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 Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 11:25 pm
Perhaps one of the most staple part of anything we do, Character Development. Most of us have been around for ages enough to have a well fleshed out story, some of our characters parallel each other career wise, others are completely left field.
So with that being said, has your original vision for your character stayed in tact, or have you changed it/
Also, give us a little in sight about YOUR character and the story of the idea you had for them and move on to current if possible.
Or perhaps tell us your take on someone else's character and the development they've done.
For myself, I got lucky with Chrono and pretty much everything I had envisioned for him stayed intact.
A mortal, a man who because of his name sake believed so much that he was a deity, an entity became one, (ala Puss in Boots.) Through heartbreak and loss, he became a secluded monster destroying everything in his path, wronged for something he didn't do, would later get revenge. (Ala Count of Monte Cristo)
The revenge consumed him, and he cemented himself as a great evil, and as he became alone in his thoughts, his methods became more calculating, upon joining others (Yuke), and amassing an army, he was ready to show the world what he was made of, by conquering he'd a mass a great territory, manipulating others long the way. He envisioned himself to be a great leader, despite his tyranny. He desired to be better, because of all the 'injustice' he saw in other territories (Guilds) he created his own, to prove once and for all without a shadow of a doubt that his words rain true.
His successes would bring him ego, his pushing away of friends and torturing others would only aid him into finding that one person who could eventually take him down of off his high pedestal, and make him feel 'human' once again (Matt Shanahan)
So he could focus on his family that he cast aside, guide them until he had to return again.
At least that's how I imagined it, it took a while and I think a decades worth of development and such worked well.
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Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2013 6:40 am
Shadow, is in fact, my second character. The first one I made being Kid Thrash who later dropped the kid. Shadow was made in frustrations for the lack of fun I was having with Kid Thrash at the time. Originally, as the name implied, I had planned on having him shadow his opponent's movements and have his move-set eventually be compiled of all the people he defeated. That was dropped incredibly early.
At launch, Shadow became more of a submission-based wrestler because it wasn't that popular at the time and he was a hybrid goth/black magic gimmick that never got fully realized. I had actually never intended for him to be everyone's favorite emo but I guess with a name like Shadow, running around in a tag team called Forsaken, and being cynical about the whole world, I should have seen it coming.
I think what the selling point eventually became was that through spending three years on the mid-card, having done fantastic storylines with a bunch of the main eventers but always being stuck on the high mid-card, the snark and cynical emo guy was enjoyable and the story I had in mind eventually just became the word "Forsaken", despite eventually meeting such great success. Eventually I realized that this guy was half-white, half Japanese who learned to wrestle so he could fight against his Mother. And dealing with racism from both Asians and Whites further enforced an idea that he could fight to be treated as an equal, only to find that performing and sacrifice in hellish matches and tag-teams to stay on the mid-card made him realize that what he was good at was playing people(Thanks to a faction called the Tibetan Black Magicians) and turning his abandonment into being untouchable. Eventually, he stopped being outright brutal and turned to be surgically vicious and found that working with people that he normally wouldn't associate with (Vincent and Marxx) would prove to be incredibly successful (Team Prozac). The rest is practically history.
But most important, to me at least, I wanted Shadow to come back an old man in wrestling terms (like somewhere between Golddust and the Great Muta). I wanted to explore how being gone for so long, not being in the best shape of his life in comparison to the rest of his peers who've never seemed to age or on the level as the younger guys, would evolve cynical mindsets and to be more of a passing force of nature. At this point, I'd say he's looking for a legacy he may have left or the chance to prove to his bitterness that he can still hang with the best of them.
At least that's what I see.
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Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2013 10:05 am
I feel like I have so much to say on this. But I can't say it without writing paragraphs upon paragraphs.
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Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2013 10:40 am
Disciple
My first GAIAN Character. The Dradnaught has gone through some changes since he debuted back in WWE:U. At first he was more of a fusion between Kane and Undertaker. However over the years he has morphed into a fusion between an Early none talking Kane and Andre The Giant.
When he started Sin, who was Gaia's resident Giant, was one he's way out the door, and so I saw this as an opportunity. With a body build similar to Kane or Taker, and with a dark persona that came with "Magical Powers", I knew I would be ripped and pigeonholed as a Taker or Kane rip off. Which brings me to the EPIC FEUD with Kelly King 2.0.
I had Disciple's masked removed, and tried to drop the dark gimmick. A basically "Repackaged" him. He was nearly a completely different character. I "Billed" him more as a Batista like figure, a massive man with intensity, and abnormal strength, and explosive speed. During that feud he had won his mask back, but was ended up banished from WWE:U Raw. However after a few months gone, he was again "Repackaged" as The Dark One. Through I knew coming back with the old version wouldn't work...
