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Ally Os

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PostPosted: Fri May 12, 2006 6:42 pm


Here is a place to discuss Myths and Legends. You can post them, ask questions about them, discuss them, etc. Pretty much anythign as logn as it deals with Myths and Legends and is PG-13 appropriate. Which ones do you believe in? Which ones do you believe are absolutely absurd? Know for a fact which ones are false? Know for a fact which ones are true?
PostPosted: Mon May 15, 2006 2:47 pm


There is a myth here on this island that has two sides to it. One is most likely an urban legend modified to fit the local climate, the other could be a plausible occurance, but whatever the case they still stand as myth/legend.

What I speak of is the story of Morgan's Corner. Its a well known place, supposedly(I've never quite figured out where it is, though). The urban legend sounding story about Morgan's Corner, least the one I heard, deals with how a boyfriend and girlfriend were driving along, when their car breaks down. The boyfriend goes out to try to see whats wrong, but never comes back. A few hours later the girlfriend starts hearing scratching noises on the roof of the car and call the police. When the Police get there they escort the girlfriend from the car and tell her not to look back, which she does. The scratching was from her boyfriend's nails, for he was hanging from a tree over the car.

The other myth, so to speak, I read from a compilation book, of contemporary Hawaiian ghost stories. I dont quite remember all of the details, but it seems as though that story was based on fact. It told of how the Morgans were well know haolis(literally foriegners, but the slang refers to those of Caucasian decent). They were doctors I believe, erm well anyway, the story goes that they were brutally murdered one night ,by persons unknown, and their screams can sometimes be heard on dark moonlit nights.

There was another occurance that happened near there, its supposedly a spot on the freeway that was known being a common place for accidents. The story about it was that on a dark cloudy night, back perhaps just post WWII? Im not too sure. A local man was driving along the freeway, near the infamous Morgan's Corner, when he spots a man walking along the side of the road. He could tell the man was a sailor, by his uniform, so the local man drove up along side the sailor and asked if he wanted a ride. The sailor simply turned his head to the man, but the sailors face was but his bare skull. The local man panicked and hit the gass. When he woke up the next morning in the care of paramedics, after he had crashed his car the night before, he asked them about the sailor, but they didnt know anything about it.


If any local people have issues with the way I went tell these, tell me and I'll change em.

[--Caius Inferi--]


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PostPosted: Mon May 15, 2006 3:44 pm


the first one sounds familiar, but i dont know from where.
and the second, creepy! eek
PostPosted: Mon May 15, 2006 11:56 pm


Ally_Os
Here is a place to discuss Myths and Legends. You can post them, ask questions about them, discuss them, etc. Pretty much anythign as logn as it deals with Myths and Legends and is PG-13 appropriate.

So talking about Christian Mythology in great detail would be a no, then, too I suppose, wouldn't it? I dunno, eating flesh and drinking blood seems pretty R rated to me.

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PostPosted: Fri May 19, 2006 12:27 pm


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PostPosted: Thu May 25, 2006 8:46 pm


[--Casus Inferi--]

There was another occurance that happened near there, its supposedly a spot on the freeway that was known being a common place for accidents. The story about it was that on a dark cloudy night, back perhaps just post WWII? Im not too sure. A local man was driving along the freeway, near the infamous Morgan's Corner, when he spots a man walking along the side of the road. He could tell the man was a sailor, by his uniform, so the local man drove up along side the sailor and asked if he wanted a ride. The sailor simply turned his head to the man, but the sailors face was but his bare skull. The local man panicked and hit the gass. When he woke up the next morning in the care of paramedics, after he had crashed his car the night before, he asked them about the sailor, but they didnt know anything about it.


If any local people have issues with the way I went tell these, tell me and I'll change em.


Eek - that is so freaky just trying to picture that in my mind.
Very interesting legends - and I bet Hawaii has a ton more.

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PostPosted: Thu May 25, 2006 8:55 pm


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Eek - that is so freaky just trying to picture that in my mind.
Very interesting legends - and I bet Hawaii has a ton more.

Indeed Hawaii does have more, we're simply awash in supernatural happenings and legends, some explain it as the result of the unique cultural mix and blend we have here. I could post more later, if you'd like. (I'd do it now, but I needs me resources or I'm bound to screw up the legend >.<)
PostPosted: Thu May 25, 2006 9:03 pm


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[Spooks]

Eek - that is so freaky just trying to picture that in my mind.
Very interesting legends - and I bet Hawaii has a ton more.

Indeed Hawaii does have more, we're simply awash in supernatural happenings and legends, some explain it as the result of the unique cultural mix and blend we have here. I could post more later, if you'd like. (I'd do it now, but I needs me resources or I'm bound to screw up the legend >.<)


Well, I have found that in a lot of cases, most legends have many, many versions. XD

I'd love to read more Hawaii legends! ^^

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 12, 2006 11:59 am


this is kind of an urban legened but suposedly a midget hung her self in the shooting of wizard of oz
( i saw the video creeped me out)
PostPosted: Sun Aug 13, 2006 6:00 am


@ it_landry: If i remember my facts right Spring Heel Jack was drawn from the idea of Jack the Ripper.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spring_Heeled_Jack

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 4:57 am


How about another random Hawaii Myth/Urban Legend?

