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 Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 8:45 am
In the same file that the 'Shocking Secrets' are in from the offical Lemony Snicket website, there is various selected evidence from the books that are supposed to help you come up with Shocking Secret #13. I thought I'd start some discussion on some of the more interesting selected evidence.
TRR - "Someone important disguised as a taxi driver passes unnoticed" I'm thinking that this is the same 'taxi driver' from TPP. This either means that Lemony Snicket was around during TRR -or- that if the taxi driver from TPP is not Lemony Snicket, he is still someone highly signifigant.
TWW - "Aunt Josephine reveals that her mother-in-law had only one eyebrow" Originally, I sort of took this statement with a grain of salt, but perhaps this means that there is more of a realtion between Count Olaf and the Baudelaire guardians than mere competition.
TMM - "Lemony Snicket mentions a 200-page book written by Beatrice" Perhaps we will see exerpts of this book in The Beatrice Letters?
TAA - "Quigley Quagmire discovers an article in the Bankok Gazette regarding an escaped murderer matching the description of Count Olaf" Clearly, this specific incident was not mention in TAA as we believed Quigley to be dead. Although it did happen at the time the orphans were at boarding school. Has the identity of this man been revealed in any of the books thus far? If not, who is it? It is too early for it to be Jaques Snicket... Perhaps Lemony?
TEE - "A plot involving a secret island is briefly refered to" Is this where the Baudelaires are headed for Book the Thirteenth?
THH - "The exsistence of a secret pocket in the Baudelaire's mother's coat is revealed" Perhaps for concealing poisoned darts?
TCC - "A fortune teller's crystal ball is broken - for the second time" When was the first?
TGG - "The water cycle takes on unusual importance" Will it be important in #13? Perhaps altering some plot on a secret island?
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Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 9:38 am
My thoughts:
TRR- I noticed the taxi driver part too, I was wondering if it was the one from TPP (who I think is lemony as well). I do know there was one other taxi driver in the series who we know was VFD because he was showing fake photos of his kids.
TWW- More food for thought, didn't Jacques say he had a unibrow as well? When he was wrongful accused in TVV? Or was that a disguise?
TMM- Wasn't that the book she wrote to him saying she couldn't marry him?
TAA- I do know Jacques was investigating the Mill incident. I think Quigley mentions it when he's explaining everything to the Baudelaries. (What city is the Bankok Gazette from?)
TEE- They mention an island with female pirates in the rare edition of Book the first. Many people think that's where Book the 13th will take place. (I think it's in the notes in the rare edition thread here)
THH- Maybe. I think Klaus also mentioned she had a small dictionary in her coat as well. (I think that was mentioned in THH as well when they were looking at the photograph)
TCC- The 2nd time is with the Baudelaires, right? The first...dunno, I'd have to read it again. Anyone else's thoughts?
TGG- That's an interesting point you brought up. Maybe it's just in hope that LS puts us to sleep and we don't read any more of the horrid books. wink
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Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 2:38 pm
rurouni_starchild (What city is the Bankok Gazette from?) The capital city of Thailand is Bangkok.
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Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 5:48 pm
Mara Mylenne rurouni_starchild (What city is the Bankok Gazette from?) The capital city of Thailand is Bangkok. Ok, that's what I thought. ^^; I was just wondering if it came from some city in the story's universe.
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Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 8:10 pm
Perhaps. But although the time and place is evidently ficticious, Snicket does use mostly real places when discussing things that come from outside the Baudelaire's direct environment. Ex: Arizona, San Fransisco, Winnipeg (yay!), those corridors built out of human skulls (Catacombs, Paris)... So I'm sure he's talking about the Thai Bangkok.