So I dropped the powers of the Darkside. EXCEPT for the whole lights going out thing. Then methodically added weight to my character, much like Big Show's or Mark Henry's body has changed over the years, slowly gaining mass. Keeping him in the 480 to 500 pound range. Making him a physical Giant on par with Andre. Like you hear in shoot interviews, about Andre. I built him up physically to be like. If Disciple wanted to change the outcome of the match, mid way through, physically you couldn't do much about it, cause he was a literal Giant and could do things normal wrestlers, let alone normal men could do. Now mind you, he has always been tall, just now he had the real weight to back up the Giant title.
With that added to his character, I knew some people would hate the fact that I had "Billed" him that way, but that was when serendipity struck. Not to long after I morphed Disciple into a physical Giant, I've noticed people going after Disciple's legs more and more. Now this was not planned or predetermined, I didn't ask anyone to target his legs, but it happened, and so I played off of it to make sure Disciple wasn't perceived as this unstoppable Giant. Now in every match, Disciple has to really sell his leg out. The years of people targeting it has made it vulnerable, and now when someone targets it, Disciple sells it, NOT like Cena and he's arm. NO, Disciple really sells it. It's gotten to the point that it is a common thing in Disciple matches.
However after WWE:U and the Twisted Flow had collapsed, I dropped Disciple for sometime. I didn't use him again until I was brought into WWE:E.
Now onto another aspect of the Disciple character, Nathanial Creed... The diabolical Uncle of Disciple. I introduced Nathanial sometime in mid-2008, sometime shortly after debuting in the E:E. I brought Nathanial in to mix things up. Much like when Bobby Heenan was brought in to manage Andre. Essentially he became Disciple's mouth piece. Literally, I haven't had Disciple say a word since 2008, before that, even still he hasn't said a word since he left WWE:U and the Flow. Nathanial Creed now plays a huge part in the Disciple character. Not only has his mouth piece but as his "Manager". Nathanial has talked and managed he's Nephew into quite a few matches, that and Disciple's physical dominance did help. This period we saw Disciple climb the ranks of the E:E, and eventually having a feud with another Legend, in Mike Landry. Working them two as Heenan/Andre pairing has probably been my favorite way to work them, however I wanted more from the duo, and tried to a go a Ministry route.
This is when the power of the Darkside re-emerged in the Disciple character, more so for Nathanial, but the Darkside powers aspect had returned. I had Nathanial able to convert followers and bestow upon them new powers, and a new identity, much like the Ministry. However that fell apart quickly, and i was forced to drop it, or so that how it seems right now, and I am going back to working Disciple, and Nathanial much like Heenan/Andre. Looking back I realized a Ministry program was not gonna work for Disciple and Nathanial. So about a month or two ago I decided to revert back to the Heenan/Andre dynamic, and simply have Nathanial convince Bookers that Disciple is the best and most dominate champion one could have.
Thankfully since he has morphed into this Demonic like Andre, people began to work with him like a Giant, RARELY does anyone attempt, let alone think about doing a move like a Bodyslam or Powerbomb on Disciple, cause physically he is way to big for most wrestlers to even try it. instead they target the leg like I said earlier, and this has worked out tremendously. Through "Billed" as an unstoppable monster, he does lose, especially when someone works the legs.
Having someone like Disciple around can bring creditability to anyone he works with, cause RARELY is a Disciple match a squash match. I like to think Disciple is the Physical embodiment of Andre. He can really put someone over in defeat or make them look to be a true underdog. Now when I say Physical Embodiment of Andre, I don't mean you guys look at him and his legacy as the end all be all of wrestling like Vince McMahon does for Andre. More like if you need a threat, or a David & Goliath like story that needs telling, or you just need an attraction, Disciple is your guy. He is a seasoned veteran, and one of the longest lasting characters in Gaia's Wrestling Community.
PHHEEWW... That was kinda long. sweatdrop
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Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2013 2:06 pm
Quote: has your original vision for your character stayed in tact, or have you changed it The gimmick of my character has been tweaked in each fed to be different, so that I don't get bored of being the same character everywhere! Quote: give us a little in sight about YOUR character and the story of the idea you had for them and move on to current if possible. Cartwright began life as a fan who finally decided to chase the dream and become a wrestler! Not the most amazing back story! blaugh Luckily I had you fine people to work with and shape the character in each fed to breath life into it! For me character change and development is a constant and necessary part of the game! It's got to the point with me that I get requested to play certain popular gimmicks that I've done elsewhere if I join a new fed, which is fine! Must have done something right with that character for the GM to want to see it return! xd
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Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2013 3:30 pm
Sandra was really the only one so far that has stayed what I expected her to be would prob get to where I wanted to be with Thangor if I continued to use him. so far D9 the Third is going where I expect hoping that continues.
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Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2013 5:36 pm
Jarel has morphed a lot from what I originally created. Jarel was very dark when I brought him in. He's an ex MMA fighter (who I created long before everyone turned sour on MMA fighters) and he came in with two of his siblings, Zarel his twin, and Janelle, his sister and manager, which is a result of me bringing two friends into rping with me. But he was very dark in the beginning. That's just the way I liked it. I did not give him supernatural powers. No lightning or fireballs. In the beginning, however, I did do the lights going out and seeming to appear in the ring thing. at the time it worked for him in the high profile, high emotion feuds he started off with.
