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 Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2004 11:35 pm
I was recently in a fight; after quite some time of not having to fight. Anyways, I came to the realization afterwards that although I escaped without a scratch I actually deviated slightly from my formal training. I know that although I research other art forms and schedule my training around their training styles, I didn't think that my formal training would be affected. Anybody have the same problem?
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Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2004 4:55 am
aikido_samurai I was recently in a fight; after quite some time of not having to fight. Anyways, I came to the realization afterwards that although I escaped without a scratch I actually deviated slightly from my formal training. I know that although I research other art forms and schedule my training around their training styles, I didn't think that my formal training would be affected. Anybody have the same problem? I once had a fight and whilst I wasn't hurt at all I didn't once try and hit the bloke. I was really drunk at the time and I just stood there blocking and ducking, i was so suprised that this guy was actually trying to hit me I didn't bother hitting him back. It was really odd, and I suspect if I was sober I would have really hurt or hospitalised him. I guess not hitting him was right from an ethical/legal point of view but was completely at odds with any self defence I've learnt...
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Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2004 9:24 pm
I'm usually very non confrontational, but sometimes, my anger really does get the better of me. sweatdrop
I haven't been in a fight in years, but the last time I was, I took the guy down really quickly....basically, he kept yelling at me and shoving me and at the time, I was pissed off as hell so I sort of egged him on.. he wound up and tried to take a swing at me but I ducked, low round house to the knee, which buckled him, then over hand right, that knocked him straight to the ground. that was the end of it. my friend grabbed me at that point and dragged me out of the bar we were at. once we were outside, I cooled off, but I heard they threw the kid out the back. we weren't allowed back in the rest of the night so I really don't know what happened to him..
the thing with me is I'm a kickboxer..have been for most of my life...a large majority of my training revolves around sparring other people, so it's become natural to me to I guess fall back on my training when in such a situation.
honestly, it isn't really my proudest moment. looking back, there are things I could have done to avoid the fight, but I was in a foul mood and he looked like he was looking for one too. sweatdrop
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Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2004 2:16 am
when i was doing ju jitsu, my sensei realized that at the time i was not very fast, so he trained me to be able to take alot of hits and not feel the pain, also he taught me how to sucker-punch, JU JITSU STYLE! So when this guy messed with me I just sucker punched him; when i look back on it now, I realized it wasn't really worth it, the guy had a glass jaw anyways (not literaly, of course). But when someone is drunk and harrassing girls, my ethical meter goes to 10 and i feel that I should show them the error of their ways.
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Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2004 4:36 am
There are people who train for years and when they finally do get into a real fight, their training goes right out the window. There was an incident with two tae kwon do instructors got into a fight and it turned into a slap fest. Nobody knows really what they would do in a real fight until it happens. I've been in one too many, and tend to fight really "dirty", but it ends the situation quickly, and usually no one is really badly hurt.
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Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2004 7:24 am
I got into a fight once with my brother (we were just playing but we ended up hurting each other sweatdrop ). I've done Hapkido and he's doing Tae Kwon Do and we didn't use any of the moves on each other (except when I did that turn back fist on his back and sidekicked him on his stomach. That put him on the floor hehehe...). It seems like some people just forget things when something happens I guess.
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Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2004 1:11 pm
Well there are a couple reasons why someone will not use some of their martial arts training. One, when you get in the fight you get so pissed off that your anger gets the better of you so you tend to fight more wildly and less concentrated. Another reason is that you neglect to use the more flowery moves because you do not see an opening to use it in a real fight. When it comes right down to it, the most effective things you learn in martial arts are the base moves of your style that are the easiest and most effective to use.
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Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2004 1:51 pm
Anyone familiar with the "Oh s**t" factor?
