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PostPosted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 6:15 pm


Edit for 10/14/15: Finished Labeling All the Nerf-Mechanics Tier Levels



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Well anyways this thread will be used for us to have Official Meetings where we will discuss various super important topics regarding the Main Guild RP(s) (currently only the TSSA). That being said the first meeting shall begin now.


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Meeting #1: Fleshing Out What Is/Isn't Godmodding & the Nerf-Mechanics of the RP

1) Well the Godmodding One I don't think needs much of an explanation. We'll be defining what is/isn't Godmodding.
2) Nerf-Mechanics: As you probably are aware each Sub-Multiverse we will be going to has different rules of reality (different superhuman/supernatural abilities that exist and different amounts of power their most powerful characters have). The Nerf-Mechanics of the RP will be a guideline of various groups of power that various Sub-Multiverses have their most powerful beings characters reach. We'll set-up a class system for that and determine what franchises Sub-Multiverses would fall into each class. Included in the groups from the start will be the Sub-Multiverses each character calls their home Sub-Multiverse if they have a home Sub-Multiverse that is to say. Also we'll include the current Sub-Multiverse being occupied and to flesh things out nicely we can also include various other Sub-Multiverses we are familiar with regardless of whether or not they are the Sub-Multiverse of an anime, video game, book/movie series, TV series, etc. I'll compile the list of categories here in this post as we go along and I'll even start it off with some categories I've come up with. I'll start with the most powerful categories at the top and go down to lowest categories. Any character that exceeds a Sub-Multiverse's Nerf-Mechanics Guideline category will automatically be nerfed to a level of power and abilities that would fit into that category for the duration of their time in that Sub-Multiverse.

Nerf-Mechanics Tiers

High Tier God Level: (This Category would be occupied by actual characters, but they'd always be NPC Characters or hafta be
High Tier God Level: non-combat characters because using such a character in a combat scenario would be using a character
High Tier God Level: that is almost always Godmodding. RPing as such a character would at the very least require my
High Tier God Level: permission if not a 2/3s majority vote of all RPers to get permission.)

Sub-Multiverse Extinction Level: (This Category would be occupied by actual characters, but they'd always be NPC
Sub-Multiverse Extinction Level: Characters or hafta be non-combat characters because using such a character in a combat
Sub-Multiverse Extinction Level: scenario would be using a character that is almost always Godmodding. RPing as such a
Sub-Multiverse Extinction Level: character would at the very least require my permission if not a 2/3s majority vote of all
Sub-Multiverse Extinction Level: RPers to get permission.)

Universal Extinction Level: The Dragon Ball Sub-Multiverse (if u have watched Dragon Ball Super will know this to be a fact),
Universal Extinction Level: The Bleach Sub-Multiverse (Reason in below Spoiler since it contains a big Bleach
Universal Extinction Level: Spoiler for those who haven't read the manga for at least )
(if anyone knows about what Ywach did to the Soul King, since killing the Soul King would be the same as destroying the entire Universe unless you made or became a new Soul King)

Galactic Extinction Level:
Planetary Extinction Level: The Naruto Sub-Multiverse (if u have seen The Last: Naruto the Movie will know this to be a fact)
Continental Extinction Level:
Country Extinction Level:
City Extinction Level:
District Extinction Level:
Local Vicinity Extinction Level:
Low Level Superhuman Level:
Regular Human Level: (I doubt anyone's characters would fit into this lowest category unless you had made a character who
Regular Human Level: was just a human that used highly advanced technology to fight and protect themselves so that they'd
Regular Human Level: be able to compete with characters who had Superhuman Capabilities)




As for the definition of Godmodding, I'll let you the RPers start out with what you consider to be Godmodding and then we'll collaborate on determining what defines Godmodding for the RP, ok?  
PostPosted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 6:31 pm


Understood!

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 6:42 pm


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Understood!


Okay so what input do you have for this meeting? I'd like more than just attendance, but actual participation, ok?
PostPosted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 6:58 pm


Kor Saiyajinkami
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Understood!


Okay so what input do you have for this meeting? I'd like more than just attendance, but actual participation, ok?


Well okay. But all I have for now is I would love for the other people to post. Maybe send out a PM to those who haven't post as a first warning, if they don't post by the third warning tell them to either post, or erase their profile. if they don't post their profile is just wasted space. Plus I can't post until Leo posts.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 7:05 pm


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Understood!


