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 Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 8:33 am
I'm not sure how many times this has been covered, and I don't want to be the noob who reasks questions billions of times answered, but I need a little help.
I don't have much money right now, but I want to save up for a new, better guitar. It'll take me a long time to save up, I know, ut I want to have a pretty solid goal to aim for. I like a bunch of the Gibson styles, but they seem too pricey for me right now, so I turned my attention to Fender
Now I'm stuck; I think I want to side with Fender for now, but what guitar to choose in my range (maybe $400 - $700)?
STANDARD STRAT
Pros:
-Is a step up from my current guitar
-I like the body shape and design; the tone/volume knob style and overall guitar look
-I like the sound
Cons:
-It feels a little bit heavier than my current guitar
-Design is copied a LOT
AMERICAN TELECASTER
Pros:
-Also a step from my current guitar
-Unique shape
-I like the sound
-Feels lighter than the strat
Cons:
-I don’t like the knobs and I’m not crazy with the overall design
Any tips? Again, sorry to bother (I’m sure it’s been asked!) but I really don’t know where to turn from here.
Or could you recommend some other brands/models in that price range, or close to? Thanks everyone!
-Sachi
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Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 9:31 am
About the strat. You WANT something heavier, usually. The rule of thumb is the hevier the guitar the better the tone. Also, a tele is a REALLY chancy guitar. I've played some american teles that I like a lot, and some that I hate. If your a beginner looking to take a step up, Ibanez is a good company to look at. They have very good guitars for low prices, and then some amazingly awesome guitars for terrible prices. You may try this guitar. About strat size, shape, and price, but very different in looks. they also play VERY well. A VERY good brand that I'll recomend is Dillion. They are Gibson knockoffs that are quite a bit more less expensive, but just as good. They also do some PRS copycats. PRS is also a good company to look at, but probably out of your price range. I would suggest you go to your local guitar shop and PLAY!!! Just see what you like that's out of the ordinary.
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Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 10:02 am
also don't be affraid to try something out of your price range. if i would have bought a strat, i would have been sorely disappointed the first time i picked up a jaguar. jaquars retail for a bit more than your price range, but my beloved Cyclone II is around $550 and has the same sound. my point, if you find a sound you really like, let to rest of us know and we can try to steer toward another model with the same sound/ feel. Also, don't be afraid to check out the epiphone les pauls! Also, I hear that the Dean Hardtail standard is one hell of a guitar, but it seems to no longer be available online. Check local retailers, it should be aroun $400.
And please, just play as many guitars as you can before buying one!
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Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 11:00 am
Thanks for the replies! Very helpful ^^
I won't be buying for several more months (maybe 4 or 5, I think), but I just wanted to see what I should go for. I want to get all the info I can before making a final choice (I'll be stuck with it for awhile! xd ).
The sound I like... Well, I guess I like a bluesy sound, but what I'm looking for is a pretty versitile guitar. I'd like to be able to play many styles on it, including blues riffs, some hard rock, pop songs, etc.
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Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 5:20 am
I vote Strats. Pick something you're going to be comfortable with for extended periods of time plzthx.
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Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 10:34 am
Sachi_x Thanks for the replies! Very helpful ^^ I won't be buying for several more months (maybe 4 or 5, I think), but I just wanted to see what I should go for. I want to get all the info I can before making a final choice (I'll be stuck with it for awhile! xd ). The sound I like... Well, I guess I like a bluesy sound, but what I'm looking for is a pretty versitile guitar. I'd like to be able to play many styles on it, including blues riffs, some hard rock, pop songs, etc. I would haave to say the Tele but have you looked at some other guitars such as Kramer which is a good guitar company and epiphones are good for a second guitar.
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Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 12:14 pm
A Fat Stratocaster would be perfect
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Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 1:12 pm
SolidSnake7 About the strat. You WANT something heavier, usually. The rule of thumb is the hevier the guitar the better the tone. Also, a tele is a REALLY chancy guitar. I've played some american teles that I like a lot, and some that I hate. If your a beginner looking to take a step up, Ibanez is a good company to look at. They have very good guitars for low prices, and then some amazingly awesome guitars for terrible prices. You may try this guitar. About strat size, shape, and price, but very different in looks. they also play VERY well. A VERY good brand that I'll recomend is Dillion. They are Gibson knockoffs that are quite a bit more less expensive, but just as good. They also do some PRS copycats. PRS is also a good company to look at, but probably out of your price range. I would suggest you go to your local guitar shop and PLAY!!! Just see what you like that's out of the ordinary. This is just out right wrong. Tone is a subjective issue, which cannot by determined by objective aspects, like weight for instance. Just because a Les Paul is heavier than a Strat does in no way mean thay it has a "better" tone. There is no such thing as a better tone, just different ones. EDIT: I would say the standard strat. I have one, and I think it is an amazing price, and if anything, having a copied body style is a good thing, because you have a real one. I haven't tried the American Telecaster, but I have please the American Ash Telecaster. It was great, but I don't think it is worth the price that it is.
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Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 3:43 pm
Yeah, I think I'm leaning towards the strat. There will be other guitars, but for now, I think that's the best. Of course, I still have plenty of time to search, and decide, so I'll very likely be back to this thread.
Thanks again!
