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RanmaxHikaru

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 5:07 pm


This is basically my overview of all the girls in Ranma 1/2

Ranma Girl: Looks 10 personality 6 martial arts 10 cooking 6 overall 32
Shampoo: Looks 9 personality 7 martial arts 7 cooking 8 overall 31
Ukyo: Looks 8 personality 9 martial arts 6 cooking 8 overall 31
Kasumi: Looks 8 Personality 10 martial arts 0 cooking 9 overall 27
Nabiki: Looks 7 Personality 6 martial arts 0 cooking 0 overall 13
Akane: Looks 0 personality 5 martial arts 3 cooking 0 overall 8

Although I respect all of your opinions on Akane however I have to say that I HATE HER! I HATE HER! I HATE HER! She's mean, ugly, slow, a bad cook, a led weight in the pool, and most importantly a really REALLY BAD martial artist.

She has ugly short navy blue hair and brown eyes. I think that’s one of the ugliest hair and eye color combinations I have ever seen in an anime character. At least when her hair was long she was decent looking. Also in a real world setting Ranma and Akane would never like each other. Akane's always beating Ranma up for things that are not always his fault and she never gives him the chance to explain himself. While Ranma keeps calling her names like a 12 year old. Akane is also constantly forcing Ranma to eat her cooking even though she herself knows it’s not only bad but piousness. What kind of person forces their fiancée to eat poison? There is also the fact that Ranma loves the martial arts. It's his whole life, so why would anyone that loves the art as much as him like a person that only dose martial arts to beet people up. The only time she trained was in the beginning when she had to beet up the hoard of boys at school. Oh and lets not forget when she trained in the OVA “Akane and her sisters.” In that very OVA Nabiki even said “Akane doesn’t take martial arts seriously. She only jogs to keep in shape.” And the fact that she defeated Natsume and Karumi is total bullshit because one, they have been training their whole lives while Akane only trained for a week, and two because Ranma help her. It’s clearly due to Romunko’s rule that Akane must always win even though she should in all honesty lose. It pissis me off to no end that she has the audacity to say "I'm a martial artist to." She's not a martial artist she's a ******** loser. And last but not least, the whole love plot of Ranma and Akane completely one-sided and unfair. The only reason Ranma likes her is because that’s the only girl he's ever gotten to know well and that’s due to the fact that they are forced to live under the same roof. Ukyo doesn’t count because he thought she was a boy. Romunko Takahashi never once gave Ranma the chance to get to know more about Ukyo or Shampoo as a person. And last but not least could you imagine Ranma and Akane’s kids? They would be ugly, slow, bad cooking, loser martial artists just like their mother. Again if you like Akane for whatever reason I respect that but those are my reasons for hating her.
PostPosted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 1:53 am


First of all, the creator of Ranma 1/2 is named RUMIKO Takahashi. I don't where you got the other name from.

IMO, I think Akane and Ranma are a perfect match for each other. I know Akane can be mean and forceful at times, but she is a very honest and loving girl. Sure, her cooking skills aren't as good as Kasumi's, but she makes Ranma eat her food anyway because she wants him to like it and tell her how she can improve; whether it be martial arts OR cooking.

But Ranma has his bad bits too. You can't just go nagging off Akane without nagging Ranma. The things I don't like about Ranma is that he always picks on the other characters and rushes into things too quickly. It always gets him in trouble and screwed in the end. But luckily, Ranma has Akane to get him out and rescue him in the end! ^__^

They make a great couple no? wink

But if you're not satisfied with Akane being Ranma's fiancee, you can go write and type up a fanfic about another character being Ranma's future bride. Whether it be Shampoo, Ukyo, or some other character. And no character is perfect. You gotta' accept them for who they are and what the author is trying to point out to you. Also, saying you hate a drawing THAT much is a tad bit silly. It's a drawing. It's not real. If you dislike the character, I understand. But if you hate the character or should I say DRAWING, than you're taking it WAY too far.

I respect your opinions and beliefs as well. 3nodding

There's my two cents.

DZDDD


RanmaxHikaru

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 2:11 pm


Inu_Hero
First of all, the creator of Ranma 1/2 is named RUMIKO Takahashi. I don't where you got the other name from.


