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Lawrence was in a daydreamy sort of haze as he listened to Melvin talk, but it was as if he perked up at the implication of his last comment. There was nothing to stop anything down here, certainly, and he'd considered a few times in regards to himself. Ultimately he was more afraid of the ocean than anything else, threatening things from Atlantis didn't matter to him all that much.

He gave Melvin a look, tilting his head and smiling faintly.

"Would you do it?" he asked. "If they said it was the only way?" And it was evident Melvin had his interest now fully. "No one would ever really know."

Probably was better than no.

“Sometimes its just so easy for thoughts to become actions. Just a moment and you are there.” He shrugged. “There have been a lot of times where I’ve asked myself why not and there has just never been any compelling counter argument to be found.”

He took a shallow breath. “And honestly I cannot think of anything so blussful, so satisfying, so orgasmic as feeling something die and knowing you were the cause. Have you never experienced it? In the moment you are invincible, you are a god.”

“Don’t get yourself killed though, that would be very negative. Deus catches you with their cameras and who knows what else. When they are not around.. well. When the cats are away the mice will play.”

Lawrence remembered that Melvin and the creature he’d tamed through the eyes of a version of him who was in many ways softer and even more passive than him here and now. He’d been happy to exist in the wake of Melvin’s greatness and to be used however he pleased. He remembered the devastation as a bystander who was aware of the possibility one day it would be him. He had a ditto and was capable of doubling their impact whenever Melvin wished it to be so.

“It’s not the same because you don’t get to feel it.” He said. “You don’t get to feel the light go out, to almost hold it in your hands. Its sweet but being there is so much sweeter.”

He closed his eyes and exhaled. “It’s all forbidden now. I choose to live and to love and not to kill but I remember. I remember that power and there is nothing even close. Its like giving them immortality, they are frozen forever exactly as they were. It was why I was going to kill Horace, I could feel him drifting away from me and I wanted him forever trapped in the throes of agony bound up with love because is there anything sweeter?”

He leaned against Melvin. “I saw the seed of something in you and to see it bloom has been one of the greatest honours of my life.

Even remembering the things he'd done got Lawrence a bit worked up, mentally exploring and basking in those moments when he'd held life in his hands, casting a wide net to the various lifes he had lived in other worlds and pulling them in close. He had relived them a thousand times but he would continue to do so, even as he lived a life that was good and swore never to let it happen again.

"Fools are not to be tolerated. When you are stronger than those around you, you have the right to act as you will. The only lesson is never to be caught, to be too wily for them. If that anger is not what you need at the time then put it away and shackle it, call it out when you need it. A lack of control is a weakness but a concious choice to dominate and rule is your own."

He shrugged. "Make them afraid but do not let Deus get their claws into you if you can avoid it, you are respected, you have reputation, that is more valuable than simple brute strength."

He smirked. "I would have done it without hesitation. I would have killed them and I would have done it over and over again until it was a fine art, until I knew them all inside and out, until I'd stripped them down to their composite parts and touched places on them even light had never even witnessed."

Exhaling in a hiss he asked. "What you would do to them?"

"Then you should work on control as best you can, find a method, medication, whatever you want to do it. I have confidence you could learn it all no problem. You are very bright indeed and you always know when you need to fix something that it takes asking yourself a few questions."

He smiled again, a little flushed at the discussion of just twisting an arm till it broke. "It's good that you didn't but oh I would have loved to see it."

Melvins ideas of what he would have liked to do on the island were facinating and he listened with the most rapt attention. "All of those things would have been an experience. Technically you had meat on the island other than fish you know. I would never have endured being deprived of a bit of red meat. Impermanence in that way would have been enjoyable."

"The lines are ultimately up to you Melvin, whatever makes you happy. For me it was just too addictive, it was just too perfect to stop. I would have liked to have found someone with you once, just the two of us and them, a little anatomy lesson."

"Of course. I'm here now aren't I?" he said matter-of-factly.

"I DID think something happened to you."

"Yes. Why wouldn't I be? I'm certainly not going anywhere any time soon, I'm here for ever and you are one of my very very few friends. I could count my friends on the digits I have left. Yes I would be there. You say it like I'd leave if you killed someone, if you did something horrible. You didn't leave me so why would I ever do it to you."

He gave Melvin a reassuring smile. "You hardly need to ask."