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Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 11:21 am
Some say vampires are fake, some say they aren't. I personally think they are there but not in the way most people would think. But alas I only know a little about vampiric beliefs systems.
1.Be sure you have a willing donor 2.Promote order and live peacefully in socety 3. Don't go around sucking from people unawares.
I think i've missed some stuff. but I want to clear things up beliefs system wise as the guild gets started up, as soon as there are sub forums I will divide everything up, that will be a hugeeeeeee help, then christians can talk to christians and other kin can talk about other kin and so on and so on. ACCEPTING DONATIONS!!!!!!! Hehehe, well, back on topic. Have any of you guys ever met up with a vampire? I know a few from this site, I know someone who claimed to be a vampire but was easy to tell him being a faker in real life, but other than that that's it for me.
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Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 2:42 pm
*rubs her temples* Ok..Perhaps I should begin by attempting to clarify things a tad. There is Vampirism, as in HLVs(Human Living Vampires), as in people who feel that they need to draw energy from other sources in order to maintain their well-being, etc. I get the impression that this is what this thread is about. But, I had to bring this up because there is also a cult which claims to be Vampiric in nature..and they're not. This organization, if you will(Cult sounds like such a harsh word! I don't want to offend anyone, but I don't know what else to call it! gonk ), don't believe at all in bloodletting, and its followers are pretty much taking in energies in which they do not need and its followers do not have the energy deficiency issue that HLVs do.. If requested, I will cite the resource site for this.. "Religious Organization"..if you will.. As you can tell, these two things are NOT TO BE CONFUSED as they are EXTREMELY DIFFERENT. HLVs are not immortal, and are basically JUST LIKE EVERYONE ELSE, minus their energy deficiency and need to take in energy from other sources. As for have I met any HLVs? Yeah, I have. Mostly online, though. But, that's because I usually seek out communities where discussions about HLVs and such take place. 3nodding Oh, and the stuff that's capitalized, minus "HLV" is capitalized for emphasis..
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Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 11:12 am
I have never met an HLV before. I hate when people only think of vampires as they see them on TV and in movies. Fairy stories people hear as children greatly influence their type of belief in these types of things. As well as how their parents raised them... but that's a whole other topic.
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Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 1:19 pm
My housemates girlfriends ex believed he was a vampire. However, I think the concept of a metaphor was lost on him because he actually started drinking blood. Forgive me if I am wrong but it seems that these kinds of people have just taken the popular culture concept of a vampire a little too far. Or they are just big fat posers who think this is what real vampires do...
Seems to me that being a HLV would be an extreme of extroverted nature. Drawing apon the energies of others.
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Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 4:46 pm
Calm_As_Hindu_Cow My housemates girlfriends ex believed he was a vampire. However, I think the concept of a metaphor was lost on him because he actually started drinking blood. Forgive me if I am wrong but it seems that these kinds of people have just taken the popular culture concept of a vampire a little too far. Or they are just big fat posers who think this is what real vampires do... Seems to me that being a HLV would be an extreme of extroverted nature. Drawing apon the energies of others. Well, there are some HLVs who do drink blood. It's a feeding preference of theirs as blood is so rich in pranic energy, which is the type of energy that ll HLVs are deficient of. Sanguinarians/Sanguivores(both terms mean the same thing; a blood feeder) can learn, however, how to take in energy through psionic means. It's just harder for them, and psionic feeding doesn't quite fulfil their hunger as much as, say, drinking about a tablespoon or less of blood(which is the approximate amount that a sang would consume during a feed) would. I've only met the psionic variety in person, although I've conversed with sanguinarians online. Psi-vamps are, based off my experience with them(that's not to say that there ISN'T an extroverted HLV somewhere..I just haven't met any yet if there are), generally more introverted people. Though, they can do extroverted things to acquire the energies they need. Like performing onstage or something. There are also some HLVs who aren't even aware that they psifeed. It's because they're subconsious Psi-feeders. Now, there are people who take the pop culture concept of Vampires and take it WAY too far. This would be like this one cult I read about in Wisconsin somewhere that used to hold people at knife point and feed from them against their will. I've no idea if those people were HLVs, and they probably werent, but they were a bunch of crazies. Apparently whenever headlights were shone on them, they'd hiss and run off. Then you have the lifestylers, the posers, and the Live Action RPers who don't know when to stop the act. It's the small group of crazies who earn the bad publicity that ruin it for anyone who decides to identify with the word "vampire". Though, I often wonder why the community decided to call themselves Vampires. From the HLVs that I've conversed with, they often agree that it seems like it was a bad idea in retrospect. My guess is it's because of the Pop Culture interpretation of the word "vampire" that the community has so much trouble dealing with posers and psychos and such. And the hunters who've watched too many Buffy episodes.(*sigh* Yes, they do exist, I'm sad to say..There are also Otherkin Hunters..)