Spelling error

Inu_Hero
IMO, I think Akane and Ranma are a perfect match for each other. I know Akane can be mean and forceful at times, but she is a very honest and loving girl.


For more then 3/4 of the anime she's a total b***h.

Inu_Hero
Sure, her cooking skills aren't as good as Kasumi's, but she makes Ranma eat her food anyway because she wants him to like it and tell her how she can improve; whether it be martial arts OR cooking.


First of all if Akane wants to test her food on someone then why doesn’t she find someone that’s willing to eat it like Ryouga and second if Ranma doesn’t want to eat then he shouldn’t have to. Who the hell is she to force it down his throat?

Inu_Hero
But Ranma has his bad bits too. You can't just go nagging off Akane without nagging Ranma. The things I don't like about Ranma is that he always picks on the other characters and rushes into things too quickly. It always gets him in trouble and screwed in the end.


I never said that Ranma didnt have his bad points and here is a quote to prove it.
RanmaxHikaru
Akane's always beating Ranma up for things that are not always his fault and she never gives him the chance to explain himself. While Ranma keeps calling her names like a 12 year old.


Inu_Hero
But luckily, Ranma has Akane to get him out and rescue him in the end! ^__^


What are you talking about Ranma is always rescuing Akane because she gets herself into trouble. And when Akane stupidly tries to save Ranma she gets into trouble and then Ranma still has to save her.

Inu_Hero
They make a great couple no? wink


I reapect your opion but no

Inu_Hero
But if you're not satisfied with Akane being Ranma's fiancee, you can go write and type up a fanfic about another character being Ranma's future bride. Whether it be Shampoo, Ukyo, or some other character.


I did make a fanfiction but no one will read it because of everyone seems to be a Ranma and Akane fanatic.

Inu_Hero
And no character is perfect. You gotta' accept them for who they are and what the author is trying to point out to you. .


Yes every character has their faults but Akane has nothing but faults. She's one big fault. The only thing she can do right is bandage up Ranma after an a** kicking.

Inu_Hero
Also, saying you hate a drawing THAT much is a tad bit silly. It's a drawing. It's not real. If you dislike the character, I understand. But if you hate the character or should I say DRAWING, than you're taking it WAY too far.


All characters instill real emotion in it's watchers.

Inu_Hero
I respect your opinions and beliefs as well. 3nodding

There's my two cents.


And I respect yours.
PostPosted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 5:25 pm


Thank you for pointing out my spelling mistake.

And I forgot to mention in my first post that most of the post comes from a fangirl POV. Sorry about that. I thought you would see where I was coming from. And even if Akane does act like a "b***h", and wants Ranma to like her cooking, she still loves Ranma with all of her heart. You can't expect her to be perfect. And you've pointed out a bad point about Ranma by saying he calls Akane names like a twelve year old.

Also, if no one reads your fanfics, keep writing them. I'm sure there's a fan out there somewhere reading it and not putting up a review. And once again, you can't expect everything in a character to be perfect. Also, by patching up Ranma's wounds from his battles, that signifies a caring relationship. And if you hate a character, that's just silly. If you dislike them, I understand completly.

But, this is just a rant. Nobody can win against a rant. But one can definitally retort back. You have your views and I have mine. I'm wrapping this up.

If you don't like a character, that's fine. You have stated your reasons for it and I have gave mine towards them. Even if you have your own views, I wish for you, and everyone else to give characters a chance. Even if the person watching the anime doesn't like them. I respect your opinions and beliefs.

I'm done.

DZDDD


RanmaxHikaru

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 6:39 pm


Inu_Hero
Thank you for pointing out my spelling mistake.


No no that was my spelling errer.

Inu_Hero
And I forgot to mention in my first post that most of the post comes from a fangirl POV. Sorry about that. I thought you would see where I was coming from. And even if Akane does act like a "b***h", and wants Ranma to like her cooking, she still loves Ranma with all of her heart. You can't expect her to be perfect. And you've pointed out a bad point about Ranma by saying he calls Akane names like a twelve year old.

