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Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2005 4:42 pm
If you are attracted to someone, is it their body or their personality? Now we are not talking about after having gotten to know them, but instead the very first flush of attraction. Now I happen to believe that in this day and age most are attracted to the body instead of the mind. Just take a look at ads and shows, for example. Do you ever see a obese((No offense)) person leaning on a muscle car in front of a magazine? OR do you see that same person selling bathing suits on tv? Their personality counts for what? Damned little to marketers and the lot. When did this happen? What use is a fabulous body with the intelligence capacity of a doorknob? ITs a damned disgrace that is what is. Nobody cares how good or kind a person who are anymore, just so long as your tits or d**k is the right size and your trim. I for one am sick and tired of it. I'll admit as readily as anyone that I used to think like that. When I was ******** thirteen!! Then I grew up and got a little maturity, and realized beauty is indeed only skin deep. The only beauty in this world anymore, to me, is when somebody can realize that everything isn't about sex. Remember that tired old saying that men only think with their smaller head? Well guess what? Everybody((Almost))in mainstrem media has that problem, men and women. The world is in the hands of adults whose minds are ran by hormones from when they were adoloscents. All who ever see anymore is sex sex sex. Damnit how about trying to sell a car on its merits, instead of the person's standing in front of it? Or is that too radical? I'm sorry if it seems like I'm ranting but by God somebody bloody well has to!!! I think that its past time that a little maturity was injected into the world. By hypodermic needle or hammer, I don't care. If you think I'm overreacting then thats fine,. Go find a damn porn stand and leave me the hell alone!!!! I swear the next guy that comes up to me at work and say"Hey look at this nudy site I found!" I am going to ******** come unglued. Does the human brain even operate on anything else anymore? Or maybe its just degenerated too far to grasp anything else. Look at child porn for a point. Used to be you would ever see it and if you did, the offender was hung before you realized that was why. Now though they get free meals cable tv and running water and a free roof. Sometimes I'm torn between shooting myself and blowing the rest of the world to hell from the moon. I'm sorry this got off topic so I'm going to stop and go scream at people.
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Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2005 6:02 pm
...Hmmmm, I'm thirteen and know that beauty is only skin deep. In fact, I treat the people who "hot" and think that they can do what ever they want worse than normal people. And the thing about thinking with your smaller head.. Well its natural for peopel want to sex with the best women.
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Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2005 6:37 pm
ImNotaFashionStatment ...Hmmmm, I'm thirteen and know that beauty is only skin deep. In fact, I treat the people who "hot" and think that they can do what ever they want worse than normal people. And the thing about thinking with your smaller head.. Well its natural for peopel want to sex with the best women. Sorry. I was laboring under strong emotion. I made generalizations.
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Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2005 8:38 am
It's quite apparent you were laboring under strong emotions (chuckles).
I believe that generally speaking, females do not judge as superficially as males do. While I haven't seen a study specifically stating this, just look at our culture and it is so obvious we need no study. Which is the more physically sexualized and objectified sex? Yeah. That's what I thought. stare
You really have to train yourself to think outside of the cultural norm. I think that's too bad. Personally, I don't give a S* how good a guy looks if he doesn't pass my tests. Most of the ones that do okay on the tests so far haven't been the macho boys whom are stereotypically the 'most' desirable with their flaunting of masculinity. Since I've worked hard in training myself against judging by looks, by and large, I don't. I WILL judge on how they dress, to a degree, because that's something they choose (can't choose physical apperance). So if I see a guy/girl wearing a T-shirt with a dragon on it I know "Hey... potential friend here!" Most people tend to dress to advertize themselves to different social groups, intentionally or not.
Maybe after a few more people post I'll make a side note about the attribution error and the halo effect....
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Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2005 3:32 pm
Agreed -- a negative personality is the biggest turnoff.
I believe that treating a person according to their looks is terribly wrong. Which means they can be either very ugly or very attractive -- but your treatment of them should not differ.
It has been proven that sex is an enjoyable activity. Sexual activities promote our own physical pleasure. Sometimes our attraction towards things of a sexual nature is one that is incredibly difficult to resist. (An inability to resist this urge is not a weakness however.) In a world where people will take advantage of our attraction to sex, it is very important to be able to keep a clear and level head in order to make the correct decisions regarding our life.
-Alezunde
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Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2005 3:55 pm
Starlock Personally, I don't give a S* how good a guy looks if he doesn't pass my tests. Are you speaking hypotheticaly, or are you a girl?
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Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2005 7:31 pm
wolf-larsen Do you ever see a obese((No offense)) person leaning on a muscle car in front of a magazine? The reason attractive people are associated with cars (and anything else being sold, really) is that the seller is hoping the viewer will make a subliminal connection between the two and interpret the ad as "buy this car and beautiful women will love you/you will become attractive." What sort of subliminal messages would the viewer recieve if they associated the car with something undesirable or unattractive?
