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Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 4:15 pm
I'm filling out an application to a learning program and they asked me what the 5 most important mitzvot are. I have no idea if there is even a factual answer to this at all - does anyone know?
I remember reading in something once a list something like Love God, Learn Torah, Recite the Shema, Lay Tefillin, and Hang Mezuzot... But I don't know if it meant those were the 5 overall most important, or just the ones they were talking about then, since I think it was the week the parsha talked about mezuzot anyway. sweatdrop
And what do you guys think are the most important mitzvot in the Torah, even if you don't know the factual answer (if it exists)?
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Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 4:28 pm
Hmmm... I would say:
1. Belief in G-d. 2. Learning Torah. 3. Keeping the sabbath. 4. Honoring your parents and elders. 5. Remembering G-d (which includes Shma, Teffilin, Mezuzot and Tzitzit).
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darkphoenix1247 Vice Captain
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Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 5:20 pm
nathan_ngl Hmmm... I would say: 1. Belief in G-d. 2. Learning Torah. 3. Keeping the sabbath. 4. Honoring your parents and elders. 5. Remembering G-d (which includes Shma, Teffilin, Mezuzot and Tzitzit). I agree with all that Nathan said, but if it's possible, I'd include all of the 10 commandments with number 4. xp (I'm very indecisive sweatdrop ) Think, for example, if you were unlucky and had bad parents. Would it really be right to honor them? I'm certainly not saying that's a common occurence; on the contrary in fact, but still- I'd rather like to add others in case that one doesn't apply. sweatdrop (Please note, however, I am NOT saying that just because a parent doesn't buy you some useless material object or something silly like that, it is alright to disrespect them. I'm speaking specifically in relation to a friend's parents, who are abusive.)
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Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 5:38 pm
I always learned that the 10 Commandments are categories of mitzvot..
I found another "top 5" list as "Shabbat, Shema, Tefillin, Tzitzis, Mezuzot" ... but the site that one was on was a little weird. I can't describe why, but they had a lot of stuff in capital letters and things I didn't understand (topics, not language) about Mosiach coming, and I read some of their PDFs and they implied in one of them that women who get abused ask for it because they're not receptive enough to what their husbands want, and that's just way too ******** for me thanks.
Anyway, now that I'm done bashing some uber-conservative asshats in Israel somewhere. sweatdrop
But I definately have to keep believing in/fearing/loving God and learning Torah. Problem is I also want to definately keep keeping/remembering Shabbat too, and technically since each of those slashes is a different mitzvah that's already six. gonk
Everything else on this application wasn't hard!! scream
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Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 9:07 pm
nathan_ngl Hmmm... I would say: 1. Belief in G-d. 2. Learning Torah. 3. Keeping the sabbath. 4. Honoring your parents and elders. 5. Remembering G-d (which includes Shma, Teffilin, Mezuzot and Tzitzit). 1. i do 2. i dont do 3. i dont do 4. i do 5. to some degree, like i remember that hes my Main Dawg so umm, i guess im a bad jew, or just a reconstructive jew or something?
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Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 9:33 pm
Don't worry. *patpat* Zonko's away at camp so he won't come in and stare you.
This is for an Orthodox program. xd It's called Ohel Sarah Imenu, for anyone wondering.. It's a women's learning center in Jerusalem that teaches women studying for Orthodox conversions.
If I can afford it I want to spend my winter intersession (6 weeks off classes between fall and spring semesters) there, to prepare for going to Neve Yerushalayim next summer, which will be more intensive. 3nodding
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Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 6:28 am
i dont know... there isnt such a thing, (i think)
i mean, there are mizvot that are more important ten others but,
"אין אתה יודע מתן שכרן של מצות" mean "you dont know the gift of doing mitzvot" (i hope i said it right biggrin sweatdrop )
no noe can tell if there are 1,6,90,1000 all of them, you cant tell.
maybe the "ramban" says something interesting, that "thee" mitzva, is "aliya".
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Posted: Sun Aug 20, 2006 4:33 pm
tsvi_tyl i dont know... there isnt such a thing, (i think) i mean, there are mizvot that are more important ten others but, "אין אתה יודע מתן שכרן של מצות" mean "you dont know the gift of doing mitzvot" (i hope i said it right biggrin sweatdrop ) no noe can tell if there are 1,6,90,1000 all of them, you cant tell. maybe the "ramban" says something interesting, that "thee" mitzva, is "aliya". Just beacuse you don't know what the reward of a mitzva is, dones't mean there are not some mitzvot that are better than others. The reward we do know about mitzvot is the fact that it shapes and changes who we are. Besides that, there is the reward of the world to come, but that is unknown to us.
