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Xanmatosu

PostPosted: Sun May 28, 2006 9:16 pm


I am considering becoming a christian buddhist i need thoughts and views and most importantly feedback because buddhism isnt about only buddha its technically a philosophy. Am i right? Or wrong?
PostPosted: Sun May 28, 2006 9:37 pm


if you have no comments then i accept to myself that this is morely wrong and maybe i should not even consider it

we are a small, casual guild. we don't get a chance to reply every day. please, be patient. -am

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Senko Shishio

PostPosted: Tue May 30, 2006 6:36 am


Well I'm only just starting to actively learn about buddhism, but I don't think a chirstian buddhist wrong. Buddhism is techinically a philosophy because there is no exact god to "worship" or pray to. I don't know the Christian views on this topic, but I do know it's possible to be of two religions. (I know a Jewish Buddhist actually)
Hope that helps. heart
PostPosted: Tue May 30, 2006 7:00 am


Believe me, Senko, there's more to Buddhism than just the philosophy. There's a whole cosmology that goes with it - especially in the Mahayana and Vajriana (which I've probably spelled wrong, I always do) sects - that'll come into occasional collision with the Abrhamaic faiths.

The only problem with practicing two faiths is this: You're either only going to get surface ideals of both, meaning your practice of either won't be very strong, or eventually you'll wind up being one or the other as your practice of one or the other more deeply. There's parts of both that disagree with the other - the big one being the necessity in Christianity/Judaism of believing in God as the creator/overwatcher of mankind.

It's not morally wrong, it's just a bit on the problematic side occasionally. 3nodding

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PostPosted: Tue May 30, 2006 12:45 pm


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I remember reading that within the last year, the rank of "roshi" (the most esteemed title in Zen Buddhism) was awarded to a devout Catholic Nun. So I presume that there is some way to make the two jive.
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PostPosted: Tue May 30, 2006 1:11 pm


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I remember reading that within the last year, the rank of "roshi" (the most esteemed title in Zen Buddhism) was awarded to a devout Catholic Nun. So I presume that there is some way to make the two jive.
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Sister Elaine?

Mm, though as far as I can tell, she's simply taken the zazen meditation practice and applied it to her everyday life. She did, after all, spend some time in Japan hanging out with nuns when she was a missionary, she has to have picked something up. *grin*

Which works.

Though I don't know anything about her personal beliefs now - I still wonder how she's rectified the creator God issue, and it's worship, with that of Buddhist teachings, or it she's just using the meditative aspect of Zen and not the rest of the faith?

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Travispatra

PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2006 10:53 am


I am a Neo Pagan Buddhist...and since Buddhism is more of a philosophy, it fits into other religions very well. I think if you find your peace and your spiritual needs are met, you can mix Buddhism with whatever religion you wish.
PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2006 4:39 pm


Travispatra
I am a Neo Pagan Buddhist...and since Buddhism is more of a philosophy, it fits into other religions very well. I think if you find your peace and your spiritual needs are met, you can mix Buddhism with whatever religion you wish.
Hmm...it does sound logical. I dont call Buddhism a religion or a philosophy but rather a form of spirituality..its got both..."religion" and "philosophy" in it. However I feel that if I was a Buddhist-Christian...and after coming across Karma and God..it would sound confusing, since I just realized that no deity is predetermining our life. So the law of cause and effect sounds more logical and more realistic to me. Besides..if our lives were predetermined..then life would be no fun blaugh

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Gavriel0

PostPosted: Fri Jun 16, 2006 10:18 am


Strict Vajrayanaist over here....

Zen can be mixed... Going deeper into other traditions with "Christian" beleifs will be very problamatic.
PostPosted: Sat Jun 17, 2006 7:20 am


Byaggha
Sister Elaine?

Mm, though as far as I can tell, she's simply taken the zazen meditation practice and applied it to her everyday life. She did, after all, spend some time in Japan hanging out with nuns when she was a missionary, she has to have picked something up. *grin*

Which works.

Though I don't know anything about her personal beliefs now - I still wonder how she's rectified the creator God issue, and it's worship, with that of Buddhist teachings, or it she's just using the meditative aspect of Zen and not the rest of the faith?

I've wondered about that too. Being from a Catholic background, I can kind of see how it might work. Instead of focusing on the self as Buddhist normally do, the Christians focus their meditations on God. If it's as simple as that, then there's really no surprise that they end up in the same place.

The tricky part would be to apply it to the orthodoxy of the Catholic Church. They don't take the Bible literally, but the "laws" of the Church are still fairly ridged.... making some of the more metaphysical dimensions of Buddhism kind of a no-go.

I suppose that's why Zen works out for them so nicely. They don't have any real sutras to contradict Bible or Pope... leaving the matter of doctrine rather open-ended.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 18, 2006 9:47 pm


Kagerou Osajima
I suppose that's why Zen works out for them so nicely. They don't have any real sutras to contradict Bible or Pope... leaving the matter of doctrine rather open-ended.
Technically, neither does the Pali Canon, there's no mention of the Pope at all...so why aren't there Theravadan/Christian nuns too? xd
PostPosted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 6:52 pm


Byaggha
Believe me, Senko, there's more to Buddhism than just the philosophy. There's a whole cosmology that goes with it - especially in the Mahayana and Vajriana (which I've probably spelled wrong, I always do) sects - that'll come into occasional collision with the Abrhamaic faiths.


Correct me if i am wrong, but In Theravadin texts, it talks about heavens, gods, dieties, etc...is that considered "cosmological"?

Shokai


WayfarerStrife

PostPosted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 10:52 pm


Well, the Buddha-Dharma is a philosophy ... it can easily mix well with any religion, including Christianity. blaugh
PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 6:24 am


I didn't know that was even possible. Don't Buddhism and Christianity directly contradict each other?

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Tom Gunn 666

PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 7:27 pm


you can be Christian Buddhist?
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