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Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2005 9:48 pm
ImNotaFashionStatment Starlock Personally, I don't give a S* how good a guy looks if he doesn't pass my tests. Are you speaking hypotheticaly, or are you a girl? Now, my biological sex shouldn't really matter, should it? wink As far as gender goes, there's no doubt the average person would label me the opposite of what I am biologically. So... would that make me... both? question (laughs) Okay, okay, I'll stop messing with your head now. whee Anyway, something Alezunde said I feel needs a bit more commenting on, because I think it's an important point. That would be about the enjoyability of sex, and that is definately a big thing that plays into how we seek out other people of the opposite (or in some cases the same) sex. The typical society, for better or worse, tends to encourage us to repress these sorts of desires. So instead of having free sex as a bonding activity, we have men and women playing with themselves to pornography. Better? Worse? Who knows. It sure creates some amusing phemonenon in the nature of humanity to observe and laugh at, that's for sure. whee
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Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2005 10:50 pm
Starlock The typical society, for better or worse, tends to encourage us to repress these sorts of desires. Much to our detriment, I believe. The repression of any emotion of desire has usually led to an unhealthy imbalance of some sort. -Alezunde
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Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2005 9:00 am
I think there's a balance to be had here. Some supression is quite beneficial. Depending on one's faith of 'morality' that balance can be found, but it can be hard in a society that mostly leans quite heavily on supression of emotions in general (especially for men). Ironic how America's slight preocupation on withholding emotions makes its collective psyche seem somewhat sociopathic.... xp
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Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2005 10:37 am
Starlock I think there's a balance to be had here. Some supression is quite beneficial. Depending on one's faith of 'morality' that balance can be found, but it can be hard in a society that mostly leans quite heavily on supression of emotions in general (especially for men). Ironic how America's slight preocupation on withholding emotions makes its collective psyche seem somewhat sociopathic.... xp ((Yeah sociopathic is the word alright. A million foriegners die, sure we'll send money and cry with you, but let an American get killed and your a** is grass, literally. But this is another topic altogether. Sorry.)) The repression was a good point. I am not saying that sex is bad or wrong or anything like that. I enjoy it myself from time to time. But when it gets so prevalent that children the age of 4 and sometimes younger come up to me and start talking about them and their "girlfriend/ boyfriend" had sex, then that is too much. ((Starlock, the reason you see more naked women than men is because the womanly body is beautiful, while the male is hairy lumpy and should not be seen by the light of day. xd ))
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Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2005 6:01 pm
wolf-larsen The repression was a good point. I am not saying that sex is bad or wrong or anything like that. I enjoy it myself from time to time. But when it gets so prevalent that children the age of 4 and sometimes younger come up to me and start talking about them and their "girlfriend/ boyfriend" had sex, then that is too much. eek Well, I've never had personal experience in hearing something like this, and I suspect it is terribly rare and they're probably lying. Four year olds? Sex? Hell, they don't even know the MEANING of the word most of the time, much less the deeper implications of it. sweatdrop I'm not gonna touch this one with a ten foot pole... xd wolf-larsen ((Starlock, the reason you see more naked women than men is because the womanly body is beautiful, while the male is hairy lumpy and should not be seen by the light of day. xd )) Now THAT is a matter of opinion, isn't it? (grins)
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Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2005 12:01 pm
Starlock wolf-larsen ((Starlock, the reason you see more naked women than men is because the womanly body is beautiful, while the male is hairy lumpy and should not be seen by the light of day. xd )) Now THAT is a matter of opinion, isn't it? (grins) 1. Amen, amen. e_e 2. Partially, that's the only way some people will get approached or have a successful approach; one will face craploads of discomfort being with a beer-bellied stubble monger. However, perversion extending down to the little kids is a result of the above. Hentai, anyone? BULLS**T. If the only reason FFX-2 got sold at all is because of White Mage Dresspheres... More often than not, the only way to get any is to look good. Not only by snazzy clothes; a little cleavage with a teeny loincloth to cover both ends of the field is sure to get this culture. What is a relationship worth if a good-sized wad of cash (and silicon) can get something done? People have been trained since the 30's to look for the physical, not the mental.(Before then, you didn't have to do a thing, the parents did.) People can't really think for themselves. We have these luxuries to free ourselves to more rank ideas. People are pleasure-seekers, thus the idea of sex. Sex=Pleasure, so, if Sex=the new sports car, then Pleasure=Sports car.
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Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2005 12:04 pm
Starlock wolf-larsen The repression was a good point. I am not saying that sex is bad or wrong or anything like that. I enjoy it myself from time to time. But when it gets so prevalent that children the age of 4 and sometimes younger come up to me and start talking about them and their "girlfriend/ boyfriend" had sex, then that is too much. eek Well, I've never had personal experience in hearing something like this, and I suspect it is terribly rare and they're probably lying. Four year olds? Sex? Hell, they don't even know the MEANING of the word most of the time, much less the deeper implications of it. sweatdrop I'm not gonna touch this one with a ten foot pole... xd wolf-larsen ((Starlock, the reason you see more naked women than men is because the womanly body is beautiful, while the male is hairy lumpy and should not be seen by the light of day. xd )) Now THAT is a matter of opinion, isn't it? (grins) My point in the prior statement being that should someone that young know the word? I didn't when I was four, but then I may have been overly sheltered, though I don't really think that is the case.
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Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2005 3:39 pm
Starlock I think there's a balance to be had here. Some supression is quite beneficial. Depending on one's faith of 'morality' that balance can be found, but it can be hard in a society that mostly leans quite heavily on supression of emotions in general (especially for men). Ironic how America's slight preocupation on withholding emotions makes its collective psyche seem somewhat sociopathic.... xp Agreed. I think that in everything, balance is essential. A radical in either direction can cause some significant troubles. In this case suppression is not the answer, as with suppression we can never become familiar with ourselves -- because sexual urges are very much a part of who we are. However, letting these urges run rampant can cause just as much damage -- sex has an emotional impact that you never hear about, among other factors. -Alezunde
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