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PostPosted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 11:00 pm


Take note that this will be my last comment on the topic.

You know, I remember this guild from a long time ago. I remember when it was the WRP Discussion guild, a place where we would just post, have fun, point out mistakes, exchange some tips and tricks and just help each other improve and become better RPers all around. That feeling of helping someone and make him a more enjoyable opponent for everyone was what motivated people to post here and just, overall, have a good time.

But this place changed in the past few years. I'm saying years because the past few days is just the climax of what's been a very long time coming. It all started a few years ago, when people started to realize that getting opportunities was just not possible anymore, The RPers were literally divided in clans. On one side, you had the one who wanted some change, and on the other, you had the instigators of the Politics Era. Well, saying it was an era is a strong word, especially considering that we didn't give a crap about that for most of that time anyway. It's just when it became impossible to live that we actually thought it was time to do something.

It was the start of what most of us know as the Bullshit Era.

Lots of discussions, lots of beef between RPers, some that quit because of that, our community hasn't been the same since the lows of that era. We lost some greats with all of this drama and I'm not just talking RP-wise, I'm talking as people. Some probably don't even wanna hear their names again, but that's their problem. THEIR. PROBLEM. AND. THEIRS. ONLY. People jumping in to add comments about what's obviously between two individuals doesn't help at all. We should know, we've been doing that for years here and look where we're at.

We've seen a s**t ton of threads bashing people and just trying to run down their style, them as a person at some point. This place is packed with negativity.

This place. Which, to me, is the common denominator to most of our problems.

And I know many think that, too! I mean, before this guild, we didn't interact with each other as much as we do now, so it had a positive impact. Too bad it backfired though... But yeah, all this to say that lately, this place has been used for one thing in particular: arguing. Yes, the bitching threads are being locked and moved. Yes, the crewmembers are trying their best to keep the bullshit to the lowest, but at the same time, it is obvious that the attempt to press on the cauldron's lid only makes the steam even hotter and when it blows up, which seems to be a matter of weeks, maybe days as we speak... I can't say it more, the attempt is really noble and well thought, but at this point, anything is just adding fuel to the fire. Even this little rant of mine will be enough to have people being like "oh I disagree, stop whining" and whatnot. Unfortunately for them, I ran out of ******** to give.

This is not anyone's fault, and I think I won't put enough emphasis on that. However, I believe the best bet to move on is to just move away from all the negativity that comes out of this place, full of our best and worst history.

I'm not here to promote any alternate guilds, but all I'm saying is that the best bet is probably to go somewhere else, where we won't be influenced by what's been said in the past in this place and where the tone will, hopefully, be more joyful.

That was my 2 cents. Feel free to comment, lock the thread or even ban me for dickriding if you want, I don't give a damn anymore...
PostPosted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 11:35 pm


#NewYearNewThings

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 11:51 pm


Here
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 1:05 am


Here's a few options..


A) Jump Ship
Lock down all posts here, Copy/Paste topics/threads you want and bring it over to the Reborn new Social Guild and let it truly be reborn a new year.

B) Bullshit Sub-Forum
Have it limited time for a month or three to duke it out then make your last statements of vile. From there on, no more insults. You can't even joke around. Not even when it's obvious. s**t just got into lock down. Be positive, helpful, informative, and the like. Anything else.. warnings to Ban Hammer.. lock down goes six months or 2015.

C) Be Civil
You grow a set and be an adult. You got a problem? Bring it to the person you have it with. Politely. Decently. Meaning don't be rude. No profanity. No insults. No sarcasm. You state your perspective without spite or bitterness. How? Take some time. Cool down. Level your head before sending a message back. Research a point made against/toward you or stated of you. Put simply.. think before you speak. Don't try to "win" "best" be "right". Two sides to every story and all that jazz.

D) Mediate
Appoint a ******** Mediator already! Damn it! You got a bunch of preaching speech givers of peace and s**t! Have them come up with a way to end variances between those that need it. One issue at a time.
A mile walk starts with one step at a time.
Takes time and patience to unknot last years Christmas lights.


E) ******** It
They way you're going doesn't seem to be working. Take another course of action if none of the above seem acceptable and come up with your own or just step back and do nothing. Watch it play out and maybe we're still around for next year.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 1:13 am


It's not called the 'Reborn' social guild anymore
It's called 'Social' guild
PostPosted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 1:24 am


Yukari Clepsydra
It's not called the 'Reborn' social guild anymore
It's called 'Social' guild


Thank you for the correction, I have corrected myself.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 1:36 am


Weird Fox
Here's a few options..