Okay so what input do you have for this meeting? I'd like more than just attendance, but actual participation, ok?


Well okay. But all I have for now is I would love for the other people to post. Maybe send out a PM to those who haven't post as a first warning, if they don't post by the third warning tell them to either post, or erase their profile. if they don't post their profile is just wasted space. Plus I can't post until Leo posts.


Not quite sure what you're talking about exactly. What I want in this thread is for the participants of the RP to provide me with their definitions of Godmodding so the group as a whole can come up with a collaborative definition of what will be considered Godmodding in the RP. Also maybe your input about the whole Nerf-Mechanics system and if you have any ideas for Levels of Power to add to those categories I listed above. Also we can talk about what franchise's Sub-Multiverse would fit in which Category of Power and that would be determined by what kinda things the most powerful known character in that franchise can do with his/her/it's power. If you can't understand what I mean by any of those things you can feel free to call me on Skype when you're next able to do so and I'll try to explain better since I'm better at explaining things thru talking than I am thru typing.
PostPosted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 7:14 pm


Kor Saiyajinkami
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Kor Saiyajinkami
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Understood!


Okay so what input do you have for this meeting? I'd like more than just attendance, but actual participation, ok?


Well okay. But all I have for now is I would love for the other people to post. Maybe send out a PM to those who haven't post as a first warning, if they don't post by the third warning tell them to either post, or erase their profile. if they don't post their profile is just wasted space. Plus I can't post until Leo posts.


Not quite sure what you're talking about exactly. What I want in this thread is for the participants of the RP to provide me with their definitions of Godmodding so the group as a whole can come up with a collaborative definition of what will be considered Godmodding in the RP. Also maybe your input about the whole Nerf-Mechanics system and if you have any ideas for Levels of Power to add to those categories I listed above. Also we can talk about what franchise's Sub-Multiverse would fit in which Category of Power and that would be determined by what kinda things the most powerful known character in that franchise can do with his/her/it's power. If you can't understand what I mean by any of those things you can feel free to call me on Skype when you're next able to do so and I'll try to explain better since I'm better at explaining things thru talking than I am thru typing.


Well that was my input on how to get people to post if you wanted some help with that. But I don't really know how else to help.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 8:54 pm


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Kor Saiyajinkami
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Understood!


Okay so what input do you have for this meeting? I'd like more than just attendance, but actual participation, ok?


Well okay. But all I have for now is I would love for the other people to post. Maybe send out a PM to those who haven't post as a first warning, if they don't post by the third warning tell them to either post, or erase their profile. if they don't post their profile is just wasted space. Plus I can't post until Leo posts.


Not quite sure what you're talking about exactly. What I want in this thread is for the participants of the RP to provide me with their definitions of Godmodding so the group as a whole can come up with a collaborative definition of what will be considered Godmodding in the RP. Also maybe your input about the whole Nerf-Mechanics system and if you have any ideas for Levels of Power to add to those categories I listed above. Also we can talk about what franchise's Sub-Multiverse would fit in which Category of Power and that would be determined by what kinda things the most powerful known character in that franchise can do with his/her/it's power. If you can't understand what I mean by any of those things you can feel free to call me on Skype when you're next able to do so and I'll try to explain better since I'm better at explaining things thru talking than I am thru typing.


Well that was my input on how to get people to post if you wanted some help with that. But I don't really know how else to help.


Well the meeting isn't about getting people to post tho. It's about the 2 listed topics in the original post which are working out a definition of Godmodding that we can all agree upon and working out the Nerf-Mechanics Guidelines table.

The Godmodding thing's first step is for everybody to tell me how they define Godmodding and then we can work together to come up with a definition that everybody can agree on for the RP.

As for the Nerf-Mechanics as I'm calling it, that is basically so that when we're in various Universes that we can all know exactly what the fair amount of nerfing is for any character that exceeds the capabilities of the max level of stats that characters native to each Universe can reach that they are automatically nerfed down to a fair level so that way we don't have the characters that have a lot of power like Kor, Scentrus, Demon Lady Sesshomaru, and others with a lot of power just wiping the floor with the enemies we encounter in the various Universes. I mean if Kor, Scentrus, and Demon Lady Sesshomaru weren't to get nerfed for the FMAB Universe we're currently in then well any one of them could annihilate Father and all 7 Homunculi with the simplest of ease if that's what they wanted to do. Do you get now why it's necessary to have such a set of Guidelines that determine how much certain characters will get Nerfed?

