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What are the things that really, really piss you off about games in general that you tend to see all too often? Note that this applies to any genre, just that in my opinion, RPG's are the easiest to draw from, so a lot of mine will come from them. 3nodding

- If you beat someone senseless in a battle with your five hundred magic spells, your level 99's and all of those rare items you got from fighting that one monster with a 1/500.000 chance of getting them, it still doesn't mean that you beat them outside of battle. In fact, they'll one-hit kill you as soon as their HP gets down to 0 and/or as soon as the next cutscene starts.

- The one that closes up any and all convenient routes to and from places, forcing you to tromp halfway across the world map through three dungeons, seven fetch quests, four kidnappings and a run-in with the villain before you can get to the town that was maybe a day away otherwise.

- Load-Bearing Bosses.

Really, if your headquarters is designed to explode in the event of your death, you should really think twice about hanging out near that secondary exit if you want to take the heroes out with you. rolleyes

But what else can you say instead of that?

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How about these?

- The bad guy who is a pain in your a** all game and then, if you're able to recruit him, he's marginal at best. I'm looking at YOU [Albel]!!

- The Final Boss in any game must fullfill a minimum of seven of the following chiches:

1. (I'd hate to have to meet HIS payroll cliche): Surrounded by countless mini-bosses whose only purpose is to use up all your lifepoints, magic points and healing items before the final boss.

2. (He eats his Wheaties cliche): Has 9,999,999 life points to your 300.

3. (Spends all day in the gym cliche): Hits every member of your party for 9,999 life points every turn.

4. (Teflon coated boss cliche): Is immune to whatever your best attack/weapon/power/spell is.

5. (He's definately been at the Vivarin cliche): Gets 3 turns to your one.

6. (Jesus Christ, why won't you ******** die?! cliche): Ressurects three times, each form stronger than the last.

7. (No, Luke, I am your father cliche): Turns out to be the main character's long lost father, but you still have to kill him.

8. (I was only faking being dead cliche): Turns out to be a villian you've already beaten 10x in the game, but this time he is invulnerable.

9. (The game designers really hate you cliche): Whatever the one single treasure in the entired game you missed when passing through a dungeon that is now inaccessable, that will be the one thing you need to defeat the final boss.

10. (Unholy Trinity cliche): Has three arms/tenticles/heads/genitalia/ whatever one of which heals all the others, one of which casts damaging spells and the third of which puts a shield over the lot, while the main body kicks the living s**t out of your party.

3, 4, and 5 are truth. xd

More to the point on 1, why is it that the game designers seem to have something against woodland creatures and such in the beginning of the game? You almost always run into the token squirrel, bunny or bird until you're strong enough to fight some REAL monsters. Give us something that'd actually be a threat for a change. xd

2 is gonna happen anyway, no matter what. It's become a staple now.

and 6 is more or less a reason to rant on something than a cliche, but I DO know where you're coming from with it. 3nodding

Okay...the Mr. T Thing got me... xd

Still, some of these sound more so like nitpicks against RPGs, which in turn deserves its own thread, or so I believe, so I'll make one and move those there, and I'll elaborate on those that could be either/or. 3nodding

That can also be applied to your characters as well, who get literally blown to bits, turned to stone and shattered, shot, stabbed, etc...and they always come out without a scratch on them.

Makes for a nice cliche, though, because as advanced as they get with character models, nothing ever happens to them to show that they're hurt, or anything's happened to them. Resident Evil 4, for example. Your character by the end of the game has been stabbed, sliced shot at, blown up on, puked on....pretty much whatever you'd expect to happen in an RE game, not to mention the fact that he's killed SEVERAL people and monsters in close range, resulting in blood splattering everywhere...yet the most you ever see of him when he's hurt is a slight slowing of his walking/running speed and him holding his ribs, and he doesn't have a speck of blood on him.

More to the point on that one, where the ******** did everybody else go?! Taking a coffee break?! scream

That happens in adventure games, too. The first Devil May Cry, for example. The Shadow creature will turn red and chase you continuously when you take the last of its health; because it's preparing to explode, it wants to take you with him.



You didn't know? It's like a rule. Prettyboy=OMG!!EVIL!!1!! razz

Here's another one: The women of the game that are "strong on occasion",

These women are either superficially and baselessly strong. What I mean is, these girls get wonderful kickass badass fight scenes in cut scenes, but during the real plot (aka: not fighting) they are not strong at all. (I'm looking at you AC Tifa...I suspect FFXIII's heroine will be like this, too.) Said female character can have a kickass fight scene where she pulls things you'd usually see saved for an action movie, but then she dangles off of a cliff and someone (read: a man) has to rescue her. stare

The thing is, being a strong character and being a strong fighter are two entirely different things. And repeating "Yuna is strong" 5,000+ times doesn't make it true, either. xd

In fighting games?

"Oh noes!! The city/world is in danger! We should challenge the evil mob boss/alien/overlord to a tournament with his most powerful fighters in it."

Yeah...okay...so, during said tournament, while you and the rest of the city's/planet's strongest fighters are there, playing by the rules...what's to stop the aforementioned enemy from breaking them behind your back, sending his or her armies to other locations far off to begin their conquest while they're keeping you busy in this one spot, fighting? What the hell do you and whoever's left plan to do when the whole army rolls up on you at once with the rest of the people dead and gone? stare

that's what Im saying....

since this is turning into a thread about things we dont like in games, rather then actual cliches, i might as well throw in my two cents.

enemies that cast instant death magic ON THE WHOLE ******** PARTY. especially when its a group of enemies that cast the same spell several times in a row in the same turn. major ouch.

status effects that work on your party 90% of the time, but the same effects work less then 10% of the time on enemies. grr.

stare stare stare how come im always stumped by random people?