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 Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2005 1:38 pm
I posted this in the extended disscusion fourm a while back, i thought i might put it here to see what people think of it.
OK i think that every thing must have a purpose, or else it wouldn't have been made. And every thing was created. So if every thing has a purpose every thing it does goes to serve that purpose. So in creating something, you created it to serve your purpose. Then it hits kind of a fork in the road, If you think that one single thing like god or whatever created us all, then every thing in exsistence serves his purpose. And if some one didn't, than everything wouldn't be serving any purpose. So end the end we are all serving a purpose that exsists, hasnt formed yet, or doesnt exist. By that logic we are all equal since we are all serving the same purpose.
When i finished thinking about this in class, i started laughing out loud out of the blue. This isnt that uncommon since i do it all the time, but the thought of me and my pencil being equal is hysterical to me
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Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2005 3:57 pm
I don't believe in God, at least one like this. sad
Questions like this only make me wonder why God wouldn't just instantly create whatever his purpose is meant to be. This seems like an odd and round about way to an end.
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Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2005 7:10 am
I think that God created us to keep Him company. As far as to do one specific purpose many things have multiple purposes and they're just objects. We're humans, we can do more than just one thing. We should do as much as we can, perhaps alongside keeping God company we were created to help others who need our help or do something really great that will inspire people for many years later.
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Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2005 11:40 am
I tend to be one who views all things as 'equal' anyway. All things have an inherent value and deserve to be honored. Yes, even your pencil. Think about the tree that had to be sacrificed to make that pencil? The land that had to be destroyed to gather the lead for it? A lot of death went into making that little pencil you hold in your hand.
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Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2005 11:02 pm
I haven't completely decided wether or not I believe in God or a god. I'm not too sure I can quite think of myself being equal to this keyboard I am currently typing on. I'm positive that I don't believe that God created us to keep him company, that just doesn't seem possible to me. I need proof.
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Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2005 2:34 pm
ron-and-mee I haven't completely decided wether or not I believe in God or a god. I'm not too sure I can quite think of myself being equal to this keyboard I am currently typing on. I'm positive that I don't believe that God created us to keep him company, that just doesn't seem possible to me. I need proof. Study a wide variety of religions, philosophies, and belief systems. Eventually you'll find something that clicks with you. In the US especially, we're all pretty much brainwashed by Judeo-Christian ways of thinking. It'd be good to look at some of the Eastern philosophies or forms of Paganism to get an alternate perspective on religions that are very different from the Judeo-Christian way of seeing things. You don't have to think of the keyboard as being equal to you if you don't want to. 3nodding
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Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2005 7:50 pm
Sheramaile I don't believe in God, at least one like this. sad Questions like this only make me wonder why God wouldn't just instantly create whatever his purpose is meant to be. This seems like an odd and round about way to an end. I am using your post as an excuse to qoute terry pratchett, whom I idolize. "God does not play dice with the universe; He plays an ineffable game of His own devising, which might be compared, from the perspective of any of the other players [i.e. everybody], to being involved in an obscure and complex variant of poker in a pitch-dark room, with blank cards, for infinite stakes, with a Dealer who won't tell you the rules, and who smiles all the time."
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Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2005 11:20 am
wolf-larsen Sheramaile I don't believe in God, at least one like this. sad Questions like this only make me wonder why God wouldn't just instantly create whatever his purpose is meant to be. This seems like an odd and round about way to an end. I am using your post as an excuse to qoute terry pratchett, whom I idolize. "God does not play dice with the universe; He plays an ineffable game of His own devising, which might be compared, from the perspective of any of the other players [i.e. everybody], to being involved in an obscure and complex variant of poker in a pitch-dark room, with blank cards, for infinite stakes, with a Dealer who won't tell you the rules, and who smiles all the time." Oh lord, after reading that quote i felt some how violated, as if god is some pervert messing with our heads geting some sick plesure out of it eek
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Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2005 3:57 pm
I change my mind. Its not poker. Its just a very complicated game of solitare. Once again terry pratchett
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Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2005 4:43 pm
Wolf-larsen: Solitaire is complicated enough....
Anywho, I think that everything in the universe will eventually have a purpose when it can "evolve" enough (or someone/thing else that is that evolved) to figure out what it is. And as it changes, inevitably, somone will find a purpose for it.
Ex- When the seed for a tree sprouted, did it know that it;s life-long purpose was to be a newspaper? No, probably not. But could that change the fact that it would grow and become a newspaper? Also no. And when that seed changed into a tree, did omeone find a use, a purpose for it? Yes.
As described in my religion, god as change: An inexorable, infinite, unstoppable force. (sidenote- And is that not the definition of any god?) So if god is change, and change made that tiny seed into a tree, would that not have made it fufill it's purpose?
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Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 4:56 pm
Why do things have to've been made?
Why can't they just have always been in some form or other?
(Damn those sentances seem grammaticly horrible.)
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Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 9:38 am
Maze1125 Why do things have to've been made? Why can't they just have always been in some form or other? (Damn those sentances seem grammaticly horrible.) Well, they're here, so they had to habe been made. blaugh "Made" doesn't have to imply some almighty power took his/her hands and physically put the pieces together. It can be a spontaneous natural process of changing forms. Even a change in form is a change in make, right?
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Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 8:59 pm
Starlock ron-and-mee I haven't completely decided wether or not I believe in God or a god. I'm not too sure I can quite think of myself being equal to this keyboard I am currently typing on. I'm positive that I don't believe that God created us to keep him company, that just doesn't seem possible to me. I need proof. Study a wide variety of religions, philosophies, and belief systems. Eventually you'll find something that clicks with you. In the US especially, we're all pretty much brainwashed by Judeo-Christian ways of thinking. It'd be good to look at some of the Eastern philosophies or forms of Paganism to get an alternate perspective on religions that are very different from the Judeo-Christian way of seeing things. You don't have to think of the keyboard as being equal to you if you don't want to. 3nodding Actually I have been studying a variety of religeons for the majority of my life. There were a few years when I though for sure that Christianity was the ultimate way to go, but really I don't think it is any more. I learned a lot through the Unitarian Universalist Fellowship and am thinking of returning when i go to college next fall. I don't think of myself being equal to my keyboard - and it will never happen.
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Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 9:05 pm
Starlock Maze1125 Why do things have to've been made? Why can't they just have always been in some form or other? (Damn those sentances seem grammaticly horrible.) Well, they're here, so they had to habe been made. blaugh "Made" doesn't have to imply some almighty power took his/her hands and physically put the pieces together. It can be a spontaneous natural process of changing forms. Even a change in form is a change in make, right? Everything there is had to come from someplace - it may have just been there in the beginning but as time has passed we and everything else has been made thus far. Does this make any sense?
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Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 6:07 am
Ok so if that thing had been there the whole time it must have made us right?
And when things make things, they make it for a purpose, their purpose. So if it or w/e made everything to serve its purpose we all must be equal since we are all serving the same purpose.
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