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 Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 1:10 pm
Ok this is basically a question of which of these universes you believe is at a higher powerlevel.
Fighters will be
Luffy's crew vs. Ichigo's group under the leadership of Urahara.
Aizen and the traitor captains vs. hawk-eye hihawk, doquixote donflamingo, and Sir Crocodile
Edit: I was really surpirsed that this hasn't come up yet.
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Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 3:37 pm
Akuki Ok this is basically a question of which of these universes you believe is at a higher powerlevel. Fighters will be Luffy's crew vs. Ichigo's group under the leadership of Urahara. Aizen and the traitor captains vs. hawk-eye hihawk, doquixote donflamingo, and Sir Crocodile Edit: I was really surpirsed that this hasn't come up yet. Bleach due to the gaping speed advantage, though based on your lineups, most of Ichigo's crew would die save for Ichigo. Who all is in ichigo's crew, because if it is other Shinigami, then Bleach wins, but if it's just Orihime and them, then OP wins the majority of the fights, but loses to Ichigo. As for Aizen, does he get the Arrancar, if not then I don't know enough about the OP lineup to make an accurate assessment. This is all assuming of course that the OP characters can see the Bleach chracters.
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Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 4:24 pm
Flash step.
Need I say more?
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Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 4:26 pm
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Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 4:35 pm
Well im not sure wat that is, so ill look it up razz
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Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 4:43 pm
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Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 5:25 pm
Actually, yes. Luffy just got a speed boost, while Ichigo has had one for quite a while now. Plus, flash step has been used to go further than Soru in the same amount of time.
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Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 5:40 pm
Luffy was far from slow before he got it. Shunpo is about as fast as lightning. Luffy beat Eneru who was lightning without using Gear. Not oly that Luffy's got Gear 3 now. He WOULD be able to keep up with Ichigo and quite possible more.
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Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 5:46 pm
Enigma Master Andrew Luffy was far from slow before he got it. Shunpo is about as fast as lightning. Luffy beat Eneru who was lightning without using Gear. Not oly that Luffy's got Gear 3 now. He WOULD be able to keep up with Ichigo and quite possible more. Luffy has good reflexes, but his movement speed before Soru was neglegable. He was barely able to keep up with Enel, and still couldn't land a hit until he rebounded them off a wall. He has lightning fast reflexes, but not that kind of movement speed. I'd say Soru is on level with Kuro, but not lightning. Also, gear 3 provides no spped advantage and actually makes him a sitting duck, Gear 2 is where it's at, but like I said, it isn't as fast as lightning.
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Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 7:20 pm
Knightgee Enigma Master Andrew Luffy was far from slow before he got it. Shunpo is about as fast as lightning. Luffy beat Eneru who was lightning without using Gear. Not oly that Luffy's got Gear 3 now. He WOULD be able to keep up with Ichigo and quite possible more. Luffy has good reflexes, but his movement speed before Soru was neglegable. He was barely able to keep up with Enel, and still couldn't land a hit until he rebounded them off a wall. He has lightning fast reflexes, but not that kind of movement speed. I'd say Soru is on level with Kuro, but not lightning. Also, gear 3 provides no spped advantage and actually makes him a sitting duck, Gear 2 is where it's at, but like I said, it isn't as fast as lightning. On par with Kuro?! BS Luffy's reflexes where fast enough to kick his a** without the need to power up. It does't matter if he bounced them off the wall the fact is that he still hit someone who moves as fast as lightning and if he went Gear 2 and did the same thing on Ichigo he'd tear his a** to bits without him being able to do much about it.
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Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:32 am
Knightgee Akuki Ok this is basically a question of which of these universes you believe is at a higher powerlevel. Fighters will be Luffy's crew vs. Ichigo's group under the leadership of Urahara. Aizen and the traitor captains vs. hawk-eye hihawk, doquixote donflamingo, and Sir Crocodile Edit: I was really surpirsed that this hasn't come up yet. Bleach due to the gaping speed advantage, though based on your lineups, most of Ichigo's crew would die save for Ichigo. Who all is in ichigo's crew, because if it is other Shinigami, then Bleach wins, but if it's just Orihime and them, then OP wins the majority of the fights, but loses to Ichigo. As for Aizen, does he get the Arrancar, if not then I don't know enough about the OP lineup to make an accurate assessment. This is all assuming of course that the OP characters can see the Bleach chracters. Okay in the case of Icjigo's team, that will include Ichigo, Chad, Ishida, Inoue and Yoruichi Luffy's team will by Luffy, Nico Robin, Sanji, Usopp, and Zoro Aizen's team is just the three captains. These fights will occur as two seperate melee battles.