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Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 3:48 pm
Sachi_x Yeah, I think I'm leaning towards the strat. There will be other guitars, but for now, I think that's the best. Of course, I still have plenty of time to search, and decide, so I'll very likely be back to this thread. Thanks again! Yeah, It's a good choice because as it's so versitile, it can help you find your sound instead of buying lots of different guitars. And also, if yuo ever want to upgrade it, there are loads of aftermarket parts for it, so you could do almost anything you want to it.
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Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 4:20 pm
James Tanner SolidSnake7 About the strat. You WANT something heavier, usually. The rule of thumb is the hevier the guitar the better the tone. This is just out right wrong. Tone is a subjective issue, which cannot by determined by objective aspects, like weight for instance. Just because a Les Paul is heavier than a Strat does in no way mean thay it has a "better" tone. There is no such thing as a better tone, just different ones. It does, however, tend to have better sustain. That is not tone, though.
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Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 8:36 am
James Tanner SolidSnake7 About the strat. You WANT something heavier, usually. The rule of thumb is the hevier the guitar the better the tone. Also, a tele is a REALLY chancy guitar. I've played some american teles that I like a lot, and some that I hate. If your a beginner looking to take a step up, Ibanez is a good company to look at. They have very good guitars for low prices, and then some amazingly awesome guitars for terrible prices. You may try this guitar. About strat size, shape, and price, but very different in looks. they also play VERY well. A VERY good brand that I'll recomend is Dillion. They are Gibson knockoffs that are quite a bit more less expensive, but just as good. They also do some PRS copycats. PRS is also a good company to look at, but probably out of your price range. I would suggest you go to your local guitar shop and PLAY!!! Just see what you like that's out of the ordinary. This is just out right wrong. Tone is a subjective issue, which cannot by determined by objective aspects, like weight for instance. Just because a Les Paul is heavier than a Strat does in no way mean thay it has a "better" tone. There is no such thing as a better tone, just different ones. EDIT: I would say the standard strat. I have one, and I think it is an amazing price, and if anything, having a copied body style is a good thing, because you have a real one. I haven't tried the American Telecaster, but I have please the American Ash Telecaster. It was great, but I don't think it is worth the price that it is. Sorry, but I have to say that "better" tone is a deeper, more resonant sound. Not something that rattles your bones, just a clear, true note. I may be going on and on...
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Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 8:44 am
Sachi_x I'm not sure how many times this has been covered, and I don't want to be the noob who reasks questions billions of times answered, but I need a little help. I don't have much money right now, but I want to save up for a new, better guitar. It'll take me a long time to save up, I know, ut I want to have a pretty solid goal to aim for. I like a bunch of the Gibson styles, but they seem too pricey for me right now, so I turned my attention to Fender Now I'm stuck; I think I want to side with Fender for now, but what guitar to choose in my range (maybe $400 - $700)? STANDARD STRAT Pros: -Is a step up from my current guitar -I like the body shape and design; the tone/volume knob style and overall guitar look -I like the sound Cons: -It feels a little bit heavier than my current guitar -Design is copied a LOT AMERICAN TELECASTER Pros: -Also a step from my current guitar -Unique shape -I like the sound -Feels lighter than the strat Cons: -I don’t like the knobs and I’m not crazy with the overall design Any tips? Again, sorry to bother (I’m sure it’s been asked!) but I really don’t know where to turn from here. Or could you recommend some other brands/models in that price range, or close to? Thanks everyone! -Sachi The guitar a bit heavier won't be a problem you'll adjust to the more weight after awhile. Its always good to try different weighted guitars so your not just used to the same weight all the time.
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Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 2:02 pm
SolidSnake7 James Tanner SolidSnake7 About the strat. You WANT something heavier, usually. The rule of thumb is the hevier the guitar the better the tone. Also, a tele is a REALLY chancy guitar. I've played some american teles that I like a lot, and some that I hate. If your a beginner looking to take a step up, Ibanez is a good company to look at. They have very good guitars for low prices, and then some amazingly awesome guitars for terrible prices. You may try this guitar. About strat size, shape, and price, but very different in looks. they also play VERY well. A VERY good brand that I'll recomend is Dillion. They are Gibson knockoffs that are quite a bit more less expensive, but just as good. They also do some PRS copycats. PRS is also a good company to look at, but probably out of your price range. I would suggest you go to your local guitar shop and PLAY!!! Just see what you like that's out of the ordinary. This is just out right wrong. Tone is a subjective issue, which cannot by determined by objective aspects, like weight for instance. Just because a Les Paul is heavier than a Strat does in no way mean thay it has a "better" tone. There is no such thing as a better tone, just different ones. EDIT: I would say the standard strat. I have one, and I think it is an amazing price, and if anything, having a copied body style is a good thing, because you have a real one. I haven't tried the American Telecaster, but I have please the American Ash Telecaster. It was great, but I don't think it is worth the price that it is. Sorry, but I have to say that "better" tone is a deeper, more resonant sound. Not something that rattles your bones, just a clear, true note. I may be going on and on... Strats have a bright tone, and in no way have a bone rattling tone. Anyone who gets that must be using a shitty amp, or just can't use it properly.
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Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 4:57 pm
What about this, then; A standart strat, standart strat HH, or a standart strat FR?
Since tone has been debated a bit here, I'm just curious; the bright, clear tone of single-coil pickups, or the "darker", fuller sound of humbuckers? Maybe both? I really don't know much about pickups, so what do you think would be better for the bluesy, yet versitile, sound I'm looking for? That is to say I'm going with the strat, which hasn't been decided. I just want to consider more of my options.
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