From the start, Jarel had an issue with the Shawn Michaels character (keep in mind reals were played more often than not when i came in over a decade ago) and he also had an issue with Kane. When i brought him to Gaia, his brother turned on him after a while and for several years, he feuded with Zarel everywhere. What remained the same is Jarel has always been a face, always been big on honor and loyalty.
A big part of his legacy is his hell in a cell streak. I didn't start out intending to make such a long streak. It just became that because I so loved the original hell in a cell matches (******** you very much WWE with your annual ppv with this match with wrestlers who cannot capture the mystique of the match). And with each of his earlier feuds, this was his end for the feud. Hell in a cell was where Jarel went to put the final nail in the coffin of a feud.
I created Jarel with the idea of him being dominating, but for him not to really chase titles. I didn't originally want them (weird, i know). But my feeling is Jarel should be something of an attraction. I wanted his feuds to be more important. Eventually, those feuds translated into title shots and title wins.
Down the road, I added another brother, now called Drako, to expand the family. Drako feuded with both Zarel and Janelle a bit. He was created to be the entertainer, the show stealer, the HBK of the family. Then finally, I decided it was time to bring the family together a few years ago and since Jarel had done so much more than I'd intended as far as title wins, main event spots, and hall of fame inductions, I tried to move him back to be a guide to the family. I moved him back to being more of an attraction, I guess. Along the way, he stumbled into another title match or two and I kind of wanted him to be a bit of a test to whoever he's facing or feuding with. He went through a period of being part of DX, and the last few years I put a bit more of his dark side in his character again. Through the verbal exchanges with Chrono, I brought more of the mythos feeling into him, really playing on his nickname of Dragon more than I had in the past.
There is also the nickname of the godfather of hardcore that Snypa gave the character. Jarel was not intended as a hardcore specialist. It just happens to be an environment he's in due to being at the head of feds like EEW and taking his feuds up a few notches when they got serious, plus there's the streak. So it fits and I use it when necessary, but there's more to him than that.
So really the Jarel character has expanded and evolved beyond my original concept but I like where he's gone for the most part. I like his standing and I like being able to take him in so many directions.
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Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2013 10:36 pm
Actually, Jarel, that name was just something I pulled from my arse while typing out a promo in DCW.
Moving on, I've never really had much of a determined direction for Snypa Rifle, even when my time on Gaia was most dedicated to EEW. I've even tried a heel run with him, but I've come to realize that it is impossible for him to ever be such.
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Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 7:01 am
Damijin Spade Actually, Jarel, that name was just something I pulled from my arse while typing out a promo in DCW. Moving on, I've never really had much of a determined direction for Snypa Rifle, even when my time on Gaia was most dedicated to EEW. I've even tried a heel run with him, but I've come to realize that it is impossible for him to ever be such. valid point, but the name stuck, since you kept calling me that. too bad i can't really go heel or i'd have a ******** field day with that name.......actually, i still might. godfather of hardcore twisted
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Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 1:41 pm
Jarel Damone Damijin Spade Actually, Jarel, that name was just something I pulled from my arse while typing out a promo in DCW. Moving on, I've never really had much of a determined direction for Snypa Rifle, even when my time on Gaia was most dedicated to EEW. I've even tried a heel run with him, but I've come to realize that it is impossible for him to ever be such. valid point, but the name stuck, since you kept calling me that. too bad i can't really go heel or i'd have a ******** field day with that name.......actually, i still might. godfather of hardcore twisted Undertaker turned heel a few times... Just saying
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Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 2:32 pm
Yukari Clepsydra Jarel Damone Damijin Spade Actually, Jarel, that name was just something I pulled from my arse while typing out a promo in DCW. Moving on, I've never really had much of a determined direction for Snypa Rifle, even when my time on Gaia was most dedicated to EEW. I've even tried a heel run with him, but I've come to realize that it is impossible for him to ever be such. valid point, but the name stuck, since you kept calling me that. too bad i can't really go heel or i'd have a ******** field day with that name.......actually, i still might. godfather of hardcore twisted Undertaker turned heel a few times... Just saying i'm aware of this, just as i'm aware in the past three years i've had no less than three chances to turn jarel heel. just doesn't feel right to turn him. i would turn the Drako character heel before I'd turn jarel. i just envision him as a face the same way your chrono character is always a heel to you.
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Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 2:57 pm
I prefer to think of Chrono as honest, it's good or bad. He knows he's a bad person, but at the same time considering what he says is true, that's a redeeming quality.
It's all in the way you present it
For example
'You're husky' - face
'You're a fat a**' - heel
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Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 3:18 pm
.....by your standards i'm pretty heel then. Jarel's more likely to use the second method than the first. probably because I channel myself into my characters. Ever have those moments in a promo where your character really says things exactly the way you would? Happens to me quite a bit, especially lately.
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