A) Jump Ship
Lock down all posts here, Copy/Paste topics/threads you want and bring it over to the Reborn new Social Guild and let it truly be reborn a new year.

B) Bullshit Sub-Forum
Have it limited time for a month or three to duke it out then make your last statements of vile. From there on, no more insults. You can't even joke around. Not even when it's obvious. s**t just got into lock down. Be positive, helpful, informative, and the like. Anything else.. warnings to Ban Hammer.. lock down goes six months or 2015.

C) Be Civil
You grow a set and be an adult. You got a problem? Bring it to the person you have it with. Politely. Decently. Meaning don't be rude. No profanity. No insults. No sarcasm. You state your perspective without spite or bitterness. How? Take some time. Cool down. Level your head before sending a message back. Research a point made against/toward you or stated of you. Put simply.. think before you speak. Don't try to "win" "best" be "right". Two sides to every story and all that jazz.

D) Mediate
Appoint a ******** Mediator already! Damn it! You got a bunch of preaching speech givers of peace and s**t! Have them come up with a way to end variances between those that need it. One issue at a time.
A mile walk starts with one step at a time.
Takes time and patience to unknot last years Christmas lights.


E) ******** It
They way you're going doesn't seem to be working. Take another course of action if none of the above seem acceptable and come up with your own or just step back and do nothing. Watch it play out and maybe we're still around for next year.


All options looks too good to me.
PostPosted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 2:36 am


Holy s**t...Fox is actually being wise for once. No offense but smartest thing you have said

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 5:48 am


Or we hug it out and eat Taco Bell
PostPosted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 6:09 am


I still say if you're jumping on my d**k, I expect dinner and a movie.
A classy dinner
none of that cheap a** s**t.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 7:00 am


Damijin Spade
Or we hug it out and eat Taco Bell

Taco Bell? Anytime! biggrin
PostPosted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 7:03 am


I do like the idea of a trolling or general chatterbox subforum. If anything, it will help reduce clutter on the main page and keep relevant community discussion from being buried. Whether or not people will go to make threads there, however, remains to be seen, but hey, threads can be moved.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 7:04 am


HUG IT OUT! HUG IT OUT!
PostPosted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 7:07 am


Weird Fox
Here's a few options..


A) Jump Ship
Lock down all posts here, Copy/Paste topics/threads you want and bring it over to the Reborn new Social Guild and let it truly be reborn a new year.

I wouldn't go so drastic, mostly because moving the stuff would take ages, but it's definitely something to consider.

Weird Fox
B) Bullshit Sub-Forum
Have it limited time for a month or three to duke it out then make your last statements of vile. From there on, no more insults. You can't even joke around. Not even when it's obvious. s**t just got into lock down. Be positive, helpful, informative, and the like. Anything else.. warnings to Ban Hammer.. lock down goes six months or 2015.

I like that option, mostly because no one goes into the subforums so the arguing would just die.

Weird Fox
C) Be Civil
You grow a set and be an adult. You got a problem? Bring it to the person you have it with. Politely. Decently. Meaning don't be rude. No profanity. No insults. No sarcasm. You state your perspective without spite or bitterness. How? Take some time. Cool down. Level your head before sending a message back. Research a point made against/toward you or stated of you. Put simply.. think before you speak. Don't try to "win" "best" be "right". Two sides to every story and all that jazz.

I think you nailed it: people react too early and don't have time to think before they speak. Or they do, but they don't think right because of their anger.

Weird Fox
D) Mediate
Appoint a ******** Mediator already! Damn it! You got a bunch of preaching speech givers of peace and s**t! Have them come up with a way to end variances between those that need it. One issue at a time.
A mile walk starts with one step at a time.
Takes time and patience to unknot last years Christmas lights.

Know what? Out of all the ideas, this "Bullshit Ombudsman" is the one that I like the most. A permanent judge who's looking at all the stuff and be like "according to the bro code..." well, not the Bro Code, but you get the concept.

Weird Fox
E) ******** It
They way you're going doesn't seem to be working. Take another course of action if none of the above seem acceptable and come up with your own or just step back and do nothing. Watch it play out and maybe we're still around for next year.

That option should be applied to anyone who isn't in the arguing, period. It's not about you? Don't make it about you.

Seriously Fox, just like a whale splashing into the bay, that was awesome!

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 7:15 am


Question about mediator: would it be better for the mediator to be crew or non-crew? I know people have said Shadow would be good for the spot.
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