Also, if no one reads your fanfics, keep writing them. I'm sure there's a fan out there somewhere reading it and not putting up a review. And once again, you can't expect everything in a character to be perfect. Also, by patching up Ranma's wounds from his battles, that signifies a caring relationship. And if you hate a character, that's just silly. If you dislike them, I understand completly.

But, this is just a rant. Nobody can win against a rant. But one can definitally retort back. You have your views and I have mine. I'm wrapping this up.

If you don't like a character, that's fine. You have stated your reasons for it and I have gave mine towards them. Even if you have your own views, I wish for you, and everyone else to give characters a chance. Even if the person watching the anime doesn't like them. I respect your opinions and beliefs.

I'm done.


Even though you like Akane I appreciate and respect that fact that you can debated this topic peacefully without trying to chew of my head like other people have in the past.
PostPosted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 8:43 pm


RanmaxHikaru


Even though you like Akane I appreciate and respect that fact that you can debated this topic peacefully without trying to chew of my head like other people have in the past.


Aw, you're welcome. I try. sweatdrop

I enjoy participating in a good debate once in awhile. But most debates and arguements just cheese me off.

DZDDD


Lady_Krysta

PostPosted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 12:37 am


Im more of a Shampoo fan but people like Akane because for once the heroine isnt this petite lil sexy thing thats either too perfect or a dumbass like sailor moon.. For ONCE the main woman is just an average girl (on steriods) but average none the less ..
PostPosted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 12:05 pm


I'm supposing that from both your name and your signature that you're a total RanmaOC fangirl. Nothing wrong with that so long as the OC character isn't a total mary-sue/SIC and is well-written. razz

I usually find traditional pairings a bit dull, so I'm not a huge RanmaAkane fangirl, but I do adore the pairing in its own right and believe that Rumiko-san did the right thing pairing them together in the end.

Besides all that, Rumiko-san is famous for pairings like that and I stand by her. I like all of Akane's faults and more power to her for being able to put up with Ranma's childish behavior at times. razz Points to Ranma for the same thing.

They remind me of an older couple, the way they care for each other even
though they know that the other is not perfect and most of the time a real pain in the a**. Love is not perfect either, it's not all flowers and smiles and happy gushy moments. Love is a very deep emotion that says "Hey, I know you're not perfect, but I still care for you anyway. There is nothing you could do that would make me stop loving you." Doesn't mean that they wouldn't get upset at each other or act childishly (because they do that a lot), it just means that they'll still care for each other even when they're fighting.

I see this as nothing but an immature rant about why you 'hate' a fictional character. Given Akane and Ranma both have faults, yes, but still, Akane's lack of good points in your eyes is no reason to go and blast her.

If you think enough of Akane to 'hate' her as you would a real person, then you should also give her the respect that you would another human being when talking about them. surprised

OtakuSailorV
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 12:29 pm


Akane is one of my favorite character. I rally lke her personality and her attitude and tomboy personality is what makes her cool. Thats just my opinion.
PostPosted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 11:15 pm


Lady_Krysta
Im more of a Shampoo fan but people like Akane because for once the heroine isnt this petite lil sexy thing thats either too perfect or a dumbass like sailor moon.. For ONCE the main woman is just an average girl (on steriods) but average none the less ..


I guess I can see people likeing her for that aspect but Akane seems below average if there is such a thing. I conceder Ukyo to be more of the average person. Her martial arts skill is between Shampoo who is really good and Akane who sucks and that goes for her looks as well. Maybe that’s why I like her so much.

OtakuSailorV
I'm supposing that from both your name and your signature that you're a total RanmaOC fangirl.


I also like Ranma and Shampoo but in all honesty I don't really think Shampoo, Ukyo, or Akane is right for him.

Shampoo would be the best choice out of the three but she can get really annoying with all the drugging and crap.

Ukyo is way to cool and mature for Ranma and no offence to Ranma but someone as cool as her can do much better. I personally think she would be great with Shinnosuke even thought he only showed up in once in an OVA.

And Akane well you already know why I don't like them together.

