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Mama Ame

Shy Conversationalist

PostPosted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 1:06 pm


So I was in the Abortion Debate room, where 90% of the inhabitants are pro-choice. It is a debate right, so I have the right to say what I want, correct?
Wrong! I stated I was pro-life 100% immediantely I was bombarded with the "what-about-rape-and-the-dangers" stuff.
So then, I said if you are raped thats sad, but you could adopt.
Then someone else said, "Childbirth is dangerous!" So then I said "Abortion is MORE dangerous". Heck, I even found a site!
But yet they act like I'm some horrible person for wanting to SAVE the "mass of tissues"
Then I also asked "When does this mass suddenly become a baby? Does it MAGICALLY turn human at birth?"
Of course, to them I'm evil. Has anyone else had this problem?
PostPosted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 1:36 pm


We've ALL had that problen.

But, to answer your question. They're irrisponcible and ignorant willfuly. Thats all i can see in it all.

Tiger of the Fire


lymelady
Vice Captain

PostPosted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 1:53 pm


What Pyro said. The reason it's so heavily pro-choice is because a lot of people in here that I know of have just grown sick of the ED debate. After people spend hours trying to argue over anything with you to the point of telling you an orange is a vegetable when you make a simple analogy (I wish I was joking, she actually said, "an orange is a vegetable.") it gets kinda like, life is too short.

They like mudslinging, emotional response bringing assaults. Not all of them, but a lot of them. Some of them are really very nice, but then some of them will say they can use whatever sources they want but your sources aren't good enough since they're biased (because as we all know, Planned Parenthood isn't biased one bit over the abortion debate!) They've even thrown out things from medical texts because it didn't agree with their own views. It's stupid. Though most of them are over the age of 20, it reminds me of being back on the bus in middle school with kids arguing about their favorite bands being the best. "I'm right and you're wrong because I say so!" Actually, I'd put that below middle school.

Anyway...the truth is, most of them don't want to listen. They've already closed themselves off, and let's face it, a lot of us don't want to listen either. The difference is one side is definitely more civil in there. It doesn't help that the thread is run by someone who is pro-choice and though she graciously offered to inculde our imput hasn't done so yet for a LOT of things.
PostPosted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 2:00 pm


It just kind of annoys me.
I mean, I hate no one. I think I'm a nice person. I just want respect too.
I even said I didn't hate any of them. I don't. But then they automatically assume I'm pro-choice now.
Oh well. I know I'm not.
I have to go though. Thanks everyone. I'm glad I'm not the only one with this problem

Mama Ame

Shy Conversationalist


Tiger of the Fire

PostPosted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 2:34 pm


Yes, she says she's very bussy, but the info we gave her almost completly counters all the arguments she's built, so I think its more then her being bussy. Plus, her attitude towards lifers when our backs are turned or she thinks we're not listening is sickining. SO, that just adds another level of suspicion.

Yeah, they automaticly think your pro-choice. Most of them have th emind set that any one even remotely pro-life is a mudslinign biggot who wants to strip all rights form woman. That reminds me of some of the choicers I'm told of who don't beleive there is any such thing as a pro-life female. Ask Lyme on this one, she can tell you some pretty scary and funny and scarryfunny stories abotu some of those types. They say any woman who is active in prolife was either guilted into it (I still don't see how you can guilt some one into saying its wrong. Either they all ready knwo its wrong or they have a mental barrier set up around their on concious...or lack a concious entirly), is brain washed, or is a male with a female avi (here on gaia). I must argue over whos brainwashing who. Since it is natural to assume the unborn is human and a child, scociaty has to ingrain the beleife that the unborn is not.

As for their attitude, I can sum that up quickly.
joe/jenny choicer
Now that I'm safe, I'm pro-choice!
PostPosted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 3:28 pm


I'm so brainwashed. I'm so freaking submissive. Everyone who's anyone can control me, I'm like a machine and all you do is push a button and there goes my free will/intelligence. some big bad prolife male came along and said, "OMG BABY KILLER!" and pushed a button and I was all, "OMG UR SO RIGHT LOLZ!" and that's how I became prolife. Before that I was liberated! Now I'm enslaved by those darn males who have outsmarted me merely because I am female.

lymelady
Vice Captain


]Kaiser[

PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 12:34 am


I'm the one to debate the most, and I've shown considerable intestinal fortitude by letting them step over me, call names, emotionally attack, mudsling, etc. Really, I just quit debating all together after a while, while they make biased and stereotypical judgements and characteristics towards pro-lifers.

Yes, I hate women, I hate how they have the control of their body when they have a baby, I hate pre-marital sex, I WANT ALL WOMEN TO BE BAREFOOT, NAKED, COOKING MY MEALS, CLEANING MY HOUSE, AND USED A SEX DOOL WHENEVER I PLEASE....

