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 Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 5:04 am
I believe this has a correlation with abortion and all that jazz, if not, feel free to delete.
In the editorials in my local newspaper, some woman wrote in her opinion that providing free daycare for single mothers would only encourage them to be lazy whores (not in so many words though).
Yes, that's it, let's tell the single mothers who work their asses off providing for themselves and their children that free daycare shouldn't be allowed because those few who would abuse it. Why should that matter? If a year of daycare costs as much as year's worth of wages, the single mothers should not have to worry about being late for work because they can't find a babysitter or afford to pay them.
Does the woman who wrote the editorial expect a woman in that position NOT to work? Without free daycare, a woman would HAVE to be lazy and stay with her kids, and possibly starve.
I also suspect that she is pro-life, sadly (as she mentions that she shouldn't have to pay for other peoples' children because they aren't hers).
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Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 7:06 am
No wonder Harper's conservatives want to give parents $100 taxable per child under six they have instead of trying to open daycare spots.
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Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 8:50 am
Honestly, If I could have my (hypothetical child) at work in a company-sponsored daycare, I'd work MORE hours because I wouldn't need to rush home to see Little Suzie right at 5 or have to waste time driving to a nearby daycare at home to pick her up from there.
And hey, you gain nifty karma and press points for having daycare like that. What could be more pro-family AND pro-choice than making it easier to people to deal with the children they have?
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Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 8:53 am
Here's a major irony: the cost of daycare is expensive, but the wages daycare workers receive are some of the lowest.
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Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 9:22 am
This is the reason we say Pro-lifers don't give a damned the minute it leaves the uterus.
They're so gung-ho about getting republicans elected so they can punish women they don't care if they punish the child post-birth as well. In Fact I think they want to considering that many say the same things that woman did.
We don't want to pay for your mistakes, even though we forced to you give birth against your will. This is just continued punishment for daring to have sex, who gives a damned if the child gets hurt or neglected, there's always adoption!!! lolz!!!
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Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 9:45 am
Yeah... so, those girls at my school who drop their kids off every day are just lazy because they're trying to survive highschool with an infant in tow?
This is bullshit. But, y'know, on the flipside there are these single mothers who believe that women shouldn't work, so they stay home and expect the government to provide for them.
Talon-Chan, you're 100% right. They're pro-life until it leaves your v****a... then they could care less. I mean, if they cared would more be stepping up to adopt all of these minority, special needs children who are rotting in orphanages? Because, y'know, adoption is the happy sunshine alternative to teh ebil abortion, you lazy slut!
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Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 9:55 am
Hey now. Did you guys forget that once you give birth, infinate family members rush to your aid to care for your screaming sprog? They drop everything in their lives, because obviously your parents want another child to care for. Forget their just got through (or are still) raising you. The more the merrier right?! biggrin
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My mother put us in various afterschool programmes and ased if we could stay at friend's houses when we were younger. She couldn't work the hours needed to care for us, and be home to look after us. She was just relieved when I hit 13 and could watch my brother and sister on my own.
If the pro-lifers cared so much about children, they'd help with daycare, maybe offer to babysit for some single mother for free (hey, you can also get your homework done), or you know, stop pressuring women to give birth to children that won't get the care and attention they need.
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Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 10:39 am
Speaking of this, when I was up in my hometown last weekend getting married (yay!), I was watching television with my grandmother and my sister and it was one of those "trading spouses" ripoff shows. One of the women was this very well educated woman, but she had like four kids (not well educated enough, if you ask me....>_>) and the other one was a "stay at home, homeschool the kids" type of mom, who thought that putting kids in daycare was cruel and horrible.
However, I noticed that when the younger kids went to daycare, they were able to interact with other kids at a younger age and learn how to socialize with their peers much better.
Also, it's usually during the day, so they don't tend to be there for EVER or anything.
I think that a lot of people in this country seem to have forgotten that large families and close-knit communities used to fill in for the role that daycares today fill. Back in the day, my grandmother and her four sisters (and their cousins and aunts) would all get together with their kids, and everyone would play, and have fun, with the women working together and keeping each other company.
There was none of this "woman stays isolated all alone with her babies all day" s**t. I mean, perhaps a few days she'd be by herself, but there were always neighbors, friends, and family to be nearby. I hate how things have changed so much that if you don't stay home and spend hours with your kids, that somehow you're a bad parent.
And even though my mom was "stay at home" when I was a kid, I would often ask her specifically if I could stay at the daycare that one of her friends ran because I liked being around the other kids.
I think that daycare CAN be helpful and good for a child's development.
I'm sick and tired of people viewing parenting as a separate endevor, because in all reality, absolute roles are both destructive and stifling.
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Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 12:12 pm
I agree with Oni-Angel. When I was three, my family moved to Georgia from New York, where we had lived in a small town where the phrase "it takes a village to raise a child" really was true (one of my strongest memories of that place was the appartment's Argentenian landlady giving me a really nice dress for some sort of special occasion. It might have been my birthday). While Georgia has never exactly been New York, daycare and preschool programs helped me get into the community and meet people/make friends.
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Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 3:34 pm
I dont consider daycare an excuse for lazyness free or not. I should know since before school danice and my mom as well as me and sis personally take Kaitlyne their ourselves..then me and danice walk there to check up on her when it's break time/Lunch. we both go when ever we get the chance. even on days off we take her so that she doesnt grow up away from kids her age.
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Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 4:13 pm
Free daycare bad?! The hell?
Oh, my freakin' god.
Personally, my sisters and I basically spent many of our younger years in the daycare system. Why? Mom divorced an abusive father so that we could survive.
She had to work her a** off to get food on the table.
Now, I'm not saying that the daycares were good, but they were helpful for her as all hell. But it was a load off her shoulders in one manner.
Having some money from the government to help offset that cost sure woulda been helpful though.
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Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 4:15 pm
Excuse me person that thinks that single mothers are lazy whores, I'd like to see YOU juggle your a**-swipe hindey off trying to balance single-parenting, life, work, children, and EVERYTHING ELSE in the world without services!
What's next?
HOMG! Homeless shelters and soup kitchens ENCOURAGE BULLSHIT!
rolleyes
Excuse me, but let's talk to single mothers using the daycare system, not RWCM.
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Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 9:14 pm
I have mixed feelings about daycare. I was not placed in daycare when I was a child. My mother chose to stay home until I was eight years old. I was significantly healthier than my classmates who had been in daycare for several years.
However, there are some mothers who NEED daycare for their children. On the other hand, there are some women who expect daycare and school to raise their children for them. There are plenty of men like that as well. (My mother taught kindergarten in an "inner city" school for seven years. I saw too many mothers pissed off at mine just because they didn't care enough to help their kids with homework, or teach them to write, or sign them up for free lunch, or even BATHE THEM! My mom was making at leat 2 calls to DFACS per month.) No matter what, there are going to be awful parents out there, but we don't need to deprive other people because of some morons.
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Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 2:05 am
So they want women to have babies...and then they don't want them to have anyone else take care of the kid except the woman that birthed it*, and they don't want to offer any form of day care...so basically, they want women to stay home and sprog out.
It smacks of punishment and keeping women impovershed and dependent on men.
*Well, unless it's fresh white baby. Then think of the coupels that want to adopt. They think of you sprogging their super baby.
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