OtakuSailorV
Nothing wrong with that so long as the OC character isn't a total mary-sue/SIC and is well-written. razz


No my character is anything but a marry sue whee Her parents both were killed when she was only 10 by a man that was probably better at martial arts then Ranma considering that he isn't exactly human. After that she vowed to avenge her parents and so went around the world to train in different martial arts. Ranma is her last stop in her long line of training. She heard about Ranma's defeat of Safron and thinks that if she trains with him she will then be good enough to defeat her parents killer. Because of her parents death and the fact that her whole life has been nothing but training she is very introverted and anti social. She has created a shell around her so that she doesn’t have to get close to people. She is much like Sauske from Naruto and Chun Li from Street fighter. Anyway It takes Ranma of all people to break through her defenses. And at first she tries to beet down her feelings telling herself that such feelings are stupid and will distract her from her goal but as they get to know each other she realizes that she can't beet down the feelings of true love. So for a while the poor girl is going crazy in her mind. I know it's long but that’s her story.

OtakuSailorV
I usually find traditional pairings a bit dull, so I'm not a huge RanmaAkane fangirl, but I do adore the pairing in its own right and believe that Rumiko-san did the right thing pairing them together in the end.


I realize that people who don't like the couple like their dynamic to which I can see where their coming from.

OtakuSailorV
Besides all that, Rumiko-san is famous for pairings like that and I stand by her.


The only other paring that are like Ranma and Akane is Lum and Ataru which I don't like either because Ataru is a total a** hole. Every other Rumiko paring I have no problem with.

OtakuSailorV
I like all of Akane's faults and more power to her for being able to put up with Ranma's childish behavior at times. razz Points to Ranma for the same thing.


That’s what I don't understand Akane sucks at everything and she a mean person on top of that and people still like her. I mean from the very beginning she was the one who was mean to Ranma. Ranma only seems to retaliate after she starts it.

OtakuSailorV
They remind me of an older couple, the way they care for each other even.


I don't even see older couples acting the way they do.

OtakuSailorV
though they know that the other is not perfect and most of the time a real pain in the a**. Love is not perfect either, it's not all flowers and smiles and happy gushy moments. Love is a very deep emotion that says "Hey, I know you're not perfect, but I still care for you anyway. There is nothing you could do that would make me stop loving you." Doesn't mean that they wouldn't get upset at each other or act childishly (because they do that a lot), it just means that they'll still care for each other even when they're fighting.


A couple that fights as much as they do wouldn't last two weeks even if they are in love. With all of that fighting one of them would get burnt out and tired of it all. I know because I have seen only too many couples that have acted just like them.

OtakuSailorV
I see this as nothing but an immature rant about why you 'hate' a fictional character.


I wrote this rant simply because I got tired of going on to Ranma 1/2 threads and getting my head chewed off by immature, rabid, Akane fangirls telling me that I'm stupid and have no reason to dislike Akane.

OtakuSailorV
Given Akane and Ranma both have faults, yes, but still, Akane's lack of good points in your eyes is no reason to go and blast her.


Again everyone has their faults weather real or fiction and if Akane only had a "lack of good points" I probibly wouldn't be putting her down. Akane however is nothing but faults. She can't do anything right except for bandaging Ranma after an a** whopping.

OtakuSailorV
If you think enough of Akane to 'hate' her as you would a real person, then you should also give her the respect that you would another human being when talking about them. surprised


You make it sound like I think about her all the time. And it's not like I have a deep and evil hatred for her. I mean she's a fictional character. Yes I hate her but it's not like if she were real I would try to kill her or something.

RanmaxHikaru

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OtakuSailorV
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 3:05 pm


RanmaxHikaru

OtakuSailorV
Besides all that, Rumiko-san is famous for pairings like that and I stand by her.


The only other paring that are like Ranma and Akane is Lum and Ataru which I don't like either because Ataru is a total a** hole. Every other Rumiko paring I have no problem with.


No, the problematic, constantly-complicated couple is Rumiko-san's forte (along with the boy-that-means-well-but-never-seems-to-get-it-right-type leading male character). Inuyasha/Kagome (Inuyasha: Sengoku O Togi Zoushi), Godai/Kyoko (Maison Ikkoku), Lum/Ataru (Lum), and even Yuta/Manta (Mermaid Saga) - all of whom also argue a lot over misunderstandings only to cause the series to draw out longer.