Pork Over The (Old)Pali(Highway).


Location:
-Island of Oahu.
-Old Pali Highway.

The Urban Legend goes something like:
Supposedly, if you drive over the Pali Highway at any time of day, with pork in your vehicle, and head from Honolulu to the other side of the island...it will stall or you will crash before crossing over to the other side of the island. Many a person, local and foriegn, have claimed to have experience this phenomina. Enough so that it was widely believed to be true and people would not dare to take pork with them while traversing the Pali if they knew of the lore.

The Myth behind this:
Is that ancient Native Hawaiian lore has it that the Fire Goddess Pele had control of half of the island and that a rival goddess the other. They were not exactly on good terms and the way to signal that the hostilities were over was that Pele would send pork over the ridge from Honolulu.

Thus explaining why no one ever made it to the other side of the island if they had pork in their possesion. To be put blatently the belief is that the goddess Pele would stop the carriers of the pork before they could get to the other side of the island and signal that everything was well between the two rival goddesses.

Other info:
About 5-10 years ago a section of the Old Pali Highway collapsed. The state didnt try to repair it, but instead built a new path and converted what was left of the Old Pali Highway into a tourist attraction, the Pali Lookout. The small section that collapsed was said to have collapsed from rain damage or something to that extent.

I personally dont know if this still holds true with the new Pali Highway. I have not and do not plan on testing it.
PostPosted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 10:15 am


Okays everyone!

The first legend mentioned, by Caius, that is the HOOK MAN LEGEND.

I just use caps for emphasis, not yelling. I'm too lazy to use tags.

Anyways, yeah, that's usually pretty accurate, but has nothing to do with any one corner.

In all places, it's pretty much universal. See, in almost every place there is some 'lover's forest' or place that couples go to make out or whatever all else. Usually there are trees. Well, the Hook Man [in some cases a dead preacher, other times i don't remember, maybe a father..] scratches the side of the car or something, and the boy gets out to go check it out and prove he's not afraid. He ends up dissapeared, and the girl freaks, she does hear the scratching, screams a lot, and probably gets out and realizes its her b/f hung upside down over the car. Then she either dies, too, or escapes. Depends on who you hear it from.


But, I would say it's also an Episode on that TV Show Supernatural, and there is research done for it, [on google, sadly] but they pick a legend and then try and incorporate as many variations into one as they can.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 9:33 am


A bit of folklore from the rural southern U.S.

I've heard this from various folk, but all versions follow essentially the same template:

Uncle so-and-so was a mean drunk who liked to torment the family cat while on his binges. This generally involves repeatedly throwing the cat at the wall and watching he/she rebound, ad infinitum. Well, one day, the cat has finally had enough and tells the man "Touch me again and I'll scratch your eyes out/face off" or somesuch. Wind up is, the uncle stops drinking, and thereafter refuses to be alone with a cat.

Stories abound of less dramatic happenings, such as cats asking be let in/out, asking for water, etc.

Strangely enough, cats do have limited speech capabilities. So perhaps these stories aren't quite as far-fetched as they sound.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iV6DQuEh4UQ
PostPosted: Sat Mar 17, 2007 7:00 am