Also the point of having these meetings is so that I can share my control of the making of the rules, RP mechanics, and other decision making with the participants of the RP instead of how it is like in most RPs where the creator of the RP has all the power for determining those things and the RPers just have to let those things be w/o having any say in the matter.
PostPosted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 9:12 pm


Outside of the generally accepted terms of godmodding I can't really add much. Perhaps it's best stated that I see it as "playing god" when you have no authority to, or being "too active a god".

By that I mean obviously making your character hit another when you aren't necessarily given permission to have it connect. And the latter means protecting your character despite the fact they really ought to be vulnerable at that point in time.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 10:04 pm


SilentVex
Outside of the generally accepted terms of godmodding I can't really add much. Perhaps it's best stated that I see it as "playing god" when you have no authority to, or being "too active a god".

By that I mean obviously making your character hit another when you aren't necessarily given permission to have it connect. And the latter means protecting your character despite the fact they really ought to be vulnerable at that point in time.


Sounds pretty good to me. Now about the Nerf-Mechanics Guidelines; do you got any ideas for names of categories below City Extinction Level? Also what about any input as to various franchises' Sub-Multiverses and what Category they belong in?
PostPosted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 11:52 pm


I, myself, haven't got much to add when it comes to godmoddin'. Other than the simple rule I've been using for myself lately; "If it seems like cheating, it most likely is."

Power-Level talk... I'd say that Fullmetal Alchemist would be around the level of City Extinction, from what I can remember. One of the early episodes of Brotherhood did a pretty good job of showing off what kinda damage an Alchemist can do, if I remember correctly. It has been a while since I watched it, so go easy on me.
Unless you want to count final chapter Father, then it would jump up a couple levels of threat. I remember that much, at least.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 13, 2015 12:18 am


Dusky of Old
I, myself, haven't got much to add when it comes to godmoddin'. Other than the simple rule I've been using for myself lately; "If it seems like cheating, it most likely is."

Power-Level talk... I'd say that Fullmetal Alchemist would be around the level of City Extinction, from what I can remember. One of the early episodes of Brotherhood did a pretty good job of showing off what kinda damage an Alchemist can do, if I remember correctly. It has been a while since I watched it, so go easy on me.
Unless you want to count final chapter Father, then it would jump up a couple levels of threat. I remember that much, at least.


**Edited to Reflect the Results of Double Checking**


We'd be using the most powerful character(s) of each franchise to determine that franchise's Sub-Multiverse Threat Level Power for those characters. I'd hafta say that Father is either Continental or Planetary Extinction Level and actually could even be much more powerful possibly since he can turn anything in anything else on any scale and create super weak new bodies to transplant the souls that are inside him into said new bodies. I myself would hafta double check that because I forget if he was powerful enough to destroy Earth. I think I might use the fact that he has the potential to exceed Planetary Extinction Level to work that into happening via some stuff that Reaper will have done to make that happen in a way that I hope won't seem gimmicky or anything like that.
PostPosted: Tue Oct 13, 2015 12:57 am


Kor Saiyajinkami
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I, myself, haven't got much to add when it comes to godmoddin'. Other than the simple rule I've been using for myself lately; "If it seems like cheating, it most likely is."

Power-Level talk... I'd say that Fullmetal Alchemist would be around the level of City Extinction, from what I can remember. One of the early episodes of Brotherhood did a pretty good job of showing off what kinda damage an Alchemist can do, if I remember correctly. It has been a while since I watched it, so go easy on me.
Unless you want to count final chapter Father, then it would jump up a couple levels of threat. I remember that much, at least.


**Edited to Reflect the Results of Double Checking**


We'd be using the most powerful character(s) of each franchise to determine that franchise's Sub-Multiverse Threat Level Power for those characters. I'd hafta say that Father is either Continental or Planetary Extinction Level and actually could even be much more powerful possibly since he can turn anything in anything else on any scale and create super weak new bodies to transplant the souls that are inside him into said new bodies. I myself would hafta double check that because I forget if he was powerful enough to destroy Earth. I think I might use the fact that he has the potential to exceed Planetary Extinction Level to work that into happening via some stuff that Reaper will have done to make that happen in a way that I hope won't seem gimmicky or anything like that.