RanmaxHikaru

OtakuSailorV
I like all of Akane's faults and more power to her for being able to put up with Ranma's childish behavior at times. razz Points to Ranma for the same thing.


That’s what I don't understand Akane sucks at everything and she a mean person on top of that and people still like her. I mean from the very beginning she was the one who was mean to Ranma. Ranma only seems to retaliate after she starts it.


Actually in the beginning she was fine with Ranma, that is until she discovered that Ranma was male when she was taking a bath. Also, she had a right to be angry, since she was being engaged to someone she didn't know at all without her consent. (Gah, what I wouldn't give for the first volume of my manga back! gonk I need it for re-referencing in times like these...*sighs*)

RanmaxHikaru

OtakuSailorV
They remind me of an older couple, the way they care for each other even...


I don't even see older couples acting the way they do.


My grandparents (and a lot of my friends' grandparents too, heck even my own parents). razz They're having their fiftieth wedding anniversary this year, but you'd think that they were brother and sister the way that they bicker and argue over even small things. It's so funny to watch. XD

RanmaxHikaru

OtakuSailorV
...though they know that the other is not perfect and most of the time a real pain in the a**. Love is not perfect either, it's not all flowers and smiles and happy gushy moments. Love is a very deep emotion that says "Hey, I know you're not perfect, but I still care for you anyway. There is nothing you could do that would make me stop loving you." Doesn't mean that they wouldn't get upset at each other or act childishly (because they do that a lot), it just means that they'll still care for each other even when they're fighting.


A couple that fights as much as they do wouldn't last two weeks even if they are in love. With all of that fighting one of them would get burnt out and tired of it all. I know because I have seen only too many couples that have acted just like them.


People are confused by the feeling and true meaning of 'love' these days. Hollywood likes to make it look all nice and frilly and happy all the time, which is true up until the end of the honeymoon. razz

Again, I'd like to reference my own grandparents here. Fifty years together, seven kids, cloth diapers, all that fun stuff.

"But V-chan, maybe you're grandparents were just lucky!" - Maybe, but I don't think so. I run a paper route through a community that is predominantely older couples and many of them act the same, but it's still so very apparant that they love each other and wouldn't be able to go on if the other passed on.

RanmaxHikaru

OtakuSailorV
I see this as nothing but an immature rant about why you 'hate' a fictional character.


I wrote this rant simply because I got tired of going on to Ranma 1/2 threads and getting my head chewed off by immature, rabid, Akane fangirls telling me that I'm stupid and have no reason to dislike Akane.


I'm no Akane-fangirl, but character-bashing in general leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

That is unfortunate, people shouldn't attack others if the first states their views or beliefs in a calm and un-provoked manner. confused I believe in debates, not verbal abuse and fantrolling.

RanmaxHikaru

OtakuSailorV
Given Akane and Ranma both have faults, yes, but still, Akane's lack of good points in your eyes is no reason to go and blast her.


Again everyone has their faults weather real or fiction and if Akane only had a "lack of good points" I probibly wouldn't be putting her down. Akane however is nothing but faults. She can't do anything right except for bandaging Ranma after an a** whopping.


Is it fact that she can't do anything right or is that just your opinion of her abilities?

RanmaxHikaru

OtakuSailorV
If you think enough of Akane to 'hate' her as you would a real person, then you should also give her the respect that you would another human being when talking about them. surprised


You make it sound like I think about her all the time. And it's not like I have a deep and evil hatred for her. I mean she's a fictional character. Yes I hate her but it's not like if she were real I would try to kill her or something.


No, I didn't mean that as in "you think of her all the time," but as "you think of her highly enough to put her behavior on the same level as someone who is truly alive."

Again, I'm not an Akane-fangirl by any means, nor a huge supporter of Ranma/Akane, the thing that draws me here is the simple fact of character-bashing. I dislike bashing in any form, whether it be in reference to real or fictional people/characters. I don't really even understand the concept of "disliking" or even "hating" a fictional character. Then again, I have a hard enough time hating anyone in general. Sure I dislike people, but I don't think I've ever hated someone before...
PostPosted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 3:31 pm


OtakuSailorV
No, the problematic, constantly-complicated couple is Rumiko-san's forte (along with the boy-that-means-well-but-never-seems-to-get-it-right-type leading male character). Inuyasha/Kagome (Inuyasha: Sengoku O Togi Zoushi), Godai/Kyoko (Maison Ikkoku), Lum/Ataru (Lum), and even Yuta/Manta (Mermaid Saga) - all of whom also argue a lot over misunderstandings only to cause the series to draw out longer.