it_landry
Who was the frightening figure - a man known only as Spring Heeled Jack - who terrorised the people of London for decades in the 19th century?
The lonely lanes and commons of 19th Century suburban London were haunted by the weird and terrifying figure of Spring Heeled Jack, who pounced upon passers-by, sometimes wounding them severely, and bounded away in enormous leaps.
Today the antics of Spring Heeled Jack are almost forgotten, or dismissed as a figment of the imagination - a mere character of Victorian horror literature, or a bogeyman used by mothers to warn errant children: �Be good, or Spring Heeled Jack will get you!� Some writers believe that Jack is a figure of popular folklore.
Kellow Chesney in his book The Victorian Underworld says that Jack is �pure legend� - perhaps the invention of servants reluctant to admit negligence when thieves robbed their master�s home. But Jack was not a character in fiction, folklore or legend. He was real, and his appearances were widely reported in the local and national press. Nobody seems certain when Jack first appeared. Many sources say that reports of a peculiar leaping man were in circulation as early as 1817, but it was not until 1838 that Spring Heeled Jack became a figure of considerable and widespread interest and speculation.
On 9th January 1838 the Lord Mayor of London, Alderman Sir John Cowan, revealed, at a public session held in the Mansion House, the contents of a letter he had received several days earlier. He had withheld it, he said, in the hope of obtaining further information. The correspondent, who signed the letter �a resident of Peckham�, wrote that, as the result of a wager, a person of the highest rank had adopted several frightening guises and set out to scare 30 people to death. He had �already succeeded in depriving seven ladies of their senses�, two of whom �were not likely to recover, but likely to become burdens to their families.� The resident of Peckham continued:
The affair has now been going on for some time, and, strange to say, the papers are still silent on the subject. The writer has reason to believe that they have the whole history at their finger-ends but, through interested motives, are induced to remain silent.
We do not know why the Lord Mayor made the contents of the letter public, nor can we judge the truth of the letter�s allegation of a press �cover-up�, but from the quantity of letters that poured into the Mansion House it is clear that the activities of Spring Heeled Jack were common knowledge in suburban London.
Spring Heeled Jack had appeared as a milk-white bull, a white bear, and an enormous baboon; he had been seen dressed in a suit of shining brass armour, and on one occasion in one of burnished steel; once, in Hackney, he appeared as a lamplighter - who walked upon his hands and carried his ladder between his feet. His ability to make prodigious leaps was popularly ascribed to springs attached to his boots.
On Wednesday, 18th February 1838, 18-year-old Lucy Scales and her sister Margaret were returning home after visiting their brother, a butcher who lived in a respectable part of the district of Limehouse. Lucy slightly ahead of her sister, was passing the entrance to Green Dragon Alley when a figure leapt upon her from the shadows. The figure breathed fire into Lucy�s face and then bounded away as the girl fell to the ground, seized by violent fits.
Two days later, 18-year-old Jane Alsop replied to a violent ringing of the bell at the front gate of her parents� home in east London. Outside was an extremely agitated man who identified himself as a policeman. �For God�s sake bring me a light,� he cried, �for we have caught Spring Heeled Jack in the lane!�
Jane fetched a candle, but when she handed it to the �policeman�, the man discarded his all-enveloping cloak. On his head was a large helmet, he wore a skin-tight suit of what looked like white oilskin, and in the light of the candle his protuberant eyes burned like coals. Without uttering a word, he vomited blue and white flames into Jane�s face and grabbed the temporarily blinded and very frightened girl with talon-like fingers, which tore her dress and raked her skin. Attracted by her screams, Jane�s sisters, Mary and Sarah, came to the girl�s assistance. Somehow Sarah pulled Jane out of the fiend�s grasp, thrust her inside and slammed the door in Jack�s face.
A week later Jack tried the same deception but for some reason his intended victim was suspicious and Jack was forced to flee. A witness claimed that under his cloak Jack had been wearing an ornate crest and, in gold filigree, the letter �W�.
After these attacks Jack�s infamy grew. His exploits were reported in many newspapers and became the subject of at least no less than 4 �penny-dreadfuls� and melodrama�s performed in the cheap theatres that abounded at the time. But, perhaps as a result of the publicity, Jack�s appearances became less frequent and appeared over a large area. I was not until 1843 that terror of Spring Heeled Jack again swept the country. Then he appeared in Northamptonshire, in Hampshire - where he was described as �the very image of the Devil himself, with horns and eyes of flame� - and in East Anglia, where he took particular delight in frightening the drivers of mail coaches.
In 1845 reports came from Ealing and Hanwell, in west London, of a weird figure, leaping over hedges and walls and shrieking and groaning as it went. The perpetrator turned out to be a practical joker, a butcher from Brentford.
Later that year Jack was seen at Jacob�s Island, Bermondsey, a disease-ridden slum of decaying houses linked by wooden galleries across stinking ditches. This area had been immortalised by Charles Dickens seven years earlier as the lair of Fagin and his motley band in Oliver Twist. Jack cornered a 13-year-old prostitute named Maria Davis on a bridge over Folly Ditch. He breathed fire into her face and hurled her into the stinking, muddy ditch below. The girl screamed terribly as the muddy waters claimed her. Witnesses reported the affair to the police, who dragged the ditch and recovered the poor girl�s body. The verdict at the subsequent inquest was one of death by misadventure, but the inhabitants of the area branded Jack as a murderer.
There were isolated reports of Spring Heeled Jack over the next 27 Years, non of them well-attested. Then, in November 1872, the News Of The World reported that London was �in a state of commotion owing to what is known as the Peckham Ghost... a mysterious figure, quite alarming in appearance� as Spring Heeled Jack, �who terrified a past generation.�
In 1877 Jack gave a virtuoso performance at Aldershot Barracks. The terror began one night in early March. A sentry on duty at the North Camp peered into the darkness, his attention attracted by a peculiar figure bounding across the common towards him. The soldier issued a challenge, which went unheeded or unheard, and the figure disappeared from sight for a few moments. Then it was beside the guard and delivered several slaps to the face with a hand as cold and clammy as that of a corpse.
There were several more attacks on guards at Aldershot. Once a soldier shot at Jack; afterwards a rumour that Jack was invulnerable to bullet-fire spread like wildfire. In fact the soldier had fired blanks at him.
Various theories were advanced at the time, but no real clues ever emerged. The identity of the miscreant and the purpose of his attacks remains unknown.


I love this myth, something about it seems so enthralling and tragic.
A mate of mine saw something similiar in central England in the countryside but I doubt it has anything to do with the actual Jack.

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