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Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 8:42 am
Just pointing out that true Soru is described as Instaneous Movement, which I think puts it above Shunpo.
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Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 9:26 am
Mr.Mxyzptlk Just pointing out that true Soru is described as Instaneous Movement, which I think puts it above Shunpo. When was it described as instantaneous? Chapter #? Also, Shunpo literally translates to flash step, which makes the speed comparable to light, or more likely lightning. As for the fight with Ichigo's team, Nico Robin tips it in OP's favor, since I can't figure out how they could get around her ability. As for Aizen and them, we haven't seen enough of what some of those people can do to guage how strong they are.
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Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 9:33 am
Enigma Master Andrew Knightgee Enigma Master Andrew Luffy was far from slow before he got it. Shunpo is about as fast as lightning. Luffy beat Eneru who was lightning without using Gear. Not oly that Luffy's got Gear 3 now. He WOULD be able to keep up with Ichigo and quite possible more. Luffy has good reflexes, but his movement speed before Soru was neglegable. He was barely able to keep up with Enel, and still couldn't land a hit until he rebounded them off a wall. He has lightning fast reflexes, but not that kind of movement speed. I'd say Soru is on level with Kuro, but not lightning. Also, gear 3 provides no spped advantage and actually makes him a sitting duck, Gear 2 is where it's at, but like I said, it isn't as fast as lightning. On par with Kuro?! BS Luffy's reflexes where fast enough to kick his a** without the need to power up. It does't matter if he bounced them off the wall the fact is that he still hit someone who moves as fast as lightning and if he went Gear 2 and did the same thing on Ichigo he'd tear his a** to bits without him being able to do much about it. Maybe you don't understand the difference between reflexes and movement speed. It took Luffy time to adjust to Kuro's movements, and only after he did was he able to hit him, but Luffy could never move at that speed until he got gear 2. Yes he did hit Enel, but not because he could keep up with him, he attacked randomly because he knew that Enel's mantra couldn't predict where the attacks would land if it were random. It would be like me bouncing a ball of a wall and having it hit someone behind me, that doesn't mean that if I threw it at you, you couldn't dodge it. Regardless, the difference between Kuro and Soru speed is that with Soru you can actually see what you are doing. If anything it lends to the idea that Soru isn't as fast, since Kuro was going so fast he couldn't even see what he was attacking. Luffy would need time to go into gear 3, but Ichigo already knows Shunpo, as does Yuroichi and Urahara, and Ishida knows a variant and slightly weaker version of it. Only Chad and Orihime are at a disadvantage in this fight.
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Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 10:40 am
Knightgee Enigma Master Andrew Knightgee Enigma Master Andrew Luffy was far from slow before he got it. Shunpo is about as fast as lightning. Luffy beat Eneru who was lightning without using Gear. Not oly that Luffy's got Gear 3 now. He WOULD be able to keep up with Ichigo and quite possible more. Luffy has good reflexes, but his movement speed before Soru was neglegable. He was barely able to keep up with Enel, and still couldn't land a hit until he rebounded them off a wall. He has lightning fast reflexes, but not that kind of movement speed. I'd say Soru is on level with Kuro, but not lightning. Also, gear 3 provides no spped advantage and actually makes him a sitting duck, Gear 2 is where it's at, but like I said, it isn't as fast as lightning. On par with Kuro?! BS Luffy's reflexes where fast enough to kick his a** without the need to power up. It does't matter if he bounced them off the wall the fact is that he still hit someone who moves as fast as lightning and if he went Gear 2 and did the same thing on Ichigo he'd tear his a** to bits without him being able to do much about it. Maybe you don't understand the difference between reflexes and movement speed. It took Luffy time to adjust to Kuro's movements, and only after he did was he able to hit him, but Luffy could never move at that speed until he got gear 2. Yes he did hit Enel, but not because he could keep up with him, he attacked randomly because he knew that Enel's mantra couldn't predict where the attacks would land if it were random. It would be like me bouncing a ball of a wall and having it hit someone behind me, that doesn't mean that if I threw it at you, you couldn't dodge it. Regardless, the difference between Kuro and Soru speed is that with Soru you can actually see what you are doing. If anything it lends to the idea that Soru isn't as fast, since Kuro was going so fast he couldn't even see what he was attacking. Luffy would need time to go into gear 3, but Ichigo already knows Shunpo, as does Yuroichi and Urahara, and Ishida knows a variant and slightly weaker version of it. Only Chad and Orihime are at a disadvantage in this fight. orihime basically serves as a backup healer for the rest of the team, and Chad just achieved banki in the manga so he isn't a deadweight at all now.
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