Yuta/Manta, Inuyasha/Kagome, and Godai/Kyoko are 100 times the maturity level of Akane’s behavior. The only other person that is as immature as Akane is Ataru except they changed the violent loud part into being perverted and a two timer.

OtakuSailorV
Actually in the beginning she was fine with Ranma, that is until she discovered that Ranma was male when she was taking a bath. Also, she had a right to be angry, since she was being engaged to someone she didn't know at all without her consent. (Gah, what I wouldn't give for the first volume of my manga back! I need it for re-referencing in times like these...*sighs*)


She walked in on him in the bath. She didn’t even give a warring or knock before barging in. I mean doesn’t she have any sense of privacy. Also after she got a resalable explanation for the sex changing thing, instead of being sympathetic and understanding she goes and call’s him a pervert. She made it sound as if it were all his fault and that he did in on purpose. If I were in Ranma’s situation not only would I retaliate I would beat the crap out of her.

OtakuSailorV
My grandparents (and a lot of my friends' grandparents too, heck even my own parents). They're having their fiftieth wedding anniversary this year, but you'd think that they were brother and sister the way that they bicker and argue over even small things. It's so funny to watch. XD


I’m sure your grandparents don’t call each other flat cheated and pervert. And I’m sure they don’t punch each other in the face or try to feed each other bad food and so on and so fourth.

OtakuSailorV
Is it fact that she can't do anything right or is that just your opinion of her abilities?


Well let’s list the things she can do with the thing’s she can’t do.

Thing’s Akane can’t do
Cook
Martial arts
Swim
Crochet (Remember in the OVA the Tendo Family Christmas Scramble. That scarf she gave Ranma was hideous)

Things she Akane can do
Bandaging Ranma after an a** whopping
Sports (She’s an average player)
Joging

OtakuSailorV
No, I didn't mean that as in "you think of her all the time," but as "you think of her highly enough to put her behavior on the same level as someone who is truly alive."

Again, I'm not an Akane-fangirl by any means, nor a huge supporter of Ranma/Akane, the thing that draws me here is the simple fact of character-bashing. I dislike bashing in any form, whether it be in reference to real or fictional people/characters. I don't really even understand the concept of "disliking" or even "hating" a fictional character. Then again, I have a hard enough time hating anyone in general. Sure I dislike people, but I don't think I've ever hated someone before...


I can tell you where the concept of "hating" a fictional character can come from. Say your watching an anime and you really love the storyline and character development. Then say a character comes along that’s extremely mean, violent, rude, obnoxious, ugly, or Mary Sue and starts making life for the other characters that you like so much miserable. And also say that this character doesn’t change and he/she is still the same all the way through the series. Wouldn’t that irritate the hell you? Well, it irritates me.

RanmaxHikaru

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OtakuSailorV
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 6:27 pm


RanmaxHikaru

OtakuSailorV
No, the problematic, constantly-complicated couple is Rumiko-san's forte (along with the boy-that-means-well-but-never-seems-to-get-it-right-type leading male character). Inuyasha/Kagome (Inuyasha: Sengoku O Togi Zoushi), Godai/Kyoko (Maison Ikkoku), Lum/Ataru (Lum), and even Yuta/Manta (Mermaid Saga) - all of whom also argue a lot over misunderstandings only to cause the series to draw out longer.


Yuta/Manta, Inuyasha/Kagome, and Godai/Kyoko are 100 times the maturity level of Akane’s behavior. The only other person that is as immature as Akane is Ataru except they changed the violent loud part into being perverted and a two timer.


*brings out her manga* You'll have to forgive me for skipping over volume one completely, a foreign exchange student "borrowed" it from me and never returned it, so I'm out by one volume. Again, sorry about that.

