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The femminism that views all men as rapist is very leftist in orgin, they simply take Marx's view on class stuggle and apply it to gender.
saying that is just like me saying stalinism is bad. it's know, but it's expected to be said.
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The last part of your arugement is just rhetoric.
what, its so cloued by flowery words that you actually thought you would have to tell people that? of course it is rhetoric, but it is important to highlight the diference between my own vies and those of my opponents.
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All she's saying is that no matter what your excuse is, rape IS rape.
no, she isnt, she is providing a defenition,hrough examples, of rape. i do not agree with said defintion, thus, i am explaining why.
now, i will go through them, pick out the most pressing ones, and kill them with a rabbit.
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1. You are a rapist if you get a girl drunk and have sex with her.
so drunk people are not allowed to have sex? especially if they want it? this reasoning sujests that no female would want sex given the choice, which is completly bullshit, as most of us here should know.
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2. You are a rapist if you find a drunk girl and have sex with her.
why? not all drunk people are completly incapacitated. by this reasoning, it is rape if she has a cold, which ******** with her head.
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3. You are a rapist if you get yourself drunk and have sex with her. Your drunkenness is no excuse.
thus, this proves what i said in my last post, that is, all sex is rape. YOU getting drunk, is no excuse to have sex!
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4. If you are BOTH drunk you may still be a rapist.
im, sorry, but i will not deal with this one properly, just it's logic. if i screw a drunk chick, its rape, if i am drunk and screw her, its rape, but if we are both drunk, its onle a maybe?
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5. If she's alternating between puking her guts out and passing out in the bed then you're a rapist.
so she wants a ********, but unfortunately, her drunkeness makes her hurl and pass out, thus being unable to enjoy what she wants. so this now means that if one doesnt LIKE sex, it then becomes rape.
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6. If she's sleeping and you have sex with her you're a rapist.
isnt it amasin this child never worries about the issue of consent? i have a friend who lets her boyfriends ******** her when she's asleep. does that make her BFs rapists, when she allows it?
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9. If she is incapacitated in any way and unable to say 'Yes' then you're a rapist.
oh, yes, the big one, VERBAL consent. now if someone cannot communicate verbally that they want to, it means you raped them, never mind if they have got a swolen tongue and accepted your advances, no, that is still rape.
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13. You are a rapist if you 'nag' her for sex. Because you manage to ply an eventual 'yes' from a weary victim doesn't mean it's not rape. You are a rapist.
no, you are a loser and you suck, but you have not raped any one. she could have walked away just as easily.
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14. You are a rapist if you try to circumvent her "No" by talking her into it. She's not playing hard to get, and, even if she IS it's not YOUR responsibility to 'get' her. You're still a rapist.
so if i convince someone that they should ******** me, i have raped them? no, i have just change the way they view things. as above, if i do that i am a loser, but hardly a rapist.
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16. If you threaten her, or act in a way that SHE thinks you're threatening her then you're a rapist. If you puff up and get loud and frustrated while trying to 'talk' her into sex then you're a rapist.
this is on par with those who say that checking out a girls tits ar sexual assault. ti isnt, it is pathetic perving. it all depends on if SHE THINKS something is up, not on the actual relations involved.
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17. You are a rapist if you don't immediately get your hands off of her when she says 'no'. You are a rapist if you take your hands off of her and then put them back ON her after 10 minutes and she eventually 'gives in' to this tactic.
as above with the nagging.
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18. You are a rapist if you won't let her sleep peacefully without waking her every 15 minutes asking her for sex. Sleep depravation is a form of torture and YOU are a rapist.
she can always walk away. it is her choice, sex or another room, or she could kick him out. it isnt rape.
19-25, no-derr!
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26. If you're a friend of hers you can still be a rapist.
doesnt she mean that if you are male you ARE a rapist?
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27. If you had sex with her the night before but she doesn't want morning sex and you pressure her for it anyway then you're a rapist.
as long as you dont hit her or hold her down immobile while it happens, it is not rape.
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29. If it's your wedding night and she doesn't WANT to have sex with you and you force or coerce her anyway then you're a rapist.
as above.
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37. Spending any amount of money on her does not, ever, entitle you to sex.
unless it was legal prostitution, and she accepted the money in return for sex BEFORE the act itself.
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46. If you don't believe a woman when she says she was raped then you're encouraging rape.
what if you're paranoid and dont believe much of what any one says? ok, less far fetched, what if she has a history for crying rape when there has been none?
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50. You cannot tell who is a rapist by the way they look. Rapists are your friends, your brothers, your fathers and you won't know it.
no, actually, it is quiet easy, just look at all men, there you are, all of them rapists, aven the GOOD priests who have remained celebate, away from the little kiddies.
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51. Do not get frustrated with a woman if she doesn't trust you. SHE already knows that rapists don't wear signs on their foreheads. Something you think is innocuous SHE may find terrifying.
and therefore, it is rape, whether or not you actually end up ******** her!
see, this is the kind of s**t that pisses me off. seriously. we have had this wonderful feminist movement, up untill the 60's and 70's which called for womens emancipation. then, we start to get these flips who go and say "WOMEN ARW WEAK! WOMEN MUST BE PROTECTED NIGHT AND DAY LEST TEY ACTUALLY WANT SEX!" allong with those who call rape victims "survivors" their families "co-survivors" and those who havent been raped "potential suvivors".
it is these same people who say that mentaly disabled people should not be allowed to have sex, because they dont know what they are doing, and therefore will be taken advantage of! as if mentaly ill or retarded people do not have sexual interest!