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 Posted: Thu May 28, 2015 8:39 pm
Yep, I'm thinking of building yet another RP. This time however, I'm looking to the wonderful AGE universe. This time would definitely be a retelling of the entire story however, unlike my ((Soon to be plural) previous RP's. I like the AGE series but, there are ways to change things.Maybe send some new units in. I feel like the Vegnant from 00 would work well in this type of retelling.
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Posted: Fri May 29, 2015 2:44 am
To be honest, I really haven't learned/ seen Gundam AGE. sweatdrop
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iHollisterKay Vice Captain
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Posted: Fri May 29, 2015 3:31 am
How many are you currently operating Phoenix?
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Posted: Fri May 29, 2015 3:35 am
This guy's a genius that's why lol. Who knows how many RP's hes running. jkjk wink
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Posted: Fri May 29, 2015 9:55 am
Mikuru Asahina San To be honest, I really haven't learned/ seen Gundam AGE. sweatdrop Basic history for the AGE universe: the world got rid of most of its advanced war technology, but some mysterious force (Later named Vagan) have mobile suits even more advanced than the federation's so the main character develops a mobile suit system that upgrades the Gundam's armaments and design. The story goes through 3 arcs over a few decades focusing on the son of the main character and the grandson of the main character. The Vagan's suits are REALLY cool though, nothing like the previous mobile suits in Gundam. iHollisterKay How many are you currently operating Phoenix? Once the AEU's rp starts, 2. I've tried running a couple in the past but they didn't survive long....
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Posted: Fri May 29, 2015 10:56 am
Yeah, it's a shame too. I liked the setup for that Gundam X one you had.
Anyway, I'm a bit picky on my crossover references. While they can certainly exist, they need good justification for existing in that universe/should be properly modified for the setting. If I saw GN particles in AGE without a proper explanation, for example, it'd bother me.
What sort of changes did you have in mind? I like the idea of being able to deviate from canon in a way if desired, rather than being in an RP where the outcome was 100% fixed. Feels like I'm actually contributing to the outcome more.
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Posted: Fri May 29, 2015 12:24 pm
Toshiro Yuki Yeah, it's a shame too. I liked the setup for that Gundam X one you had. Anyway, I'm a bit picky on my crossover references. While they can certainly exist, they need good justification for existing in that universe/should be properly modified for the setting. If I saw GN particles in AGE without a proper explanation, for example, it'd bother me. What sort of changes did you have in mind? I like the idea of being able to deviate from canon in a way if desired, rather than being in an RP where the outcome was 100% fixed. Feels like I'm actually contributing to the outcome more. well they never really explain a lot of the technicals in AGE, but I imagine that some things could be changed, like I imagine those units with GN particles flowing out could easily be changed for the Vagan's purple-spray propulsion stuff. I'm contemplating either a straight break from the beginning of AGE, or have it in the middle but the situation was more of a SEED or MSG where both were at a stalemate of sorts. It'd also probably take place more in space than earth.
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Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2015 11:26 am
Like I said before, I'm thinking about putting the RP near the beginning and avoiding the AGE system, but putting in the GT-Bit, the GW-Bit and GX-Bit (or G-Bit D.O.M.E. as mobile suits for the federation. The Genoace, Adele and especially the Clanche remind me of these suits so they could be spun as manned units. Thoughts?
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Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2015 8:36 am
I think the GX-based bits might be a bit too powerful to start out with, since they could probably kick the bitts of Vagan battleships and even later Vagan units if properly utilized. There's also the fact that transformable Mobile Suits are a rarity until after the Gundam AGE Unit 2. We have to consider the technology pacing if implementing the GW-based bits early. -- in short, ask "Do I want to change when Transformables Appear and explore the consequences thereof, or wait for a bit?".
Essentially, it depends on what you want to shoot for and when in the RP they should appear.
I also wonder, if you're removing the AGE System and using Gundam X units...will this be Gundam X with Vagan? Will it be X-Rounders vs. Newtypes (same thing called different things by each planet?)
The AGE System is a fundamental aspect of the show to remove, as well as removing essentially all the mass production units derived from its data. While not complaining about the ideas at all, I am wondering how deeply they impact it, and if it'd be more Gundam X with aspects of Gundam AGE borrowed at that point.