Yeah, these are the people talking about not being ignorant rolleyes . I'm done, seriously.
PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 6:23 am


Master Kaiser
I'm the one to debate the most, and I've shown considerable intestinal fortitude by letting them step over me, call names, emotionally attack, mudsling, etc. Really, I just quit debating all together after a while, while they make biased and stereotypical judgements and characteristics towards pro-lifers.

Yes, I hate women, I hate how they have the control of their body when they have a baby, I hate pre-marital sex, I WANT ALL WOMEN TO BE BAREFOOT, NAKED, COOKING MY MEALS, CLEANING MY HOUSE, AND USED A SEX DOOL WHENEVER I PLEASE....

Yeah, these are the people talking about not being ignorant rolleyes . I'm done, seriously.
Hmm... Forcing all women to be naked... ninja

I mean, but that would make it too easy to be tempted by them! They should be covered, head to toe! And hidden away! Kitchens should be below ground, and they should be locked in! For their own safety of course. The safety of their sssouuulllls!

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lymelady
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 6:42 am


I.Am
Master Kaiser
I'm the one to debate the most, and I've shown considerable intestinal fortitude by letting them step over me, call names, emotionally attack, mudsling, etc. Really, I just quit debating all together after a while, while they make biased and stereotypical judgements and characteristics towards pro-lifers.

Yes, I hate women, I hate how they have the control of their body when they have a baby, I hate pre-marital sex, I WANT ALL WOMEN TO BE BAREFOOT, NAKED, COOKING MY MEALS, CLEANING MY HOUSE, AND USED A SEX DOOL WHENEVER I PLEASE....

Yeah, these are the people talking about not being ignorant rolleyes . I'm done, seriously.
Hmm... Forcing all women to be naked... ninja

I mean, but that would make it too easy to be tempted by them! They should be covered, head to toe! And hidden away! Kitchens should be below ground, and they should be locked in! For their own safety of course. The safety of their sssouuulllls!
I agree! I think I should have to be naked AND completely covered...naked whenever my master goes, "Woman, take your clothes off!" For he is my master and I must obey him! I'm a woman after all! I must be locked up underground, and if it catches fire and I burn to death because I'm unable to get out, I shall do so with a smile on my face knowing that my master is safe and he's got ten other concubines waiting to comfort him when he realizes his redheaded one is burned to a crisp!
PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 6:52 am


Good thinks master- that redheaded one was to opinionated!

Broorel


Prince of Lies

PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 8:23 am


*laughs* I love it all...

Yes... I have the same problem.. and then when they all find out that I have given up college and I willingly CHOOSE to stay at home in the kitchen (And yes barefoot...is there any other way to be?) Watch my little boy grow up and I am HAPPY about it... well then I have a holy war on my hands.. I am the epitomy of anti Feminazi movements and I have no respect for myself and I am letting the dirty males trample all over me.... Blah blah blah

heart to me I would have no respect for myself if I handed my child over to be killed or if I handed them over as soon as they were old enough to some school or another and let someone else raise the kid... *shrugs*

I think the people that flame or mudsling us Just dont want to listen to the facts that are.. well Facts. they want their little half truths and blatent lies.. if it makes you feel good why not do it right?
I say if your not responcible enough to deal with the conciquences don't do it to begin with...
PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 8:27 am


It's true. But they're all of the camp that having sex involves no inhearant responsibility. rolleyes

Broorel


Prince of Lies

PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 8:46 am


*nods* Or my favorite...
Pro-Choicer
I had an abortion because I knew I couldn't handle the kid right then
...Err... Yeah.... So to negate the irrisponcible non-Safe-sex you had you'll kill an innocent...
Pro-Choicer
It's not an innocent.. it's a paracite.. a leech....
*sigh*
PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 9:14 am


carry_on_the_tradition
*nods* Or my favorite...
Pro-Choicer
I had an abortion because I knew I couldn't handle the kid right then
...Err... Yeah.... So to negate the irrisponcible non-Safe-sex you had you'll kill an innocent...
Pro-Choicer
It's not an innocent.. it's a paracite.. a leech....
*sigh*



OMG!!!! thats so wrong. I know people who had babies at 12 and 13, and they never had an abortion. they didnt even give it up for adoption and they done just fine. Abortion to me, is wrong, except in certain circumstances. But thats my opinion.

SoldierGirl87


divineseraph

PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 5:30 pm


a leech? and she is not a leech? off of some system or another? to her parents should she live at home. to the earth for living on it and taking up it's resources. she is merely a leech given a voice.
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