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 Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2013 10:17 pm
In the last days there´s been a new program (similar in both function and exploits used) to instacheck that if it is not solved might kill the online battling as we know it.
Sorry about not elaborating it, but I believe the link will clear that up for everyone.Pokemon Battle Analyser
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Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2013 11:57 pm
Fate Lynx In the last days there´s been a new program (similar in both function and exploits used) to instacheck that if it is not solved might kill the online battling as we know it.
Sorry about not elaborating it, but I believe the link will clear that up for everyone.Pokemon Battle Analyser
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Chaotic Houndoom Vice Captain
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Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2013 8:33 pm
I've heard quite a few mixed thoughts on this. Though I did stumbled onto this discussion about the program. How creditable the source is, I haven't a clue. But just for the sake of continuing this discussion.Jaynohva After searching and searching, I was able to finally download a functioning battle analyzer program last night. Actually to be more precise, it was handed down to me after begging a random person over the internet since I couldn't find a legitimate download link. >.> First off, I do not know if this is the original program that was previously posted in other websites but I just decided to work with it since I was growing impatient. Also, I assure you, I won't be using this program. I just want to experiment with it to see for myself. GOOD NEWS: Well, you can't really see what your opponent will choose as his move nor does it help you predict what the best move to make is. It's not user friendly and you need at least an above average knowledge in programming to actually get the program to work otherwise you or your opponent will disconnect numerous times. And yes, a patch maybe able to fix this unlike other issues. BAD NEWS: At the hands of the wrong person, this app WILL destroy competitive battling. A gifted programmer could easily just upgrade the program to accommodate whatever patch nintendo releases. This app (in my case) allowed me to see the opponent's (which was myself btw,) pokemon, stats, nature, abilities, items, moves, everything! For a skilled battler, that information is more than enough to guarantee a win BUT that's not the thing I am concerned about. I was able to modify the program and use moves (as long as the move can be learned by the pokemon) which my pokemon didn't have to counter my opponent. At that point, I stopped working on the program. A tool like that should never exist however if a mediocre such as myself was able to do that, I wouldn't be surprised what the 'pros' were able to do with it. Again, I sent a complaint to GF/nintendo with pictures and proofs. It might not be much but it's a step forward no matter how small.
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Posted: Sat Nov 30, 2013 4:27 am
The amount of people who can actually use this shouldnt be that major though right? Like said, you have to have above average amount of knowledge to use it.
On top of that, I could be wrong but I can't imagine a lot of people using it competitively. For long at very least. It just takes the fun out of things. Why even play if you know you can win by an unfair advantage? If anything I would assume the cheaters would get bored and eventually quit.
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Posted: Sat Nov 30, 2013 11:31 am
Flame_Haze The amount of people who can actually use this shouldnt be that major though right? Like said, you have to have above average amount of knowledge to use it. On top of that, I could be wrong but I can't imagine a lot of people using it competitively. For long at very least. It just takes the fun out of things. Why even play if you know you can win by an unfair advantage? If anything I would assume the cheaters would get bored and eventually quit.
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Posted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 2:18 pm
Kyrenx Flame_Haze The amount of people who can actually use this shouldnt be that major though right? Like said, you have to have above average amount of knowledge to use it. On top of that, I could be wrong but I can't imagine a lot of people using it competitively. For long at very least. It just takes the fun out of things. Why even play if you know you can win by an unfair advantage? If anything I would assume the cheaters would get bored and eventually quit. I think you meant bane on the competitive scene? A boon means that it is good or helpful
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Posted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 2:29 pm
Hunter of the dusk Kyrenx Flame_Haze The amount of people who can actually use this shouldnt be that major though right? Like said, you have to have above average amount of knowledge to use it. On top of that, I could be wrong but I can't imagine a lot of people using it competitively. For long at very least. It just takes the fun out of things. Why even play if you know you can win by an unfair advantage? If anything I would assume the cheaters would get bored and eventually quit. I think you meant bane on the competitive scene? A boon means that it is good or helpful
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Posted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 3:54 pm
Fate Lynx Hunter of the dusk I think you meant bane on the competitive scene? A boon means that it is good or helpful
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Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2013 4:28 pm
Changing moves in-battle is stupidly broken. So many Pokemon are countered once your opponent knows your set. Being able to have all moves at your disposal is absolutely monstrous. Moreso than Ubers in OU.
Leads me to my next point. Knowing your opponent's set is too. Bulky Gyara? You now know they are limited to Waterfall/Bounce coverage (last gen set) as opposed to Waterfall/EQ/Ice Fang coverage and can play appropriately. Specs Mence? Don't bother switching in your usual counter, go straight to Blissey. See that Tyraniboah running a Quiet nature? Your Aegislash outspeeds it. That Celebi is running HP Fire? Don't bother switching in your Scizor.
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Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2013 5:03 pm
As Kyren mention on the validity on this hack, I a found a forum that is making a counter program to send false data to the opponent using said program. Not sure when it will be released and how effective it will be but hey, there is some hope. WiFi Anti-cheat SoftwareThe website needs help with adding believable competitive to their google spread sheet if anyone is interested in helping.
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Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 4:09 pm
X Dark Serge X In the last days there´s been a new program (similar in both function and exploits used) to instacheck that if it is not solved might kill the online battling as we know it.
Sorry about not elaborating it, but I believe the link will clear that up for everyone.Pokemon Battle Analyser
Thats one of many reason why I don't do online battles, because people find whys to cheat and suck the fun out of the game. Call me old fashion but that's why I prefer link battles with either a link cable or the wireless adapter that came with fire red and leaf green.
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Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 4:42 pm
Later Dink X Dark Serge X In the last days there´s been a new program (similar in both function and exploits used) to instacheck that if it is not solved might kill the online battling as we know it.
Sorry about not elaborating it, but I believe the link will clear that up for everyone.Pokemon Battle Analyser Thats one of many reason why I don't do online battles, because people find whys to cheat and suck the fun out of the game. Call me old fashion but that's why I prefer link battles with either a link cable or the wireless adapter that came with fire red and leaf green.
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Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 8:52 pm
Quote: Well, the most recent patch more or less put an end to the Battle Analyzer for the time being, so battles are as clean as they were prior. And even in the old days of FireRed/LeafGreen, you had people adding codes into a game genie (or whatever other device) to cheat. You have no idea how many hacked Mewtwos and Mews I encountered at a local tournament back in Red/Blue/Yellow days. Really, the only way to have fair battles is to either play Pokemon Showdown or have a group of friends you can trust. pirate
Glade to see Game Freak took notice to the issues and Fixed it, but even then people will always find ways to cheat.
My Friends and I back in Middle and High school would have Pokemon battles during lunch, we all made a agreement not to cheat at Pokemon in any way. We still hold that agreement to this day.
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Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 9:42 pm
I really wish people would just play fair... I know cheating gives you advantages but it takes out all the fun you get by just simply playing the game. If people don't like the game, then ok, they don't have to play it. But don't use cheats and stuff in it.
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