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Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 9:35 pm
Mara Mylenne Perhaps. But although the time and place is evidently ficticious, Snicket does use mostly real places when discussing things that come from outside the Baudelaire's direct environment. Ex: Arizona, San Fransisco, Winnipeg (yay!), those corridors built out of human skulls (Catacombs, Paris)... So I'm sure he's talking about the Thai Bangkok. That's true. Hmm...so yeah maybe it was Jaques or Lemony...or some other unibrowed VFD person. sweatdrop
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Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 8:13 am
Mara Mylenne Perhaps. But although the time and place is evidently ficticious, Snicket does use mostly real places when discussing things that come from outside the Baudelaire's direct environment. Ex: Arizona, San Fransisco, Winnipeg (yay!), those corridors built out of human skulls (Catacombs, Paris)... So I'm sure he's talking about the Thai Bangkok. when he mentions Arizona one of his characters is refering to a conversation with the King of Arizona. This makes me think it's ficticious.
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Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 1:29 pm
Well, yes, the King of Arizona is ficticious, but Arizona itself is not. That's kind of what I mean. The Bankok Gazette probably doesn't exsist, but that doesn't mean that Bangkok doesn't.
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Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 8:15 pm
AnijaYoukai Mara Mylenne Perhaps. But although the time and place is evidently ficticious, Snicket does use mostly real places when discussing things that come from outside the Baudelaire's direct environment. Ex: Arizona, San Fransisco, Winnipeg (yay!), those corridors built out of human skulls (Catacombs, Paris)... So I'm sure he's talking about the Thai Bangkok. when he mentions Arizona one of his characters is refering to a conversation with the King of Arizona. This makes me think it's ficticious. There's no Duchess of Winnipeg, either (Though Winnipeg is a real place). Perhaps they're code names?
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Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 10:28 pm
1inaBILLION AnijaYoukai Mara Mylenne Perhaps. But although the time and place is evidently ficticious, Snicket does use mostly real places when discussing things that come from outside the Baudelaire's direct environment. Ex: Arizona, San Fransisco, Winnipeg (yay!), those corridors built out of human skulls (Catacombs, Paris)... So I'm sure he's talking about the Thai Bangkok. when he mentions Arizona one of his characters is refering to a conversation with the King of Arizona. This makes me think it's ficticious. There's no Duchess of Winnipeg, either (Though Winnipeg is a real place). Perhaps they're code names? It's possible. Hmmm...maybe there are VFD branches all over the world...so maybe then the (ruling name) of (mass of land) could be the head of those branches? Just a random guess...
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Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2006 1:30 pm
Ooooo... That would be so cool. That means there's a VFD branch in my city. biggrin But yeah, that's a good guess; they run the local VFD branch. Or perhaps they're some sort of senior or superior member, warranting them a title.
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Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 8:21 pm
Anagrams? Have we checked these titles?
I always thought people called him the King because he was crazy or always drunk or something and he thought he was king of it. Like the Emperor of California.
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Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 3:50 pm
rofl Amusing thought. However, I'd like to think that VFD members are not the type to get rolling drunk and declare themselves the soveriegn of a united state/capital city/small village etc. it doesn't seem very noble or responsible.
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Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 8:49 am
Was browsing through a thread on thequietworld.com and came across some interesting theories from people's posts there.
TRR- Someone thought this could be Kit. I guess they were referring to that taxi driver when Olaf showed up as Stephano, saying something like he didn't want to hear about the upcoming baby. (Unfortunately my TRR is in my friend's room and he's asleep right now so I can't get the page # sweatdrop )
TAA- Evidently this might be a mistake. People were saying it was Duncan not Quigley who found it. Mistake or not? ninja
(Mine's at home so again no page # xd )
TCC- People were saying that somewhere in TMM Lemoney mentions that he broke a crystal ball...it's in one of his ramblings when someone gets tripped. I think it's Klaus when his glasses get broken. (My TMM is at home too. sad )
Anyways...just thought I'd share! ^_^
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Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 9:32 am
rurouni_starchild TRR- Someone thought this could be Kit. I guess they were referring to that taxi driver when Olaf showed up as Stephano, saying something like he didn't want to hear about the upcoming baby. I suppose the taxi driver could be Kit, although not for the reason you mentioned. I believe the driver was trying to show Count Olaf baby pictures which means that the baby was born already while Kit is still pregnant. In TUA, it says something about the baby pictures being part of the VFD taxi driver disguise. Therefore it could be any member of VFD. Perhaps checking up on the Baudelaires?
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