Ranma 1/2 vol. 2 - Pg. 18 ~ 39:: Ryoga enters as Pi-chan, Akane takes a liking to the little pig and tells FemaleRanma to take him to the bath with him. Ranma, not knowing that Pi-chan is Ryoga, complies and soon discovers Ryoga's secret. Cut-scene to where FemaleRanma and Pi-chan are running down the hall, FemRanma yelling and throwing things at Pi-chan. Akane steps in, seeing it as only abuse on Ranma's part. Ranma doesn't tell her the entire story behind his reaction because he doesn't want to embarrass Ryoga. ("I won't tell anyone your secret, Ryoga. That's the warriors code.") Akane takes Pi-chan to bed with her after smooching him on the nose; Ranma is visibly upset by this and protests, but Akane, again, does not know WHY he doesn't want her to keep her new piglet-friend.
Later on in the night, Ranma tries to get Ryoga away from Akane while she's sleeping and after a brief struggle, lands on top of Akane in her bed with Pi-chan on his back. akane acts accordingly, striking him because, heck, any girl would be just as surprised and willing to strike out when something like that happens.

Inuyasha vol. 1 Pg. 124 - 131:: Probably the most famous scene, the one where Inuyasha is punished with an "osuwari" by Kagome when she spies him watching her while she's bathing after the fight with the demon crow. Afterward she's sitting by the little pond and Inuyasha orders her to 'take her clothes off,' meaning that he didn't want to see her dressed like Kikyou. Kagome gets pissed (and rightly so) and gives him a rock to the head.

vol.26 Pg. 13 - 19:: Inuyasha and Kikyou speak after their encounter with Suikotsu of the Shichinintai. Kagome is bothered but decides not to voice it and acts as if nothing happens. Inuyasha notices though and can't help but go and bother Kagome even though Miroku had advised him to leave her be for the time being. She brushes off his comments but he continues to hound her and finally she explodes.
"So you ARE mad!"
"Osuwari!...Osuwari, Osuwari, Osuwari! Idiot, idiot, idiot!"
"Sto-o-o-o-p!!"

Maison Ikkoku vol.1 Pg. 34 - 36:: Ms. Otonashi (Kyoko) falls asleep on the roof after working on patching a leak. Godai sneaks up on the roof and tries to wake her, but it's starts raining. She jumps up when it begins to rain and is about to run off the roof in order to fetch her laundry in before it gets wet. Godai catches her before she gets a few feet, yelling for her to stop and can't help but put his hand over her breast in the process. Despite his original good intention, he ends up getting slapped.

Mermaid Saga vol.2:: I won't site the pages here, but it's the very last story in this volume and at both the beginning and the end Mana shows a hint of jealousy towards Yuta's relationship with the un-dead girl, Nae.

There are other such instances of immature bickery, but I'm tired and there's too much to cover right now. (In other words, just that much was a challenge to my short attention span. razz )

RanmaxHikaru

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Actually in the beginning she was fine with Ranma, that is until she discovered that Ranma was male when she was taking a bath. Also, she had a right to be angry, since she was being engaged to someone she didn't know at all without her consent. (Gah, what I wouldn't give for the first volume of my manga back! I need it for re-referencing in times like these...*sighs*)


She walked in on him in the bath. She didn’t even give a warring or knock before barging in. I mean doesn’t she have any sense of privacy. Also after she got a resalable explanation for the sex changing thing, instead of being sympathetic and understanding she goes and call’s him a pervert. She made it sound as if it were all his fault and that he did in on purpose. If I were in Ranma’s situation not only would I retaliate I would beat the crap out of her.


Ah, thanks for the correction there. I didn't have my volume one for re-reference as I was typing and it's been a while since I'd read it. razz

Indeed, Akane's behavior in that scene was a bit testy. However, I don't think she was aware that anyone was in the bath at the time and so didn't even think about it when she entered. It's not uncommon for girls to take baths together in Japan, and considering the house is full of mostly the female sex, she probably had no idea (or it didn't even cross her mind) that a man would be on the other side of the door even if she was aware someone WAS in there.

And after finding out such a thing, what girl WOULDN'T immediately think that the male in question had hidden his 'gender issue' in order to spy upon other girls while bathing/changing/etc. Ranma covers it up by calling her 'macho' and 'flat-chested' and of course never had that thought in mind, but still, Akane had a right to still be suspicious of him. I would have been and I'm sure you would have been to if you were in that situation.

