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I think this is an example of why I hate Nationalism.

I agree with Sweens in that it definetely wouldnt surprise me if eventually an anti-Israel coalition is formed and tries to blow it off the map....and as far as North Korea goes, notice how Bush is mighty quick to talk of diplomacy when he's kind of in a fix as far as troop numbers go....on a lighter note, did anyone see where Bush told President Putin they should switch to a democratic system like Iraq and Putin and the entire audience pretty much laughed Bush off stage?

It will turn into a full scale war, yes. Additionally, an anti-Isreal coalition already exsists in a very informal way in the middle east. It will be the end of many Islamic states, but not in the way that everyone would expect. Its funny that all this is happening, I think the hope is that this is a sign of the end of the word.....from a biblical stand point that is. I agree with the bible, I think that soon peace will be on its way. To quote "The Matrix" (sorry, cant help myself) "Its not a matter of hope, its just a matter of time".....

Lets just see though if Isreal does the unthinkable.....watch they will take all of thier land back that they had from the first war over there. After that Iran will not be the most vocal, Turkey will be. Here in not to much more time Russia will also allow an Islamic state in the south to exsist. Doubt me if you wish, but everything the bible says is comming true there.

Anyway, dont bother to pm me or superscript my post, Im not on here enough to even be a casual poster. Just think about it.

Isreal will kick all of the Middle-Easts bums as before. It's why nationalism and religion stink. It's a local problem and they shouldn't (and proud Iran won't) seek foriegn help. Wide spread alliances started WWI which to II. Either Isreal will get stronger or be wiped out, it's not a global problem.

and why do i see nobody calling for a revolution of the arab and jewish working classes?

They're too Nationalistic.

ooooooor, one could just look at the fact that as of 2003, israel had 550 000 soldiers registed, witht he ability to mobilite double that again over a week. compare that to lebanon's military, at the same time it was about 70 000... if israel wanted, and it's the only country there to have nukes...

and yes mann, you are right. people just look at this and go "evil israelis attacking arabs" or the converse "go israelis, defend your right to exist".
no one ever looks at it and asks what is the only solution to this: an end to racial antagonism. what causes this: capitalism, how do we fix it then? get rid of capitalism!

but, there is a slight difference here. it is not just two pathetic states attacking each other. what we have is a fortress state, backed, politicaly, economicaly and militarilly by imperialism. so, i guess the only thing to call for is : defend lebanon! for israeli troops to turn the guns the other way, turn the war of annexation into a civil war!