Hmm, I see.
Most likely not a good idea to use him as the limit, I think.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 13, 2015 1:20 am


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I, myself, haven't got much to add when it comes to godmoddin'. Other than the simple rule I've been using for myself lately; "If it seems like cheating, it most likely is."

Power-Level talk... I'd say that Fullmetal Alchemist would be around the level of City Extinction, from what I can remember. One of the early episodes of Brotherhood did a pretty good job of showing off what kinda damage an Alchemist can do, if I remember correctly. It has been a while since I watched it, so go easy on me.
Unless you want to count final chapter Father, then it would jump up a couple levels of threat. I remember that much, at least.


**Edited to Reflect the Results of Double Checking**


We'd be using the most powerful character(s) of each franchise to determine that franchise's Sub-Multiverse Threat Level Power for those characters. I'd hafta say that Father is either Continental or Planetary Extinction Level and actually could even be much more powerful possibly since he can turn anything in anything else on any scale and create super weak new bodies to transplant the souls that are inside him into said new bodies. I myself would hafta double check that because I forget if he was powerful enough to destroy Earth. I think I might use the fact that he has the potential to exceed Planetary Extinction Level to work that into happening via some stuff that Reaper will have done to make that happen in a way that I hope won't seem gimmicky or anything like that.


Hmm, I see.
Most likely not a good idea to use him as the limit, I think.


What do you mean by that? Father and those who defeated him are the most powerful beings in the FMAB Universe we're in. So when it comes to determining the Category that that the FMAB Sub-Multiverse belongs in, I'd hafta use the most strongest natives of that Sub-Multiverse.
PostPosted: Tue Oct 13, 2015 1:26 am


Kor Saiyajinkami
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Kor Saiyajinkami
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I, myself, haven't got much to add when it comes to godmoddin'. Other than the simple rule I've been using for myself lately; "If it seems like cheating, it most likely is."

Power-Level talk... I'd say that Fullmetal Alchemist would be around the level of City Extinction, from what I can remember. One of the early episodes of Brotherhood did a pretty good job of showing off what kinda damage an Alchemist can do, if I remember correctly. It has been a while since I watched it, so go easy on me.
Unless you want to count final chapter Father, then it would jump up a couple levels of threat. I remember that much, at least.


**Edited to Reflect the Results of Double Checking**


We'd be using the most powerful character(s) of each franchise to determine that franchise's Sub-Multiverse Threat Level Power for those characters. I'd hafta say that Father is either Continental or Planetary Extinction Level and actually could even be much more powerful possibly since he can turn anything in anything else on any scale and create super weak new bodies to transplant the souls that are inside him into said new bodies. I myself would hafta double check that because I forget if he was powerful enough to destroy Earth. I think I might use the fact that he has the potential to exceed Planetary Extinction Level to work that into happening via some stuff that Reaper will have done to make that happen in a way that I hope won't seem gimmicky or anything like that.


Hmm, I see.
Most likely not a good idea to use him as the limit, I think.


What do you mean by that? Father and those who defeated him are the most powerful beings in the FMAB Universe we're in. So when it comes to determining the Category that that the FMAB Sub-Multiverse belongs in, I'd hafta use the most strongest natives of that Sub-Multiverse.


That makes sense. Let's go with that.
Let's also say that I've had trouble making sense of what other people are saying today, and try not to hold it against me.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 13, 2015 1:39 am


Dusky of Old
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Hmm, I see.
Most likely not a good idea to use him as the limit, I think.


What do you mean by that? Father and those who defeated him are the most powerful beings in the FMAB Universe we're in. So when it comes to determining the Category that that the FMAB Sub-Multiverse belongs in, I'd hafta use the most strongest natives of that Sub-Multiverse.


That makes sense. Let's go with that.
Let's also say that I've had trouble making sense of what other people are saying today, and try not to hold it against me.


That makes sense. And I fully understand it since it makes so much sense, so I won't hold it against you because hey we all have off days every once in a while.
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