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Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2004 7:00 pm
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Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2004 7:01 pm
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Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2004 7:09 pm
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Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2004 7:18 pm
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Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2004 7:20 pm
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Posted: Sun Sep 26, 2004 3:44 pm
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Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2004 8:56 pm
http://www.abortioninfo.net/facts/whatis3.shtml http://www.cbctrust.com/abortion.html#2 http://www.abortionfacts.com/history/history.asp
I found those while doing research on the history of abortion.
Edit: Yeah. I didn't like it much either. it was kinda funny, though.
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Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2004 7:44 am
I added 3 of those. The Hope Clinic one I didn't add, because the other ones have history as well and there was no real need for that one. Did you read the abortion procedures on the hope clinic on though? Very VERY vague.
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Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2004 4:31 pm
I'll start writing some stuff up, but thanks Toxic for this thread, its helpful
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Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2004 1:10 am
toxic_lollipop I just noticed that we didn't have a page for pro-life links and such, for anyone who needs them. If you have any you'd like to add, or any comments on any of the sites, post them in here.
Women Deserve Better Feminists for Life * Silent No More Hope After Abortion Just The Facts Abortion Is Murder (Graphic) Abortion is Deadlier than Childbirth Abortion Info History of Abortion Abortion Facts
*Not only for females. Males are welcome as well. (yes, males can be feminists. It just means that they support equality.)kp606's corner: The following is a list of wanted argument rebuttals. Get some facts and info. and contruct a good anti-argument for each of the following. You'll be given credit. Please make sure it's gramatically correct as you can make it. Wanted: Why the fetus is not a parasite Why abstinence is a better choice Dangers of AbortionInaccuracies of the Pro-Choice Side Reasons why personhood doesn't matter Links for support for Young Mothers, Mothers in financial HardshipsI will add more as they come to me http://www.gabrielproject.com/ Gabriel project is good, it helps....well, the people I know who've used it. I haven't checked out all these links yet, but they seem okay so far: http://dmoz.org/Health/Reproductive_Health/Clinics_and_Services/Abortion_Alternative_Services/ http://www.abortionfacts.com/search.asp dangers: http://www.w-cpc.org/abortion/physical.htmlhttp://www.deveber.org/press-release-eng2.html http://www.ourchurch.com/view/?pageID=117417 http://www.pregnantpause.org/safe/stakes.htm http://www.abortionfacts.com/online_books/love_them_both/why_cant_we_love_them_both_27.asp#But isnt abortion safer than childbirth? http://members.aol.com/dfjoseph/Abortionvschildbirth.html http://www.crosswalk.com/news/1219305.html (it's an article, but it's got a line about the whole, complications from abortion that cause death and how those complications are the cause of death, not a word of what caused them is mentioned in abortion cases.) just liked this one http://www.abortiontv.com/AbortionStatistics.htm http://www.abortionfacts.com/parsing_the_arguments/parsing_the_arguments.asp
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Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2004 4:21 pm
Quote: Why the fetus is not a parasite It IS a parasite, but it's still a HUMAN (basic biology) parasite. By invoking the definition of parasite you are acknowledging that the fetus is also a completely seperate entity than the mother.
Therefore you could also compare a newborn to a parasite as well. (if it's breastfed then it still technically 'feeds' off the mother.) If she doesn't like the idea of bottle feeding a newborn, but doesn't want to breastfeed should she be given the option of simply killing the baby?Quote: Why abstinence is a better choice This I don't agree with. Yes you should teach that abstinence the ONLY 100% effective form of birth control, but everything else should be taught as well.
Abstinence protects not only from pregnancy, but also from STDs. But if you're married or in a long term relationship abstinence will not always be an option. Sure if it's something you both agree on and want it can work, but the chances of that? Slim to none.
I'll add more later.
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Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2004 8:36 pm
Erm.....if anyone enjoys making nazi references (considering how easy it is to compare the two) here's a link full of the Nazi Party's speeches. Translated, of course. http://www.calvin.edu/academic/cas/gpa/ww2era.htmI go the way of toxic....abstinence isn't a likely happening, people will never want to give up abortion if it means giving up premarital sex, and she's right, the parasite argument they have is great because it's true, but it's just as true as the fact that a newborn is a parasite. if anyone wants parasite links, I can go back and look them up because I've gotten, "Well a newborn doesn't have to stay with one host, so it's not a parasite," where this person obviously has never looked at the life cycle of a tick, tapeworm, liverfluke, or anything else. THANK THE LORD FOR MS. MEIER'S ZOOLOGY! Half of the Inaccuracies of the Pro-Choice side are covered in the, parasite argument, DNA argument, mother's body argument, and such...they all contradict eachother. The other half is false information, like Abortion is safer than childbirth (right rolleyes )and such. Personhood does matter, doesn't it? I mean, that's why slavery went on so long, and the holocaust...these weren't persons, they were parasites, they were leeches on society. Humans, yes, but not Persons. But I'm still looking for a site that has the inaccuracies of prochoice arguments, like, all of them. at once. without ten thousand dif. links, I"ll post back if I find one.
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Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2004 9:27 pm
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Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2004 11:02 pm
toxic_lollipop *Not only for females. Males are welcome as well. (yes, males can be feminists. It just means that they support equality.) I'd like to comment on that. Any links about a male's rights? That's his offspring, how just is it that a woman can kill his child? I'm just wondering if anyone has any links of the sort. It's her body, but it's still his kid...shouldn't he have some of the choice making? If a man has to pay child support if she keeps it, why can't he tell her to abort or not abort? If he doesn't have that right, than she shouldn't expect him to pay child support if she keeps the baby. It's not fair. ABortion isn't fair to men at all. At least, that's what I always thought.
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Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2004 4:23 am
toxic_lollipop Quote: Why the fetus is not a parasite It IS a parasite, but it's still a HUMAN (basic biology) parasite. By invoking the definition of parasite you are acknowledging that the fetus is also a completely seperate entity than the mother.
Therefore you could also compare a newborn to a parasite as well. (if it's breastfed then it still technically 'feeds' off the mother.) If she doesn't like the idea of bottle feeding a newborn, but doesn't want to breastfeed should she be given the option of simply killing the baby?Quote: Why abstinence is a better choice This I don't agree with. Yes you should teach that abstinence the ONLY 100% effective form of birth control, but everything else should be taught as well.
Abstinence protects not only from pregnancy, but also from STDs. But if you're married or in a long term relationship abstinence will not always be an option. Sure if it's something you both agree on and want it can work, but the chances of that? Slim to none.
I'll add more later.Sorry Toxic but it is undoubtedly the better choice because people who don't have sex can't get pregnant and cannot get STDs. Will that stop them? Doubt it, but a little encouragement to aspiring virigns never hurt anyone.
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