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Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2006 3:09 pm
Aside from the 'energy vampires', 'wannabe vampires', and 'other vampire group not mentioned yet'.
Their are several spirits similar to 'vampires'. One in particular, is more or less a wraith type being. They have no physical form, and are very, very rare, except for very special areas that are almost impossible to be in at the appropriate time to run into them. They manage to make a single cut on the human skin, about the bredth of a finger nail. The cut is very thin, and the person will not feel anything, except for the moister when the blood starts to 'pool'.
The being does not feed on the blood, but rather a 'humor' that is expelled when it is released into the environment. These being can only make one cute during a several minute period, but the effect often draws more to the victim.
These are found is very sepcific areas, and only at night. Unless you know were Irem is, and wander around the general area, you will probly never encounter one.
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Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 11:05 pm
Dorian Requiem Aside from the 'energy vampires', 'wannabe vampires', and 'other vampire group not mentioned yet'. Their are several spirits similar to 'vampires'. One in particular, is more or less a wraith type being. They have no physical form, and are very, very rare, except for very special areas that are almost impossible to be in at the appropriate time to run into them. They manage to make a single cut on the human skin, about the bredth of a finger nail. The cut is very thin, and the person will not feel anything, except for the moister when the blood starts to 'pool'. The being does not feed on the blood, but rather a 'humor' that is expelled when it is released into the environment. These being can only make one cute during a several minute period, but the effect often draws more to the victim. These are found is very sepcific areas, and only at night. Unless you know were Irem is, and wander around the general area, you will probly never encounter one. That's very interesting.. Could I possibly have your permission for me to include that information in my article/thread thing..when I get back to working on it again? I'd give you full credit for that information and such.
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Posted: Sat Aug 12, 2006 9:20 am
i am indeed a proud vampire, both sanguine and psychic. basically, the 'rules' withing the community, though they arent really followed by everyone, are a rule set called the black veil. I'd post them, but i dont follow them and dont care too much about them. i do whatever the hell i want to do, and i'm not a part of any house so that isn't a problem for me.
i drink blood on occasion, but prefer feeding from pranic energy released by all things living, but most notably released from the human body(typically perceived by most as body heat), sexual energy, and combustion energy like that of fire. bear in mind that true vampirism is ******** nothing like in the movies. we arent immortal, we still have reflections, we arent repelled by garic, crosses, etc, dont burst into flame in sunlight(though most of us sunburn rather quickly. it can take me anywheres between 5 and 20 minutes), and we still have souls.
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Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2006 8:28 am
another thing. this doesnt belong in the otherkin section. we are not otherkin.
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Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 10:46 pm
DR490N another thing. this doesnt belong in the otherkin section. we are not otherkin. I've always seen HLVs lumped in with Otherkin.. sweatdrop Though..I can see where you're coming from with that one..hrm..Should I possibly ask for a separate subforum for the topic of HLVs(Human Living Vampires)?
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Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 10:05 am
it would be a good idea yes, but i'm sorry to say, this guitarhero fellow keeps making threads on topics he knows little to null about, and filling them with misinformation, which is very frustrating.
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Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 2:37 pm
DR490N it would be a good idea yes, but i'm sorry to say, this guitarhero fellow keeps making threads on topics he knows little to null about, and filling them with misinformation, which is very frustrating. If it's any consolation at all, the posts that I've started to make on Vampirism comes from much gathering of information. ..Mind you..The information I've gathered may or may not be accurate..but..it's all that I know on the subject. Hrm.. In fact, could you possibly do me a big favor? Since the article/thread "Setting the record straight: Vampirism" is currently incomplete..Would you mind reading over it to see if what I currently have written is alright, before I get around to writing more of it? Since Guitarhero had left it wide open for mention of the "TOV", I have to eventually get around to talking about those guys...Even though I don't really agree with their(the TOV's) beliefs. >.< At this point, I've only got SOME of the stuff on HLVs typed up..and I still need to get around to fixing that up a bit..But yeah. sweatdrop Any constructive criticism is muchly appreciated, nay, it's very strongly encouraged. I want to absolutely make sure that my information on HLVs(both Psionic and Sanguinary) is accurate. ..Annnd..I'll try to ask Guitarhero about getting that new subforum..
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Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 9:29 am
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Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 1:02 am
If any of you know me, you'd know I am big on safety precautions. So because it's somewhat obvious to me but not obviously-stated in this discussion, bloodletting is bad for you. (yay, now the non-fluffy version)
You should always treat contact with blood as if it has a blood-borne disease. It is possible to get HIV through injesting blood from someone infected, as well as sharing razors with those infected. Better not find out the hard way that you are not impervious to disease.
Okay, sorry, I had to get that over with. I just don't much like the idea of injesting someone's blood unless I know they don't have something... kinda like uh.... dating. Yeah, that's PG13.
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Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 8:18 pm
this forum is rather dead....
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