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Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2004 2:13 am
Bruce-Ganked-Lee Anyone familiar with the "Oh s**t" factor? hell yeah, when you're involved in something serious the amount of adrenilin that gets dumped into your system is quite scary, you go straight into reptilian fight or flight reflex mode, sounds get distorted and you get severe tunnel vision, all those things aren't good for remembering correct technique. On the plus side when you're in that state pain becomes a nagging anoyance if you even notice it. I think thats why I love sparring and competition, I'm addicted to the adrenilin buzz biggrin
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Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2004 11:02 am
DarklingGlory Bruce-Ganked-Lee Anyone familiar with the "Oh s**t" factor? hell yeah, when you're involved in something serious the amount of adrenilin that gets dumped into your system is quite scary, you go straight into reptilian fight or flight reflex mode, sounds get distorted and you get severe tunnel vision, all those things aren't good for remembering correct technique. On the plus side when you're in that state pain becomes a nagging anoyance if you even notice it. I think thats why I love sparring and competition, I'm addicted to the adrenilin buzz biggrin I think this would help explain my one problem i have then. When I'm about to get into a hastle situation, my gut tells me to back off but something tells me take care of it. I think my ying and yang comes into effect here, and for some reason i like to think of DARK thoughts. WHY.....I don't know, someone tell me how to control it better. sad
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Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2004 1:59 am
Ryu01 DarklingGlory Bruce-Ganked-Lee Anyone familiar with the "Oh s**t" factor? hell yeah, when you're involved in something serious the amount of adrenilin that gets dumped into your system is quite scary, you go straight into reptilian fight or flight reflex mode, sounds get distorted and you get severe tunnel vision, all those things aren't good for remembering correct technique. On the plus side when you're in that state pain becomes a nagging anoyance if you even notice it. I think thats why I love sparring and competition, I'm addicted to the adrenilin buzz biggrin I think this would help explain my one problem i have then. When I'm about to get into a hastle situation, my gut tells me to back off but something tells me take care of it. I think my ying and yang comes into effect here, and for some reason i like to think of DARK thoughts. WHY.....I don't know, someone tell me how to control it better. sad You just have to understand its your reptilian brain kicking in at a very basic level and telling you to either eliminate the threat or run away from it, by making you very agressive or very afraid, you want to run away but at the same time you want to hit them. As long as you understand whats going on you're far more prepared to deal with it
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Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2004 12:21 pm
Check out this month's issue of Men's Health magazine (Nelly is on the cover). In the Man to Man section a write talks about when he was 15 and had to deal with a bully. The article is well written and covers what we're talking about.
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Posted: Sun Sep 26, 2004 5:16 pm
Theres nothing wrong with diverging from your fighting style. My strongpoint is footwork and kicking. But a wins a win. I'll take a win by a rear naked choke hold over a loss where I used kicks any day.
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Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2004 2:18 pm
aikido_samurai when i was doing ju jitsu, my sensei realized that at the time i was not very fast, so he trained me to be able to take alot of hits and not feel the pain, also he taught me how to sucker-punch, JU JITSU STYLE! So when this guy messed with me I just sucker punched him; when i look back on it now, I realized it wasn't really worth it, the guy had a glass jaw anyways (not literaly, of course). But when someone is drunk and harrassing girls, my ethical meter goes to 10 and i feel that I should show them the error of their ways. Yeah.. or the other way around. I as a girl, gets harrassed by some stupid drunk. My sanity just jumps out the window.. I can't take guys believing that womans are TOYS for them to use! I've only been in one ("real") fight, and that was on a subway station. There wasn't any cameras, so the wierdo who harrassed me, probably did so because he knew no one could see him do it. Of course I became angry. Before I knew what I'd done, I had round kicked him with "tornado" (he followed me and tried to grope me even though I told him to leave me alone) and sweeped(you say that in english?) him to the ground. Luckily for me, he got dazed by the impact from when he hit the ground and I jumped on the next train that arrived to the station. I called for a cab that night ( I took the train in the wrong direction), I didn't want to pass that station again. What surprised me most was that I used techniques I learned as a 8 year old. I guess that when you're getting in a fight, your brain only remembers the most basic moves that you use on pure reflex. Also that I got agressive surprises me. I'm a buddhist and I'm not taught in the way of offense and agressitivity(sp?). I don't know if this was much of "real life fighting styles", but that's what happened me.
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Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2004 5:22 pm
Doubled Duce Theres nothing wrong with diverging from your fighting style. My strongpoint is footwork and kicking. But a wins a win. I'll take a win by a rear naked choke hold over a loss where I used kicks any day. Exactly. I mean at this point in my training, my straight out grappling training is miniscule compared to the amount of counter fighting, wristlocking, and nerve pinching. But often times those aren't practical techniques for street fights..... My two friends are always messing with me... One of them is a marine, the other is a climber so he has alot of upper body, hand, leg, and back strength. I always end up resorting to grappling because it comes naturally to me I guess. Its kind of hard to comprehend because often times I can hold them both off as long as I avoid the ground, and even then they cant contend...... Its all about that philosophy "Keep what's useful, dispose of what's useless..." In a givin situation that is....
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