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larkadroid

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 09, 2014 7:08 pm


Cooperative Bidding for 25 Great Monarchs


This thread is to document the cooperative efforts of guild members to bid on the 25 Great Monarchs in Flynn's Plunder.

You can reference the earlier discussions in this thread.

What's going on?
I will bid on all interested individuals' behalves on the 25 Great Monarchs in Flynn's Plunder. As the estimated winning bid is more than most individuals have available, several of us agreed to pool our gold to have the best chance at winning the auction.

How to contribute?
    Quote me (Larkadroid) and let me know that you would like to add your gold into our bidding pool. Please state how much for the sake of official record keeping. If you've already posted in the other thread there is no need to quote me.

    Start a labeled trade with me, add in the amount of gold you wish to contribute. I will confirm the trade (my avatar will show "?"), then you confirm the trade (your avatar shows the "OK" speech bubble). If you want, you may take a screencap too for your personal records. I will also be taking a screencap and post it in this thread.

    If I need the gold to continue bidding, I will complete the trade.


Will I be allowed to modify my contribution?
Yes, of course! You may add or subtract any amount of gold from the trade, or cancel it all together whenever you want. After all, it is still your gold. I will just update the record accordingly.

When is the deadline for contributing?
    The auction ends on Tuesday June 10th at around 5:53 PM EDT. I would like to have all the gold count finalized by 3:00 PM EST that same day.


What will happen if we win?
    If we win the auction, we will divide up the 25 Great Monarchs based on percentage contribution. Example:
    We win the auction, Person A contributed 45% of the gold pool, Person B contributed 35%, and Person C 20%.

    Here is what each person should receive based on percentage (notice it is not always round numbers):

    Person A - 25 Monarchs x 45% = 11.25
    Person B - 25 Monarchs x 35% = 8.75
    Person C - 25 Monarchs x 20% = 5

    Suggestion: If we win, we'll divide the winning bid by 25 to determine the cost per Monarch. Anyone that contributed that amount or more will receive at least one Monarch. The remaining Monarchs could then be split based on contribution percentage after deducting the claimed Monarchs. No one is going to receive a free Monarch, you can only receive Monarchs based on how much gold you contributed to the pool.

    I suggest the person with the highest partial percentage be given the first opportunity to add more gold to get the additional Monarch. If that person declines the option will pas to the next highest partial percentage.

    In this example, Person B would have the first option followed by Person A. If Person B puts in more gold for the Monarch, Person A only pays for 11 Monarchs and the remainder of their gold is returned.


What will happen if you lose?
If we do not win the auction, I will return all of your gold.

Regardless of what happens, you will get all of your gold back if we do not win the Flynn's Plunder auction.


Credit goes to Yami no Sakura for the thread setup I borrowed.
PostPosted: Mon Jun 09, 2014 7:09 pm


List of Contributors:


Total Gold: 465 billion

Current HB: 112 billion by Ulquiorra-Kun (4.48 billion per Monarch)

EDIT: We have all the gold we need - I think we should close the contributions.

If your contribution isn't underlined, then I don't have a trade from you. Trades need to be sent by 3PM EST today for you to be part of the pool.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 09, 2014 7:10 pm


Quote me
PostPosted: Mon Jun 09, 2014 7:22 pm


Larkadroid
Quote me
Are you still setting up? Lmk if you are and I'll delete this post.

Just getting everyone's attention (I know some of you already saw this so please disregard :3)

CherryblueSky
VinaGal
Meromictic
Yuzuhara
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Yami no Sakura
Okami Ameras

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 09, 2014 7:28 pm


piggyzhou
Larkadroid
Quote me
Are you still setting up? Lmk if you are and I'll delete this post.

Just getting everyone's attention (I know some of you already saw this so please disregard :3)

CherryblueSky
VinaGal
Meromictic
Yuzuhara
Atori 0
Yami no Sakura
Okami Ameras


That's fine, thanks. Just adding trade pics now.
PostPosted: Mon Jun 09, 2014 7:29 pm


Errr... sweatdrop

Guh. 5 mil is all I have right now. I wouldn't be able to make up the difference... I'm not sure I'd even get one if I put in my bid.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 09, 2014 7:33 pm


Larkadroid
Quote me
I would like to point out that at the current "distribution" ratio, those investing 5 billion make up only .30 of a Monarch (not even 1 Great Monarch) -- that's (5/403)*25=.3.

It does not appear that they have any chance of getting a Monarch, even if the bid was won at price of 1g per Great Monarch, because the 25 Great Monarchs would go to everyone else who make up at least 1 or more of a Monarch. Does this make sense?

Okami Ameras
PostPosted: Mon Jun 09, 2014 7:37 pm


piggyzhou
Larkadroid
Quote me
I would like to point out that at the current "distribution" ratio, those investing 5 billion make up only .30 of a Monarch (not even 1 Great Monarch) -- that's (5/403)*25=.3.

It does not appear that they have any chance of getting a Monarch, even if the bid was won at price of 1g per Great Monarch, because the 25 Great Monarchs would go to everyone else who make up at least 1 or more of a Monarch. Does this make sense?

Okami Ameras
I realize that... why is why I am reluctant. I'm sorry for seeming selfish, but I'm not going to put my gold into something I'm not going to get at least a little bit back from.

I'm afraid that unless I get at LEAST one monarch, I'm not going to participate in this.

Also: I think your words were directed at Larka. I'm sorry if it seemed like I snapped at you, piggy. Thank you for pointing this out. heart

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 09, 2014 7:53 pm


Larkadroid

I would like to contribute 40b, please.
Thank you.
PostPosted: Mon Jun 09, 2014 7:54 pm


Okami Ameras
piggyzhou
Larkadroid
Quote me
I would like to point out that at the current "distribution" ratio, those investing 5 billion make up only .30 of a Monarch (not even 1 Great Monarch) -- that's (5/403)*25=.3.