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Posted: Sun Aug 20, 2006 6:50 pm
ahavas yisroel heart
i luv yall biggrin
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Posted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 1:33 am
mellella ahavas yisroel heart i luv yall biggrin That's a good point xd . When Rabbi Akiva was challenged to explain all of the torah while standing on one foot, Rabbi Akiva replied: "to understand the main concept of judaism, love your fellow jew as you would love yourself. Now go learn the rest of it's laws and details". Ahavas yisroel, unconditional love, and compromising even what is most important to us.
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Posted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 1:42 am
Akhilles nathan_ngl Hmmm... I would say: 1. Belief in G-d. 2. Learning Torah. 3. Keeping the sabbath. 4. Honoring your parents and elders. 5. Remembering G-d (which includes Shma, Teffilin, Mezuzot and Tzitzit). 1. i do 2. i dont do 3. i dont do 4. i do 5. to some degree, like i remember that hes my Main Dawg (( rofl )) so umm, i guess im a bad jew, or just a reconstructive jew or something? nah man, G-d knows that you do the best of your ability! ^_^
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Posted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 1:45 am
I really dont think there are any "top 5" most important mitzvos, i think that is a reform point of view, ( i mean no disrespect my ppls) Comming from a ba'al Tsuva background, i was once conservitive and i remember being tought that some are more important then others, but alas, this is not true, All of htem are just as important as the rest.(im not saying i keep htem all but...comeone..there ARE 600 that i have to keep being a girl..) some are just obsalite, for lack of a better word, untill the third bas hamigdash is built. ((ooo askinazi...ooo)
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Posted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 8:19 am
nathan_ngl mellella ahavas yisroel heart i luv yall biggrin That's a good point xd . When Rabbi Akiva was challenged to explain all of the torah while standing on one foot, Rabbi Akiva replied: "to understand the main concept of judaism, love your fellow jew as you would love yourself. Now go learn the rest of it's laws and details". Ahavas yisroel, unconditional love, and compromising even what is most important to us. exactly...cuz it says in rashi that if you dont love your fellow jew its as if u dont love hashem because hashem loves all jews
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Posted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 9:47 am
Alina Sedai I really dont think there are any "top 5" most important mitzvos, i think that is a reform point of view, ( i mean no disrespect my ppls) Comming from a ba'al Tsuva background, i was once conservitive and i remember being tought that some are more important then others, but alas, this is not true, All of htem are just as important as the rest.(im not saying i keep htem all but...comeone..there ARE 600 that i have to keep being a girl..) some are just obsalite, for lack of a better word, untill the third bas hamigdash is built. ((ooo askinazi...ooo) True, but if you had to rank the mitzvot on a "level of preferance", there actually is a specific ranking to the level of preferance according to halaha. For example, if a person only had enough money to either buy a mezuza or teffilin, which should he buy? If he had only enough for a mezuza or an etrog? These kind of things were written in the gemmara and were expanded later by the rishonim and ahronim (and still are being expanded).
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darkphoenix1247 Vice Captain
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Posted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 2:55 pm
nathan_ngl Alina Sedai I really dont think there are any "top 5" most important mitzvos, i think that is a reform point of view, ( i mean no disrespect my ppls) Comming from a ba'al Tsuva background, i was once conservitive and i remember being tought that some are more important then others, but alas, this is not true, All of htem are just as important as the rest.(im not saying i keep htem all but...comeone..there ARE 600 that i have to keep being a girl..) some are just obsalite, for lack of a better word, untill the third bas hamigdash is built. ((ooo askinazi...ooo) True, but if you had to rank the mitzvot on a "level of preferance", there actually is a specific ranking to the level of preferance according to halaha. For example, if a person only had enough money to either buy a mezuza or teffilin, which should he buy? If he had only enough for a mezuza or an etrog? These kind of things were written in the gemmara and were expanded later by the rishonim and ahronim (and still are being expanded). Aww man- that sounds interesting. Why can't women learn about this stuff? Or offer it as a class or something in college? sad
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