RanmaxHikaru

OtakuSailorV
My grandparents (and a lot of my friends' grandparents too, heck even my own parents). They're having their fiftieth wedding anniversary this year, but you'd think that they were brother and sister the way that they bicker and argue over even small things. It's so funny to watch. XD


I’m sure your grandparents don’t call each other flat cheated and pervert. And I’m sure they don’t punch each other in the face or try to feed each other bad food and so on and so fourth.


Haha, no, but they do argue about trivial things that really shouldn't matter and they call each other 'idiot' and are constantly saying that the other 'doesn't know what he/she is talking about.' "He's/She's senile!"

For instance, the other day we were at my cousins birthday party and they had Lee's chicken there because that's grandfather's favorite. (He's VERY particular about food and complains just a little loudly if he dislikes something.) Grandfather, however, was not aware from the beginning it was Lee's and so stated that it wasn't Lee's chicken because the chicken "tasted like s**t." And so started a long argument between grandma and grandpa at the dinner table about not only the chicken at hand, but his weird food habits among other things.

An older couple that are on my paper route argue every time I come to collect from them. "It's not over there!"
"The wind blew it off the door, hun, I'm sorry."
"No it didn't! I took it down last night because it was supposed to rain."
"What? But I found it on the doorstep earlier."
"You're senile!" *marches off*
*waits till she is gone* "She's senile..."

It's actually rather amusing for me, but it does become a bit tedious.

RanmaxHikaru

OtakuSailorV
Is it fact that she can't do anything right or is that just your opinion of her abilities?


Well let’s list the things she can do with the thing’s she can’t do.

Thing’s Akane can’t do
Cook
Martial arts
Swim
Crochet (Remember in the OVA the Tendo Family Christmas Scramble. That scarf she gave Ranma was hideous)

Things she Akane can do
Bandaging Ranma after an a** whopping
Sports (She’s an average player)
Joging


I haven't seen/read enough of the series to really say much here. I believe she has some capabilities, but I'm too tired to consult my manga at this time.

RanmaxHikaru

OtakuSailorV
No, I didn't mean that as in "you think of her all the time," but as "you think of her highly enough to put her behavior on the same level as someone who is truly alive."

Again, I'm not an Akane-fangirl by any means, nor a huge supporter of Ranma/Akane, the thing that draws me here is the simple fact of character-bashing. I dislike bashing in any form, whether it be in reference to real or fictional people/characters. I don't really even understand the concept of "disliking" or even "hating" a fictional character. Then again, I have a hard enough time hating anyone in general. Sure I dislike people, but I don't think I've ever hated someone before...


I can tell you where the concept of "hating" a fictional character can come from. Say your watching an anime and you really love the storyline and character development. Then say a character comes along that’s extremely mean, violent, rude, obnoxious, ugly, or Mary Sue and starts making life for the other characters that you like so much miserable. And also say that this character doesn’t change and he/she is still the same all the way through the series. Wouldn’t that irritate the hell you? Well, it irritates me.


I suppose so...I dunno, I find complicated romances like this rather humorous and since she was an original character, not someone that randomly appeared late in the series (or is some random filler-episode character), I'm somewhat attached to her. Er, well 'attached' isn't the right word, but it best expresses what I have to say here. What I mean to say is that even though I'm a supporter of Ryoga/Akane as my fan!pairing, I accept the fact that Ranma/Akane is the way things turned out in the end. I've yet to see the final volumes though, I've been slacking on my Ranma 1/2 manga keep-up.

This is a fun debate, I've not been able to do this for quite some time, thank you for the hard-work. ^^
PostPosted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 7:28 pm


A Ryouga and Akane fan??? confused Interesting there aren’t too many of those around.

All of the Ranma 1/2 volumes have been scanlated for at least four years now. I would put the site here but I don't think I'm allowed so I'll just pm it to you. But just be warned I didn't think the ending was all that good.

RanmaxHikaru

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 7:36 pm


Haha, yepp, that's me. razz I'm always a fan of weird and obscure pairings.

Hey thanks! I'll be sure and put it to good use later. ^^
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