends cousins is treated as a maid at her dads house. She's 14 but she cooks, cleans, does laundry, and will get yelled at if she doesn't do it, and also if she doesn't do it right or fast enough. My mom helped get this other girl get out of her mom and dads house cause they'd make her eat dog food off the floorif she complained about making diner or what they were having for dinner. Basicly both parents treated thier stupid pit bull better then thier kid. The dog never got hit, the kid got hit all the time. And sometimes when a kid is born the mother suffers post partem depression and that sometimes is the cause of a mother freaking out and killing her kid, like in the case of the mother hearing voices telling her to kill the kid... she had no mental health problems until after the kid was born. Sorry for rambling, Ijust like knowing what makes people tick and why they do what they do(especially murderers) so I read up on stuff like this.
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Snow White Jinx Vice Captain
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Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 11:32 am
I'm not surprised by anything that people do to other people anymore. And yes the numbers of what happens is great. Like with my birth father. He came from an bad home. His father beat him and his brothers and sisters. (and there are a lot of them) Because they didn't do something, and he took a lot of the beating. So to him the older child should take all the blame. Hence growing up even if my blood brother was the cause of something. e.g. One time he stole my gameboy and tried to sell it back to me. I was in the wrong because of the fact, I had gotten upset over it. I was punish for getting upset. My brother however got to keep my gameboy and didn't get in trouble for anything.
My mother didn't do crap about it either. I can go further in this example as well. My brother once took a knife to me, my uncle didn't want a boy to seem weak at all, claimed that at first I had the knife and I was taken it at my brother who he threw a phonebook at him. Hence making the boy look stronger then girl. (after all girls aren't strong and aren't smart in his mind) However years later, he finally told my parents the truth. It was I who had hit my brother with the phonebook to remove the knife from him.
People who are raised to believe this is right don't tend to understand that's its wrong. My birth dad has worked hard on trying to change his way but even though he's not as bad as his father was to him. Its still pretty bad... and we don't know the fully story or background in everything to be sure.
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