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Posted: Sun Aug 20, 2006 3:53 pm
As I hope, everyone has heard or seen what happened yesterday at the Busch race in MIS. So, here's the question, did Junior wreck Carl intentionally or was it a mistake and Carl made it worse. In my opinion, Carl reacted the wrong way, he almost took Junior's hand off when he rammed into him, and going to Victory Lane and ruining the celebration, to top that grabbing Junior by the firesuit. That's a no-no. Junior did not mean to wreck Carl and he was just racing. Carl wouldn't have gotten off the gas if he was in Junior's place. He has lost some of my respect now. All these past weeks I've stuck behind him because he's my 3rd favorite driver. Here are some images from yesterday: 
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Posted: Sun Aug 20, 2006 4:27 pm
Well you should see it from Carls point of view. Carl was second in points trying to make a run at Harvick for the championship and was probably gonna win the race. Then Dale Earnhardt. Jr, who i might ad has only made 4 starts in the busch series and was probably running the busch race for practice in nextel, comes up and forcably removes him from the lead and he finishes 23rd and loses about 100 points towards chasing Harvick down. To top it off, Tony Stewart a few weeks ago pretty well destroyed any chances of Carl making the chase so that just adds to his frustration. If Dale came up behind me and pretty much closed the door on my busch series championship I think i might react much the same as he did. Don't get me wrong I have never seen a guy put up with more crap than Carl has this year but theres just a point where everyones gonna snap. Give him a little time to cool off.
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Triple Homicide Vice Captain
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Posted: Sun Aug 20, 2006 4:54 pm
Carl Edwards is getting a little too cocky. and ramming into the side of Jrs car was a little over the top. he didnt need to do that. Im not really sure who did it. it was getting to the end of the race and Carl slowed down and jr was trying to win and he didnt really mean to wreck him. so was is Carls fault for his car going backwards or was it Jr who didnt slow down cause he wanted to win it.
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Posted: Sun Aug 20, 2006 6:46 pm
robby gordon would have won the race if earnhardt jr didn't get into carl
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Posted: Sun Aug 20, 2006 7:22 pm
I think that Carl heard on his radio that Junior was coming, so he went up to block, then got what he deserved. I'm proud of Junior for what he did because he is starting to act more like his father. As of carl running into him after the race, he shouldn't have, i mean bristols next week, and he could have taken juinor out in it, but he can't cause he's on probation.
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Posted: Sun Aug 20, 2006 9:25 pm
Triple Homicide Well you should see it from Carls point of view. Carl was second in points trying to make a run at Harvick for the championship and was probably gonna win the race. Then Dale Earnhardt. Jr, who i might ad has only made 4 starts in the busch series and was probably running the busch race for practice in nextel, comes up and forcably removes him from the lead and he finishes 23rd and loses about 100 points towards chasing Harvick down. To top it off, Tony Stewart a few weeks ago pretty well destroyed any chances of Carl making the chase so that just adds to his frustration. If Dale came up behind me and pretty much closed the door on my busch series championship I think i might react much the same as he did. Don't get me wrong I have never seen a guy put up with more crap than Carl has this year but theres just a point where everyones gonna snap. Give him a little time to cool off. 3nodding I agree 100% with you. I've been arguing with my dad and brother for two days about this.
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Posted: Sun Aug 20, 2006 9:54 pm
I think what Carl did was wrong and should get a penelty for raming DALE JR and almost taking of his hand.
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Posted: Sun Aug 20, 2006 9:57 pm
Junior8 I think what Carl did was wrong and should get a penelty for raming DALE JR and almost taking off his hand.
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Posted: Sun Aug 20, 2006 10:33 pm
Snuggle Pouff Triple Homicide Well you should see it from Carls point of view. Carl was second in points trying to make a run at Harvick for the championship and was probably gonna win the race. Then Dale Earnhardt. Jr, who i might ad has only made 4 starts in the busch series and was probably running the busch race for practice in nextel, comes up and forcably removes him from the lead and he finishes 23rd and loses about 100 points towards chasing Harvick down. To top it off, Tony Stewart a few weeks ago pretty well destroyed any chances of Carl making the chase so that just adds to his frustration. If Dale came up behind me and pretty much closed the door on my busch series championship I think i might react much the same as he did. Don't get me wrong I have never seen a guy put up with more crap than Carl has this year but theres just a point where everyones gonna snap. Give him a little time to cool off. 3nodding I agree 100% with you. I've been arguing with my dad and brother for two days about this. I did forget to say one thing. Though I am a big Carl Edwards fan he shouldn't have retaliated after the race like that. Theres a time and a place for boneheaded moves and any time on the the race track isnt one of them. Carl's got a bright future ahead of him. It's a good thing he's got guys like Matt Kenseth and Mark Martin on his team to help guide him. I see championships in Carls future if he keeps his reputation up. GO CARL!!!
