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Posted: Sun May 18, 2014 11:58 pm
SO, I finally completed DQ III, the final ending of the Erdrick/Loto Trilogy awhile back and I figured it would be cool to do a little analytical discussion thread of how each of them hold up. Truth be told, I've had this idea planned for a very long time. So if there's anyone that's a fan of the original three Dq games, feel free to come here and discuss. Even if you haven't played all of the original trilogy, or have played one game. By all means come on in! I'd love to hear everyone's thoughts on the matter! ^_^
But I think to make things less complicated... I should probably do this with one game each week at a time. DQ II could be next week and so on... I don't want to make this too Td;lr or anything like that. Actually, maybe it could be fun to do a whole series discussion at some point in the future? =D
(Though I should try and get my hands on DQ IV and the others at some point myself... sweatdrop )
Alright, in the beginning I've talked about in the guild how I've discovered the very first DQ nes game of the series when I was around I'd like to say 12. If anything it was pretty much by pure accident. And to make a long story short, I searched online while using my father's computer out of boredom to play some online games. Keep in mind this was before I even knew of emulation. Then I came across a link that said Dragon Warrior. The name alone sounded so awesome to me at the time.
And as the story goes, I played it for awhile and I found myself being bored of it. The problem wasn't necessarily the game at all. It's just that I didn't really understand RPGs until a much later age. Oh, also this I just remembered. I actually did play the fourth DQ game by mistake before but it was only in japanese.
Years later, it was around the time that Tiki and Seth talked about how DQ games were actually very good games. I was fairly new to the FE guild and such. So I decided return back to the past and pick up the original Dragon Warrior game on the Nes. And honestly I enjoyed it in the end. Heck, I made a thread way way back in this guild. But I felt it should be revisited a little more deeper.
DQI is a very simple Rpg. The story is simple, the gameplay is simple. Everything about DQ I is simple! You're the descendant of the legendary warrior Erdrick/Loto. Your main quest is to rescue the princess of Alefgard from a mighty fire breathing dragon, but also defeat the Dragonlord in order to free this land from his tyranny. It may not be the strongest of the whole series, but there's still very much to appreciate about DQI.
I think this was the game that started the very JRPG trend that we have today. It gives you the player a feel of being in the shoes of the adventurer or hero. And that's what I really like about DQ.. The simplicity of the games. It introduced action commands. In battles we get a first person point of view of being thrown right into the battle. It makes for some very intense situations at times.
The soundtrack is all around pretty memorable. Though, there's not a whole lot of variety in tracks considering it's the first game of the series. And the nes had limits at the time. But the overall feeling of the 8bit music is pretty nice. I think my favorites are overworld theme and especially how dramatic the battle theme can get at times.(Especially in the remake)
But of course if there's a nitpick I might have to say that the game itself aside from the quests of locating Erdricks gear, getting the necessary items(Sun Stone and the Rain Staff) for the Rainbow drops just to name a few examples. It's very much the grinding game in the entire game. The remake is slightly like heavy on the grinding aspect of it. There aren't as many commands like before and a few other changes. You'd have a much easier time with the remakes simply put.But don't get me wrong, in Rpgs it's the common that if you're under leveled, you have to grind and get stronger and gain more gold. Dragon Quest makes you earn for that which I really do respect.
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Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2014 11:06 am
Ah yes, Dragon Quest, or Dragon Warrior, if you're my father, perhaps one of my greatest off chance discoveries in terms of video games. It may be strange, but my fondest moment I have is when this old game gave me the authentic feeling of panic and hopelessness, when I was stuck in the Garinham caves, without a torch or any magic to use. I imagine that this is the feeling an explorer gets when his flash light dies in a cave, and he is consumed with darkness, and I therefore, must salute DQ for giving me the actual feeling, without having to experience it first-hand.
I must admit, however, unlike the original generation, who found stuff out by exploring the somewhat minuscule world, I did use a strategy guide. Seeing as I was a young teenager, who grew up with straightforward RPGs with gradual difficulty curves, Dragon Warrior was no doubt a challenge for me. Moreso that I first played the original NES version, without the nice features the GBC and SNES versions have, such as stat seeds, expanded lighting and more EXP. Nonetheless, I remember the feeling of pride I had when I defeated the Dragonlord on my own, as well as raiding Charlock castle for the final confrontation.
Of course, at this point, I know the game, so much so that I can stroll on over to Haukness and search the marsh behind the weapon shop for Erdrick's Armour without any help, and just as easily search the nearby marsh to the east for the token. This was my very first Dragon Quest, and admittedly and sort of embarrassing, I have probably only done four or five runs of it on all versions. I am thinking I want to do another run in the future, seeing as I just finished my Spring semester, and am not enrolled in any Summer classes.
So, to sum up, this game is one of the central factors that influenced me to play the kinds of games I play now. People would say that it was mayhap a coincidence that I stumbled across this game one bored Summer, but perhaps it's more than coincidence? Last year, I was talking to my father, and he too remembers the long searches for Erdrick's equipment, finding the hidden staircase behind the throne in Charlock, grinding for EXP by fighting Metal Slimes and being forced to marry and aggressive princess.
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ThePersonInFrontOfYou Vice Captain
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Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 7:19 am
I remember reading about someone who played Dragon Warrior back in the day as a little elementary school kid.
And he was so excited after bringing Gwaelin back form the cave that he went around raving to his friends about how "You beat a dragon and rescue the princess... BUT THE GAME ISN'T OVER! IT'S NOT EVEN HALF DONE!!"
That will never not be adorable.
I didn't play the first one in its heyday, but I inched through it a while back. Someday I want to buckle down and beat it in a day like the fancy people, since that actually seems doable. Since I played DQIII first (I am STILL amazed that Rhyus prince of Cannock was able to play the first three games in order without any spoilers... IN 2013!) I knew the world already but it was fun seeing Alefgard in its original form, with the brighter original version of Unknown world playing on the world map instead of the older, more deliberate version of old, dark Alefguard. They're both great but they have a wonderful contrast that brings forth how the world has changed for the better even though it is in peril again.
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Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 2:06 pm
I just wanted to leave a few last words.
But I'm glad to see some life here.
As for Hassan, going through Garinham's grave without a torch does sound pretty scary. Wandering in the darkness alone until you die can become a traumatic experience...And I can totally see that part of it. I also played and finished the NES version first and eventually sought out the remake on the snes. So I've played it about twice.. (I haven't gotten around to III on the nes yet though)
And as for Tiki,(A.K.A the third Loto) I'm glad you finally showed up! Dragon Quest I can be done in a day once you know what to do. I mean compared to Dragon Warrior 2 on the nes, it's much more tolerable. And grinding isn't exactly that crazy in the remakes either. But the real question is.. ARE YOU UP FOR IT? wink
I was totally amazed myself when I got through the games without any spoils.(Not counting the nes version of III) It took awhile, but I made it all in one piece in the end. And I absolutely love Alefgard in DQ III. But both versions of unknown warrior are indeed excellent. Each one suits the tone in their own ways. One is bright, happy, and optimistic, while the other is quite the opposite.( But more on that once we get to III)
And you know with Dragon Quest recently getting an award for longest JRPG series, it all happened with this one game. So I'm fairly grateful for what it did. Without it we wouldn't have Dragon Quest at all.
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Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2014 9:55 pm
Thank you both for posting Hassan and Tiki.
I wish there was people around to talk about the older game... but without further ado, we shall move onto the next installment of the Erdrick Legacy. It's time for... Dragon Quest II!
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