It does not appear that they have any chance of getting a Monarch, even if the bid was won at price of 1g per Great Monarch, because the 25 Great Monarchs would go to everyone else who make up at least 1 or more of a Monarch. Does this make sense?

Okami Ameras
I realize that... why is why I am reluctant. I'm sorry for seeming selfish, but I'm not going to put my gold into something I'm not going to get at least a little bit back from.

I'm afraid that unless I get at LEAST one monarch, I'm not going to participate in this.


Right now the bid is at 4.2 billion per monarch. If you put in 5 billion and the final price per monarch is 5 billion or less you would get one. If the price per monarch goes above the amount you put in, then you most likely won't get one. My numbers are off, they consider only the total pool of gold and assume it was all used on the bid. I didn't intend to make the rules, that is up to all of us. I can reword it and I'm certainly open to changes.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 09, 2014 7:58 pm


piggyzhou
I totally understand what you mean...lets just wait till it ends, okay...
I'm sure everything is going alright... emotion_yatta
PostPosted: Mon Jun 09, 2014 8:00 pm


Larkadroid
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piggyzhou
Larkadroid
Quote me
I would like to point out that at the current "distribution" ratio, those investing 5 billion make up only .30 of a Monarch (not even 1 Great Monarch) -- that's (5/403)*25=.3.

It does not appear that they have any chance of getting a Monarch, even if the bid was won at price of 1g per Great Monarch, because the 25 Great Monarchs would go to everyone else who make up at least 1 or more of a Monarch. Does this make sense?

Okami Ameras
I realize that... why is why I am reluctant. I'm sorry for seeming selfish, but I'm not going to put my gold into something I'm not going to get at least a little bit back from.

I'm afraid that unless I get at LEAST one monarch, I'm not going to participate in this.


Right now the bid is at 4.2 billion per monarch. If you put in 5 billion and the final price per monarch is 5 billion or less you would get one. If the price per monarch goes above the amount you put in, then you most likely won't get one. My numbers are off, they consider only the total pool of gold and assume it was all used on the bid. I didn't intend to make the rules, that is up to all of us. I can reword it and I'm certainly open to changes.
Mmph. If the bid price rises higher then that, I'm out, unfortunately. I have other things I'd rather spend my gold on.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 09, 2014 8:26 pm


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piggyzhou
I totally understand what you mean...lets just wait till it ends, okay...
I'm sure everything is going alright... emotion_yatta
Yeah~ You're right ^^!
PostPosted: Mon Jun 09, 2014 9:57 pm


Meromictic

CherryblueSky

Yuzuhara

Atori 0

VinaGal

Okami Ameras

piggyzhou


Just trying to think this out and see how to split the Monarchs if we win. Suggestions and feedback welcome.

At 413 billion we could bid 16.52 per Monarch, but if it does go that high anyone under 16.52 billion in contributions would be out, lowering the total to 403 billion or 16.12 billion per Monarch.

If we win, I think splitting the Monarchs by contribution percentage is the fairest method. That said I also think if you contributed enough to buy a Monarch you should receive one.

Bid 125 Billion (5 billion per Monarch)
Meromictic 9 Monarchs + 105 billion (150-45)
Larkadroid 7 Monarchs + 86 Billion (121-35)
CherryblueSky 4 Monarchs + 55 Billion (75-20)
Yuzuhara 2 Monarchs + 30 Billion (40-10)
Atori 1 Monarch + 12 Billion (17-5)
VinaGal 1 Monarch
Okami Ameras 1 Monarch

Bid 200 Billion (8 billion per Monarch)
Meromictic 9 Monarchs + 78 billion (150-72)
Larkadroid 7 Monarchs + 57 Billion (121-64)
CherryblueSky 4 Monarchs + 35 Billion (75-40)
Yuzuhara 2 Monarchs + 24 Billion (40-16)
Atori 1 Monarch + 9 Billion (17-8 )
VinaGal - gold refunded
Okami Ameras - gold refunded

Suggestion: Take 2 "extra" Monarchs and generate two random numbers to see who get to buy them? Or round up highest numbers?


Bid 400 Billion (16 billion per Monarch)
Meromictic 9 Monarchs + 6 billion (150-144)
Larkadroid 7 Monarchs + 9 Billion (121-112)
CherryblueSky 4 Monarchs + 11 Billion (75-64)
Yuzuhara 2 Monarchs + 8 Billion (40-32)
Atori 1 Monarch + 1 Billion (17-16)
VinaGal - gold refunded
Okami Ameras - gold refunded

Problem - only 3 billion left and need to refund 35 billion - 2 Monarchs leftover
See if any participants have enough to add to buy, or sell to get gold for refunds?

EDIT: Contribution amounts are subject to change. Only amounts actually send in a trade will count toward your contribution percentage.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 09, 2014 10:05 pm


Larkadroid
Sorry about all the fuss from me :3 Your solution is simple and fair!

As for the "leftovers" -- I think it's fair what you said before: The people who contributed the most should have the opportunity to pick and choose if they want it.

I'm not sure if you want to offer both to one person or one to each of the top 2 contribtors, though.
Actually, I think ultimately what happens to "leftovers" should be something that only the people contributing gold should have a say on. I mean if you all want to sell the remaining 2 and distribute the profit proportionally, who am I to say otherwise XD

I think they're all great ideas on what to do with the leftover, it's just up to the 7 (or 5) of you
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