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Posted: Sun Aug 20, 2006 11:43 pm
Triple Homicide Snuggle Pouff Triple Homicide Well you should see it from Carls point of view. Carl was second in points trying to make a run at Harvick for the championship and was probably gonna win the race. Then Dale Earnhardt. Jr, who i might ad has only made 4 starts in the busch series and was probably running the busch race for practice in nextel, comes up and forcably removes him from the lead and he finishes 23rd and loses about 100 points towards chasing Harvick down. To top it off, Tony Stewart a few weeks ago pretty well destroyed any chances of Carl making the chase so that just adds to his frustration. If Dale came up behind me and pretty much closed the door on my busch series championship I think i might react much the same as he did. Don't get me wrong I have never seen a guy put up with more crap than Carl has this year but theres just a point where everyones gonna snap. Give him a little time to cool off. 3nodding I agree 100% with you. I've been arguing with my dad and brother for two days about this. I did forget to say one thing. Though I am a big Carl Edwards fan he shouldn't have retaliated after the race like that. Theres a time and a place for boneheaded moves and any time on the the race track isnt one of them. Carl's got a bright future ahead of him. It's a good thing he's got guys like Matt Kenseth and Mark Martin on his team to help guide him. I see championships in Carls future if he keeps his reputation up. GO CARL!!! the problem with that is Nascar penalizes the drivers even worse when they're out of their cars, which makes no sense, just like that jeff gordon/matt kenseth incident
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Posted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 6:31 am
You have to remember, they were going for the win, and I think any driver worth his salt wouldn't have let up.
My take on this issue? Eh, yes, Junior could have let up, but again, like I said, they were going for the win. Edwards broke loose out of two which killed his momentum. I don't think it's like Junior to intentionally wreck someone, he's nothing like his father. But it happened. Junior got into Edwards and he got taken out. Really it's just too bad for both sides. Carl should have understandably been frustrated, but I think it was purely boneheaded to pull that Days of Thunder stunt. I bet he's happy that Junior still has his arm. Or else NASCAR would never hear the end of that. eek
Let it calm down. It's over with, and hopefully cooler heads will prevail.
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Posted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 10:52 am
I like both drivers, so I'm torn. Yeah, Carl's championship hopes took a turn for the worse over that, and I can understand where he would be upset, but they were racing for the win!
All that aside, Carl shouldn't have run into Dale on the track. Like systematic_chaos said, what if he had hurt Junior by doing that?
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Posted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 12:08 pm
Maybe we should look at this from a Nextel Cup point of view just for comparison. Lets pretend its maybe 5 races til the chase deadline and we'll say Kasey Kahne is 11th and is tryen to make up points to catch 10th place which he trails by about 100 points. (im not saying this is truth its just an example) Well Kasey is leading in the dying laps and a track filler car such as Boris Said is coming up behind Kasey and this is Boris's thrid race of the season where Kasey has started every race in the season. On the final lap, what if Boris decides not to race Kasey clean and wrecks him forcing Kasey to a bad finish. Would we look at it any differently than we looked at the Edwards Earnhardt incident? Please voice some opinions on this thought.
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Posted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 12:50 pm
Triple Homicide Maybe we should look at this from a Nextel Cup point of view just for comparison. Lets pretend its maybe 5 races til the chase deadline and we'll say Kasey Kahne is 11th and is tryen to make up points to catch 10th place which he trails by about 100 points. (im not saying this is truth its just an example) Well Kasey is leading in the dying laps and a track filler car such as Boris Said is coming up behind Kasey and this is Boris's thrid race of the season where Kasey has started every race in the season. On the final lap, what if Boris decides not to race Kasey clean and wrecks him forcing Kasey to a bad finish. Would we look at it any differently than we looked at the Edwards Earnhardt incident? Please voice some opinions on this thought. That's a great example. I tried explaining to my dad like that, that Carl is chasing the Busch Championship, Jr isn't. Same with Nextel if someone who is out of the chase like top 30 wrecked someone in the chase and lost the person in the chase positions, that person would not have been happy.
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Posted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 1:36 pm
that's just how the busch series is, i guess
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