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Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2015 12:23 pm
Toshiro Yuki I think the GX-based bits might be a bit too powerful to start out with, since they could probably kick the bitts of Vagan battleships and even later Vagan units if properly utilized. There's also the fact that transformable Mobile Suits are a rarity until after the Gundam AGE Unit 2. We have to consider the technology pacing if implementing the GW-based bits early. -- in short, ask "Do I want to change when Transformables Appear and explore the consequences thereof, or wait for a bit?". Essentially, it depends on what you want to shoot for and when in the RP they should appear. I also wonder, if you're removing the AGE System and using Gundam X units...will this be Gundam X with Vagan? Will it be X-Rounders vs. Newtypes (same thing called different things by each planet?) The AGE System is a fundamental aspect of the show to remove, as well as removing essentially all the mass production units derived from its data. While not complaining about the ideas at all, I am wondering how deeply they impact it, and if it'd be more Gundam X with aspects of Gundam AGE borrowed at that point. Points taken. I just feel that the AGE system, while the show was based around it, was a pretty big plot device and even through the show they just abandoned it at the final battle like it was worthless then. Sure they reached peace but they could still use that technology for other things like they created the suits to protect against the mars rays. I just don't see a major need to add it in when we deviate from the beginning of the story, and if we do add it it would be just one gundam and pilot unless we mass-produce the gundam for those multiple packs, but then I think there'd be an oversaturation of units. As for the mobile suits, they wouldn't be pure copy-pasta. The X-bit's weapon would have similar firepower to the Grafran's tail rifle. Like SEED Reconstruction, I'm not fully moving over certain suits and their abilities. I'm more of taking their image and filling them with the current era's technology. This is still in development so we've got time for figure this all out.
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Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2015 1:52 pm
They didn't abandon the entire AGE System in the last episode as I recall, though. Only the AGE Builder on the Diva was destroyed. The Mars Ray thing was a collaboration achieved by combining the surviving AGE System data with the EXA-DB.
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Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2015 2:08 pm
Toshiro Yuki They didn't abandon the entire AGE System in the last episode as I recall, though. Only the AGE Builder on the Diva was destroyed. The Mars Ray thing was a collaboration achieved by combining the surviving AGE System data with the EXA-DB. But the age builder was one of the 3 essential parts of the age system. The gundam, age device and age builder were the three, and I feel that the age builder was the most important as it built everything for the gundam from the age device's data. (Also, POOR DIVA!) I should probably re clarify though, by avoiding the AGE system I meant not placing the entire story's reliance on it. I'm pretty sure the federation would be able to make some leaps and bounds after reaching a stalemate with Vagan, after the AGE system gave them a boost for their beam weaponry.
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Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2015 4:40 pm
What about this;
The Vagan-federation war has been going on for some 10 years and has reached a stalemate thanks to the AGE system they've brought their technology up to par with the technology Vagan has obtained from the Exa-DB. Both sides have created specialized units in an attempt to break the stalemate in their favor. These units contain mobile suits called Gundams, and can be changed based on the pilot's preference or the situation's requirements.
Only issue with this really i finding more 'gundams' for the Vagan. Not a lot of them that would fit the Vagan's designs.They'd probably have more variations of their suits instead.
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Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2015 5:25 pm
Maybe they're only called Gundams on the Federation side, and are something else on the Vagan side? I could see the Tallgeese, Mercurius, and Vayete having similar head designs to the Vagan units, or even being high-tier prototypes for them.
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Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2015 6:15 pm
Toshiro Yuki Maybe they're only called Gundams on the Federation side, and are something else on the Vagan side? I could see the Tallgeese, Mercurius, and Vayete having similar head designs to the Vagan units, or even being high-tier prototypes for them. I think the Wing suits seem too blocky to be Vagan suits. Maybe some of the redesigns wouldn't be so bad, but all the Vagan suits feature nice curved armor, and a basic look/design from the gafran up to the Danazine. I'll see what I can find. Although I can see things like the GNZ series without those back units fitting Vagan design theme.
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